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WoodyO
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I cut n' pasted it from a website ran by an ex-mormon. That's no different than any off the useless crap you posted either. Just 2 assholes with opposing opinions.
Mitt Romney to select Paul Ryan as running mate
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I cut n' pasted it from a website ran by an ex-mormon. That's no different than any off the useless crap you posted either. Just 2 assholes with opposing opinions.
Look at the defecit increase made by the Obama Administration. That's called acceleration in the wrong direction at its finest. You think they will change their ways the second term? Hahaha, no. We need someone different.
Where was Obama campaigning about the middle class 2 years ago trying to make things better? What about gay rights? Oh shit, it's election season, l better start spouting some bullshit to middle class people and gays to hold my position in office a second term by earning some votes.
He's playing a game with th epublic when it comes to votes, not actually earning them by making stuff better. He's making it worse.
I can't fully say Romney is going to make things turn around in a huge way, but I KNOW that I have zero trust or confidence in Obama doing so. Atleast give us a chance by electing someone else.
I didn't post an opinon at all. Neither were those things you posted an "opinion". It's either the truth or a lie. I posted what the church actually teaches wiht explanations, and dispelled complete untruths. You posted facts, many of which were blatant lies. I know what the church teaches much better than most mormons do (not to sound cocky, but I do.), and definitely better than someone who is not mormon.
Much of the stuff you posted was completely fabricated to make mormons seem extra crazy, and/or wihtout providing and context or logic behind it. It was very misleading.
Look, I'm not really interested in going off on some huge debate about it. I'm just not going to have someone post lies about something, and then degrade the integrity of a people out of your ignorance by claiming it to be true when you don't really know better. That's bullshit bro.
WoodyO
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What makes you an expert? Go ahead and address these couple little bit's of "news" I borrowed from the same web site.
July 2012 A recently published in Free Inquiry estimates that the Mormon Church donates only about 0.7 percent of its annual income to charity; the United Methodist Church gives about 29 percent.
July 2012 Mormon Church claims 4 times as many members in Brazil than the 2010 Brazilian census data. Both the JW's and Seventh Day Adventist's membership claims are consistent with census data. This is another example of inflated Mormon membership statistics.
Aug. 2012 update. The Mormon Church's City Creek Center shopping mall and condo development is at 3 billion dollars (or more) per Salt Lake Chamber's Can-Do Coalition. The entire redevelopment of downtown SLC is: Five Billion Dollars An organization that spends more on real estate to develop malls, condos and resorts ($500 million in Hawaii alone) than on helping the poor is, by any definition, a corporation, not a religion. The published figures range from $1.5 billion for the mall to $3 billion. $5 billion is for the total development downtown. The Mormon church does not open its books. We have published figures from KSL and Deseret News - both Mormon owned. Thomas S. Monson, the Mormon prophet at the opening cheered, �One, two, three�let�s go shopping!� He has rarely spoken in public since.
Feb 2012 The Mormon Church has become even more intrusive by requiring members to wear their sacred long underwear [garments] even while doing yard work.
Jan 2012 The Mormon Church's humanitarian aid now amounts to $6.73 per member per year - from an official Mormon publication.
Feb. 2011 Multi-level marketing companies are second only to tourism in bringing in revenue to Utah.
mistaballoonhands
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The good thing about giving a cat medicine is that if more of it ends up on its face, it will just lick it up when your done anyway.
What makes me an expert?
Well, compared to you, I for one am actually an active mormon, served 2 years strictly to proselytizing and studying the bible and book of mormon and teachings of the church. I'm an ordained elder of the church, and I'm a Doctrinal Studies teacher. On the side, I have spent tons of hours going through anti-mormon claims over the last 6 years and learning many things both historically and theologically are not taught in depth in regular sunday school if at all.
You'd be hardpressed to say something that I don't know about, even the lies people intentionally spread.
First point, the church's donations outside of its members is not the main focus. The hundreds of millions of dollars annually donated through fast offerings go towards helping members who are struggling, as well as non member families within the boundaries of the area of the funds donated. That is purely private church record and is not public. Also, tithing donations are used to build houses of worship and other facilities used for religious purposes.
The church holds record of all baptised living members, even if they are inactive. Someone may claim to no longer be a member in a census survey, but unless they formally request that their records be removed from the church, they are considered a member and are counted as such. This would probably be a similar finding in every census taken anywhere in the world. There's nothing deceptive about it. In my last assigned area in Chile on my mission, there were 137 members on file. We had between 20 and 30 members attend regularly.
The LDS Church does indeed have a corporate business side, but it is absolutely and completely separate from the religious aspect. Deseret News, Deseret Book, Bonoville Communications, KSL news 5 (NBC) are all owned by the business side of the church. Not a single penny of tithing or other member donations were used to fund the City Creek shopping center. Monson rarely speaks in public anyways, so that is some snake-in-the-grass implication to even say that.
There has always been a standard of the appropriate wearing of the garment. You are to wear it all times that are rational to do so. Wearing what is in basic form a t shirt and boxer shorts under your clothes while mowing the lawn or planting flowers is hardly a hard thing to ask. How ridiculous to insinuate that this is somehow intrusive. Gimme a freaking break. Can you use your own brain?
The church is very well recognized for its humanitarian aid efforts, preparedness and prompt response to natural disasters. If you didn't know this, now you do. They were nearly first on scene for Katrina, Haiti earthquake, and the various tsunamis in asia. If you want to knock them for that, you should also spit on Mother Theresa's grave for all she did for people. That number amounts to $1 Billion in the last decade. Scoff at a $1 Billion dollar effort over the last decade all you want, $1 Billion is admirable any way you want to crack it.
They are common here, sure. So what?
Anything else?
Spare me the annoyance. Let's just say that not everything about somebody that is purported to be troublesome is even true, and if it is, do you have the proper context to get a basic understanding of an ideology before you label off millions of people as crazy and leave it at that without truly knowing much about it and just assume that a headline with a negative connotation tells the whole story and isn't misleading and run-on sentence lol. Sure, there are some bat crazy mormon people, and athiests and catholics, other christians, jews, muslims, etc.etc.
Woody, you my ngr. Peace brother.
