Military bro's, I need some advice

[Shoes82]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

 

[pdaddy]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

Why don't you volunteer at your local soup kitchen or play bingo w/ the elderly at a nursing home? There are many other ways to feel rewarded than killing.

 

[Bruce]

since he is no longer hear, i will speak for my friend whom served. he will tell you that he was deployed his second time against his will and he had to drop out of college. i really think he was let down by our country and felt that he was treated unfairly. i am in no way whatsoever disrespecting our soldiers, just giving one perspective, i have nothing but love for our troops regardless of my political views, they fight so i can sleep at night its that simple.

 

[Hunter7]

You shouldnt make a decision on a career based on someone else, you should do it because you want to do it, otherwise theres a good chance you'll want out having to put up with all the shit you get. Besides, nowadays if you join up more or likely u WILL see war, and if u ask me, going to another country dodging bullets and suicide bombers, fighting and killing for some little worm sittin in his chair gibberin shit on the tv to the public doesnt quite sound like job satisfaction

 

[Bruce]

i agree bro help out a kid who has no parents, you can help in a lot of ways. going off to war because you want to help seems weird to me.

 

[Beachboy6294]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

Bro let me tell you it was the best thing I ever could have done in my life because I was heading down the wrong path! All I did was fight all the damn time for no reason at times and I had no discipline or future! I have always Loved my Country and when I got the chance I went in at 17 years old and it straightened me up quick! I didn't have any doubts though I wanted it and that is what you have to find in your heart. Then I decided if I was going in I wanted to be right in the shit so I went Airborne, Air Assault, & Ranger and there was many times I wanted to quit or didn't think I could make it another second and that's when my heart and desire came in to play. I was going to go Special Forces and then broke my leg really bad on a night jump after Desert Storm so I ended up getting out after 8 years. You can't believe everything you see on the news also because I have many Bro's in both conflicts that say they don't show any of the good that is happening over there. No matter what you always support our troops because they are just following orders and defending this Country we live in. I don't agree with allot of Pres. Bush's thinking but at least he don't take any crap!

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Bro let me tell you it was the best thing I ever could have done in my life because I was heading down the wrong path! All I did was fight all the damn time for no reason at times and I had no discipline or future! I have always Loved my Country and when I got the chance I went in at 17 years old and it straightened me up quick! I didn't have any doubts though I wanted it and that is what you have to find in your heart. Then I decided if I was going in I wanted to be right in the shit so I went Airborne, Air Assault, & Ranger and there was many times I wanted to quit or didn't think I could make it another second and that's when my heart and desire came in to play. I was going to go Special Forces and then broke my leg really bad on a night jump after Desert Storm so I ended up getting out after 8 years. You can't believe everything you see on the news also because I have many Bro's in both conflicts that say they don't show any of the good that is happening over there. No matter what you always support our troops because they are just following orders and defending this Country we live in. I don't agree with allot of Pres. Bush's thinking but at least he don't take any crap!

mmk now you can take down your military attachments, people post pics of themselves not parachutes and clouds

 

[Beachboy6294]

mmk now you can take down your military attachments, people post pics of themselves not parachutes and clouds

Whatever Bro......I'll post what I want......You have a problem with that?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Whatever Bro......I'll post what I want......You have a problem with that?

what, you wanna step up foo??? LOL, LMFAO at Beach Baby, yea ur pictures are gay....unless you like that, there is a problem

 

[Beachboy6294]

what, you wanna step up foo??? LOL, LMFAO at Beach Baby, yea ur pictures are gay....unless you like that, there is a problem

Ok Let me get this straight my pictures are gay because I served my Country and I'm proud of it? I've got your Beach baby also Bro I don't ever back down to anyone so if you have a problem it's really not hard to find out where I live cause I'll tell ya! I thought you was cool from reading most of your post but maybe I was wrong!

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Ok Let me get this straight my pictures are gay because I served my Country and I'm proud of it? I've got your Beach baby also Bro I don't ever back down to anyone so if you have a problem it's really not hard to find out where I live cause I'll tell ya! I thought you was cool from reading most of your post but maybe I was wrong!

people see the paper clip next to threads and think someone has posted a pic....only not a pic of some badges and military stuff...congrats on serving, im not downing you for that...its just annoying to have it there, put it in your gallery bro!

 

[Bruce]

i agree bro it says attached thumbnails it seems like you got pics up. put em in the gallery mayne thats what its for

 

[Beachboy6294]

people see the paper clip next to threads and think someone has posted a pic....only not a pic of some badges and military stuff...congrats on serving, im not downing you for that...its just annoying to have it there, put it in your gallery bro!

Man that is all you had to say and not call my Military Patch a Boy Scout Patch! As I have said and you can see from my post that I am new and didn't know that it did that!

 

[Bruce]

its all good bro people here joke around.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Man that is all you had to say and not call my Military Patch a Boy Scout Patch! As I have said and you can see from my post that I am new and didn't know that it did that!

all good bro, all love from dbbt and 410

 

[Beachboy6294]

its all good bro people here joke around.

Like I said in the first post of why I went in the Military at 17 was because I was a bad tempered MF that was always looking for a fight. Which I look back at now and say yo myself what a jerk I was for some of the things I've done to people. Then I went in the Army and it was my job to kill so my temper has got better in time but sometimes things make me snap! I really didn't even see the LOL til after and when he said that about that Patch that I would die for I just lost it. I do understand now about putting the pics up here! Thanks....

 

[hawaii50]

i personally think all men that live in the united states, should be REQUIRED to join the military for an amount of time. It really is a privelage to live here, let alone be born here. People just don't realize the luxuries we have came @ a price.

The only reason i'm not in the armed forces was they wouldn't let me because of my asthma.. but i still went and tried, and damn near died of an asthma attack during the running portion... if i ever outgrow my asthma i'm gonna go back and pass

 

[danaf1]

i personally think all men that live in the united states, should be REQUIRED to join the military for an amount of time. It really is a privelage to live here, let alone be born here. People just don't realize the luxuries we have came @ a price.

The only reason i'm not in the armed forces was they wouldn't let me because of my asthma.. but i still went and tried, and damn near died of an asthma attack during the running portion... if i ever outgrow my asthma i'm gonna go back and pass

I see what you're saying, it would do everyone good, but the entire volunteer force works too well. Also, if everyone HAD to join it would get into constitutional issues.

Sorry to hear you got turned down, good luck in the future.

 

[danaf1]

I have no regrets about joining. I learned a lot, developed as a person in ways I could not have in the civilian world, became far more confident, and developed an excellent work ethic. I would like to tell you to go for it but you must decide if you really want to do it. A lot of people join and regret it as soon as they arrive for basic training. I've seen people fake seizures during basic so they can get medically discharged. If you want it, go for it. I am sure you will be glad you did when your time is up. I enlisted when I was 19 and now at 22, I have already lived in Germany for two years and seen places most people will only see pics of. It's a great opportunity to travel, but remember, that travel could be to a very sandy place. Think of the worst case scenario that could occur if you join, then decide if joining is worth that risk.

What branch are you thinking of joining?

 

[chefbone]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

Dude, I'm going into the Army this November. I'm enlisting either as Ranger or 18x(SPecial Forces Recruit). I'm 28 years old, 4 years college, I have worked in two of the greatest restaurants in our country(look it up) and am dropping everything I know to defend ours. I see nothing wrong with you doing this. I commend you.

I no longer work so I can develop into a machine before I even step foot into boot camp. My friends think I'm nuts. My family thinks I'm nuts. Am I nuts? Fuck yeah I am. I'm tired of seein' good bros dying over there that have kids and old ladies back in the states. I WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SHIT. Hit me up secure e-mail at [email protected]

 

[michoncameoa]

ok ive got 7 yrs in and came in at 24 i love the military and everything it gives me a steady paycheck a secure home and enviorment for my family great schools and a op to succede and move ahead im getting ready for my 3rd deployment enough is enough . ive listened to a commander getting ready to send his soilders to war in iraq and told them when there felling bad rember the men we lost on 9/11 .. hello different war. i had a lady tell me sadam should have thought of that before he flew his planes into our buildings ???? wtf a lil about my background i grew up with many afghan refugges most of my freinds are muslim and they all support me the man . there is different fellings on the war . my father is mexican my grandfather is chinese my wife is japanese . racism is not tollerated in the army right ? if i say the word nigger ill go to jail lose rank and be kicked out (not part of my vocabulary)but generals and high brass routinly use derogatory words for muslims there is songs sung about burning mosques and killing muslims while they pray .this is turned into a race war or holy war .wich is bullshit the islamic religeon has been demonized since the begging there has been no fair representation .is the kkk a rep for white cristins no so why is osama being potryed as such .think about what were doing there .support your troops and rangers lead the way......

 

[chefbone]

support your troops and rangers lead the way......

Hell yeah...Rangers bitches

 

[LITTLEMAGS]

I spent 5 years Air Force...would go back in a heartbeat. I had a great time, got my education, traveled for free. Couldn't say anything bad about my experience. Plus i was single and always had a great time. It felt like I spent 5 years in summer camp. BUT....a couple of my friend who went Marines....had a TOTALLY different view. It all depends on what you make of it.

 

[chefbone]

I spent 5 years Air Force...would go back in a heartbeat. I had a great time, got my education, traveled for free. Couldn't say anything bad about my experience. Plus i was single and always had a great time. It felt like I spent 5 years in summer camp. BUT....a couple of my friend who went Marines....had a TOTALLY different view. It all depends on what you make of it.

You have given out too much Karma in the last 24 hours, try again later.

Sorry dude!!!

 

[Peshmerga]

I served 20 years in the Army. There are times when you hate it and times when you love it. You will make friends that you will have for the rest of your life. You will do things and go places that most guys could never imagine. You will also put your life at risk. It's really not about who the President is; I served under Carter, Reagan, Bush and Clinton. It's not about the political policies. It's about the fact that you as an American decide to go and sacrifice and serve just like our fathers and grandfathers did. I personally don't want to hear people say shit if they haven't served. But it isn't going to college or getting a bonus or anything like that. It is about serving your country, period. You have to decide if you are willing to give up part of your life, or your whole life, for your country and not expect anything else in return. Take the example of Pat Tillman. Or, chose not to serve and go about your daily life while other men do it for you.

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

 

[Beachboy6294]

I served 20 years in the Army. There are times when you hate it and times when you love it. You will make friends that you will have for the rest of your life. You will do things and go places that most guys could never imagine. You will also put your life at risk. It's really not about who the President is; I served under Carter, Reagan, Bush and Clinton. It's not about the political policies. It's about the fact that you as an American decide to go and sacrifice and serve just like our fathers and grandfathers did. I personally don't want to hear people say shit if they haven't served. But it isn't going to college or getting a bonus or anything like that. It is about serving your country, period. You have to decide if you are willing to give up part of your life, or your whole life, for your country and not expect anything else in return. Take the example of Pat Tillman. Or, chose not to serve and go about your daily life while other men do it for you.

I couldn't have said it any better..Whoa!!!!! Yo Bro when I first saw your picture of Pat Tillman on here it gave me chills! He left millions of dollars to serve his country, our country USA! Rangers Lead the Way...Always!!!

 

[jdynasty]

I like Pat Tillman, but he isnt the first athlete to go to war, what makes his sacrifice more noble is that todays athletes are more selfish

 

[Beachboy6294]

I like Pat Tillman, but he isnt the first athlete to go to war, what makes his sacrifice more noble is that todays athletes are more selfish

Yes your right but not many Pro athlete went Special Forces of any type that I know of. Also his sacrifice isn't anymore than any Man that leave his wife,kids, family, & dog to go fight for his Country, but I still Love him! Man I missed my Dog!!!!

 

[natty]

i personally think all men that live in the united states, should be REQUIRED to join the military for an amount of time. It really is a privelage to live here, let alone be born here. People just don't realize the luxuries we have came @ a price.

The only reason i'm not in the armed forces was they wouldn't let me because of my asthma.. but i still went and tried, and damn near died of an asthma attack during the running portion... if i ever outgrow my asthma i'm gonna go back and pass

You say should be REQUIRED and you didn't even serve I know you had asthma, but I had issues to medical and legal and got in. It just doesn't sound right to me for somebody to say required and not put in one day. I was infantry at the 101st airborne division.

 

[natty]

I like Pat Tillman, but he isnt the first athlete to go to war, what makes his sacrifice more noble is that todays athletes are more selfish

What other modern day athlete with a muti-million contract and college degree joined the Army as infantry then later became a ranger. Uh nobody.

 

[Beachboy6294]

You say should be REQUIRED and you didn't even serve I know you had asthma, but I had issues to medical and legal and got in. It just doesn't sound right to me for somebody to say required and not put in one day. I was infantry at the 101st airborne division.

Yo Natty I hear you on that but the Army changes their rules all the time. When I went in it actually got me out of legal trouble and probation. Yet I watched a few people get kicked out for asthma in Basic. Then about 4 years in I watched the Army trying to get rid of people letting them out early and stuff & if you had any problems you it was much harder to get in. Now once again they will work wonders to get you in because they need the Boots on the ground! I even was contacted and I had to leave the Army after a open compound leg fracture during a night jump. 101st....Been to your area for Air Assault School. I was 82nd Airborne....

 

[cdcook]

I was in the Army for 3 years with 1 year in Vietnam in an Armored Unit.I'm proud to have served and would do it again.No one thanked us for being in 'Nam but thank God people are appreciative for the soldiers coming home from Iraq.We need to show them all the support we can.

 

[natty]

Dude, I'm going into the Army this November. I'm enlisting either as Ranger or 18x(SPecial Forces Recruit). I'm 28 years old, 4 years college, I have worked in two of the greatest restaurants in our country(look it up) and am dropping everything I know to defend ours. I see nothing wrong with you doing this. I commend you.

I no longer work so I can develop into a machine before I even step foot into boot camp. My friends think I'm nuts. My family thinks I'm nuts. Am I nuts? Fuck yeah I am. I'm tired of seein' good bros dying over there that have kids and old ladies back in the states. I WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SHIT. Hit me up secure e-mail at [email protected]

What can you do? There is just as many soldiers dying from accidents in the military as there are from Iraqi's killing them. But if you want to have no life, have low pay and take a chance of dying for Bush's secret agendas go ahead. Also even if your one hard ass mofo you still probably won't make it as a ranger or SF. I've known many of both and to have a chance it needs to be the passion of your life to even have a chance.

 

[Beachboy6294]

I was in the Army for 3 years with 1 year in Vietnam in an Armored Unit.I'm proud to have served and would do it again.No one thanked us for being in 'Nam but thank God people are appreciative for the soldiers coming home from Iraq.We need to show them all the support we can.

Yo Bro I Thank You!!!! Vietnam from everything I heard was a Hellhole and I have much respect for ya!

 

[chefbone]

What can you do? There is just as many soldiers dying from accidents in the military as there are from Iraqi's killing them. But if you want to have no life, have low pay and take a chance of dying for Bush's secret agendas go ahead. Also even if your one hard ass mofo you still probably won't make it as a ranger or SF. I've known many of both and to have a chance it needs to be the passion of your life to even have a chance.

Won't make it? Bad ass mofo???? Do you think I'm doing this on a whim??? C'mon broham. I'm 28, I've thought about it long enough. I'll send you a letter!!

 

[bigmann245]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

first of all i applaud you for even thinking of going in the military during these times. i myself just got out on disability from 12 years a Naval service. it is a huge decision and do not go at it alone. i recommend that the majority of young men need military training. i for one was headed nowhere and now i have a beautiful family and wonderful memories. yes i would do it all over again. it gave me the discipline i needed to succeed in life. my friends back home are still bums, hanging out on the street corner smokin weed doing absolutely nothing with their lives. if you are going to really go about joining please, i urge you to contact me and i will help you all the way through the process. the recruiters will lie to you. they are there to only sell the branch of service they represent and not a specific job. they will put you in a job that they want you to do, or they need to fill. pick something you can do after the military. a couple of friends of mine are parachute riggers in the navy. what type of job will they have when they get out? nothing.... so pick your job wisely. do not let them make you sign a paper that guarantee's nothing. they will try and tell you to go in without a specific job, be a deck-hand, and then you can see what job you want to do. DO NOT DO THAT!!!!!!!!! i beg you please. contact me if you are seriously concidering this. that goes for anyone. contact me ASAP and i will walk you through the process and not let you get screwed.

 

[Beachboy6294]

What can you do? There is just as many soldiers dying from accidents in the military as there are from Iraqi's killing them. But if you want to have no life, have low pay and take a chance of dying for Bush's secret agendas go ahead. Also even if your one hard ass mofo you still probably won't make it as a ranger or SF. I've known many of both and to have a chance it needs to be the passion of your life to even have a chance.

Damn come on Bro....I make more money in 2 months than I made a year in the Army easy but I was young and it was a stepping stone. Yes the first War over there we lost more soldiers to friendly fire and accidents but it happens! He sounds like he is getting his shit right towards going to RIP and if he can get through that then Ranger School but he had better be in the best physical and Mental shape ever!!! You better want it more than anything else in the World! Now SF is a whole different story my whole family is SF and it is the longest and hardest shit I've ever dreamed of so only the best get there and then graduate! I was going to give it my best shot and took the pre-physical to go to Q school and they test every damn thing to make sure you can handle the Hell your going to go through! Then like I said an open compound & staph infection from a night jump and VA Hospital stopped me. Keep training stay lean and run Forest run. Get a backpack and feel it with at least 75lbs and start walking as fast as possible for 10-15 miles a day without stopping.

 

[Beachboy6294]

first of all i applaud you for even thinking of going in the military during these times. i myself just got out on disability from 12 years a Naval service. it is a huge decision and do not go at it alone. i recommend that the majority of young men need military training. i for one was headed nowhere and now i have a beautiful family and wonderful memories. yes i would do it all over again. it gave me the discipline i needed to succeed in life. my friends back home are still bums, hanging out on the street corner smokin weed doing absolutely nothing with their lives. if you are going to really go about joining please, i urge you to contact me and i will help you all the way through the process. the recruiters will lie to you. they are there to only sell the branch of service they represent and not a specific job. they will put you in a job that they want you to do, or they need to fill. pick something you can do after the military. a couple of friends of mine are parachute riggers in the navy. what type of job will they have when they get out? nothing.... so pick your job wisely. do not let them make you sign a paper that guarantee's nothing. they will try and tell you to go in without a specific job, be a deck-hand, and then you can see what job you want to do. DO NOT DO THAT!!!!!!!!! i beg you please. contact me if you are seriously concidering this. that goes for anyone. contact me ASAP and i will walk you through the process and not let you get screwed.

You are so right about all that whenever I have anyone I know thinking about going in I go with them to the recruiters which they will don't like but you have to know what the hell your getting in your contract. They will lie their butts off to you and say "just sign here and we'll get you that airborne school, ranger school, SF slot later"! Yea right!!! If you want to make some money when you get out pick something you can use! You sound set on Rangers or SF so they will most likely try to get you to go Infantry. I myself went Commo and was able to get Airborne in my contract & got lucky that while at Ft. Benning they were looking for Commo Soldiers at Airborne School. When I went in you couldn't get SF in your contract but that has changed now also. Also when you go to the Mep station they also try to change your contract at times so watch them and if they do tell them you want except it and leave!!! They'll get you what you want if not then soon and they'll get in touch with you! Good luck.

 

[[email protected]]

been in for 7.5 years and am still active.Am a Gas Turbine Mechanic and volunteer Search and Rescue swimmer.My advice to you is make sure you know what your getting into.Ask questions from people in Branch you want to join in and rate specific questions,like what your day to day life will be in a certain field,advancment oppertunitys ect...Take the ASVAB and keep your scores then go to Army,Navy whatever branch your intrested in....I know Navy is www.staynavy.com you can put in your asvab scores and see jobs you qualify for...Then research the ones that sound good to you....My only regret is I didnt know enough before i joined.....I would have Never joined as a Gas Turbine mechanic if I knew what they really did day to day prior to joining.

 

[natty]

Won't make it? Bad ass mofo???? Do you think I'm doing this on a whim??? C'mon broham. I'm 28, I've thought about it long enough. I'll send you a letter!!

I don't know anything about you, but do you understand what I mean about what can you do? Why risk dying, shit Pat Tillman was killed by other Americans the military finally confirms now. If you were to die like this would you feel like you did something? The military has some many accidental deaths from war, training, PT you just don't hear about it. Going back to the Ranger SF thing I would try to talk to a few If I was you. You know how many people get injured badly in Ranger school. They say that school takes years off your life from getting no sleep for months. Here is one training challenge to work on to prepare, do as many pushups you can do straight then stay in the down part of the push up position for 30 minutes, you might do this for 1 hour staright in RIP. There will be alot harder shit then this once you get to RIP school (pre ranger).

 

[Beachboy6294]

What can you do? There is just as many soldiers dying from accidents in the military as there are from Iraqi's killing them. But if you want to have no life, have low pay and take a chance of dying for Bush's secret agendas go ahead. Also even if your one hard ass mofo you still probably won't make it as a ranger or SF. I've known many of both and to have a chance it needs to be the passion of your life to even have a chance.

I almost forgot Bro, What do you mean no life? I had some of the best times of my life while in the Army and I got friends that I served with that I will die for! Man you never got to spend a few years in Europe tearing it up and all them fine girls? One weekend hit the beach in Spain, then Italy, go clubbing in Germany and to the nude lakes, & then Amsterdam!!! Yea sometimes it sucks and you don't feel like you have a life but even some of those times I look back and laugh and some stupid shit somebody said or did!

 

[chefbone]

I don't know anything about you, but do you understand what I mean about what can you do? Why risk dying, shit Pat Tillman was killed by other Americans the military finally confirms now. If you were to die like this would you feel like you did something? The military has some many accidental deaths from war, training, PT you just don't hear about it. Going back to the Ranger SF thing I would try to talk to a few If I was you. You know how many people get injured badly in Ranger school. They say that school takes years off your life from getting no sleep for months. Here is one training challenge to work on to prepare, do as many pushups you can do straight then stay in the down part of the push up position for 30 minutes, you might do this for 1 hour staright in RIP. There will be alot harder shit then this once you get to RIP school (pre ranger).

If I were to die like that, I wouldn't know because I'd be dead. I appreciate your comments, though!! I know what I'm getting into, I will do my best and nothing fucking scares me!!!

 

[natty]

Also put some uncomfortable ass boots on to get those feet ready.

 

[natty]

Good luck.

 

[pdaddy]

I would rather gouge my eyes out with a spoon before serving under our jack-ass president. This however is NOT a political forum so I will leave my opinion at that. What the hell does this have to do with steroids???

 

[needtogetaas]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

I loved it.do it.

 

[ricorico]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Peshmerga]

I was in the Army for 3 years with 1 year in Vietnam in an Armored Unit.I'm proud to have served and would do it again.No one thanked us for being in 'Nam but thank God people are appreciative for the soldiers coming home from Iraq.We need to show them all the support we can.

I was a child and teenager during Vietnam, but I remember those times and the treatment of returning soldiers and servicemen. I grew up in a military town and a lot of my friends had fathers serving in Vietnam and we always gave them a big welcome home. Still, our country should be ashamed of that. I was in the Gulf War and when we returned I think everyone went overboard on the appreciation, but that is better than the alternative. But a lot of us who don't necessrily say it really do appreciate your service in Vietnam and recognize the hardship you endured. There is no way to make up for the past, but "Thanks" for your service.

I'm not in favor of a lot of the current administration's policies, but if it ever gets to the point that people are showing disrespect to our service men and women I for one will go bust some heads.

 

[chefbone]

I'm not in favor of a lot of the current administration's policies, but if it ever gets to the point that people are showing disrespect to our service men and women I for one will go bust some heads.

Bust the head bro. I'll be right beside you!!!!

 

[Peshmerga]

What can you do? There is just as many soldiers dying from accidents in the military as there are from Iraqi's killing them. But if you want to have no life, have low pay and take a chance of dying for Bush's secret agendas go ahead. Also even if your one hard ass mofo you still probably won't make it as a ranger or SF. I've known many of both and to have a chance it needs to be the passion of your life to even have a chance.

I hate to piss on your cornflakes, but I'm just a regular fucking guy and I was a Ranger. Regular guys with some mental toughness and self discipline can do anything they want to. Rangers and SF guys piss standing up and put on their pants one leg at a time. They just made different choices and volunteered to put up with harder training and a harder way of life than other guys.

 

[Peshmerga]

I don't know anything about you, but do you understand what I mean about what can you do? Why risk dying, shit Pat Tillman was killed by other Americans the military finally confirms now. If you were to die like this would you feel like you did something? The military has some many accidental deaths from war, training, PT you just don't hear about it. Going back to the Ranger SF thing I would try to talk to a few If I was you. You know how many people get injured badly in Ranger school. They say that school takes years off your life from getting no sleep for months. Here is one training challenge to work on to prepare, do as many pushups you can do straight then stay in the down part of the push up position for 30 minutes, you might do this for 1 hour staright in RIP. There will be alot harder shit then this once you get to RIP school (pre ranger).

I don't mean to be a dick or pick on you, but it really amazes me how people who have never done it love to comment on it and give advice.

There is absolutely nothing you can't do if you want it bad enough. That is what you learn when you go and do something hard. You learn how much power your mind really does have and that getting through a long ruck march carrying 75 to 100 pounds isn't as much a physical act as it is mental. Later on in life you find yourself in tough situations making difficult decisions and you can handle it because you can reach back there and that strength is there for you to draw on.

Believe me, if I can do it, anybody can do it.

 

[Hardgainer8119]

I have been in the US Army for 5.5 years now and serve at Fort Bragg, NC. It has helped me through life, but the army has treated me shitty at the same time. Bush is fucking stupid...now we are going to be at war for another 5-10 years. Oh yeah more deployments and being away from the family and friends, and the F***ing GYM. Has giving me more responsibility and pride for my country. Would do it again if I had to choose. ...also anyone who dont' appreciate the soldiers of their country can go live somewhere else.

 

[Beachboy6294]

I don't mean to be a dick or pick on you, but it really amazes me how people who have never done it love to comment on it and give advice.

There is absolutely nothing you can't do if you want it bad enough. That is what you learn when you go and do something hard. You learn how much power your mind really does have and that getting through a long ruck march carrying 75 to 100 pounds isn't as much a physical act as it is mental. Later on in life you find yourself in tough situations making difficult decisions and you can handle it because you can reach back there and that strength is there for you to draw on.

Believe me, if I can do it, anybody can do it.

Your right about that when did you go through Bro? Myself Class 12-87...You have seen how pissed I was last night because I had my Military patches listed on my messages and what's his name Detroit whatever started talking trash & said for me not to post my Boy Scout patches!!! I told him many Soldiers had lost their lives wearing that patch including friends! I was just so mad that it took me awhile to calm down.

 

[thelion2005]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

I would advise a little "strategic thinking" here. The military is a fine experience, but very serious.

Which branch? Why?
Officer or enlisted? Why?
Tour or career? Why?

 

[damachine]

Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong section, I'm just looking for advice wherever I can find it...
I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can. To cut right to the chase, those of you who are in the military, do you feel like you have made a difference? I really dont like Bush or his agenda, but I feel that in order to have peace with myself, I need to know that I've helped other people in some way. The older I get, the more that I feel a duty to help those not as priviledged as us. I'm not some young yahoo who has the wrong idea of war and all of it's atrosities, I feel that I know as much as I can about it and I'm definatly not looking for glory or anything like that, I just want to help. So I guess my question to the military guys is, would you do it again if you had the chance? Thanks to everyone in advance, as this is something that has been ripping at me for a very long time and I'm about to make a final decision.
Nathan

Army sucks if you decide to join a military branch i would advise you to join air force. Army treats you like shit

 

[Peshmerga]

Army sucks if you decide to join a military branch i would advise you to join air force. Army treats you like shit

WTF?! The Air Force isn't a branch of the military! They give us rides so we can do the fighting....

 

[Shoes82]

First of all, I want to say thank you to everyone who spoke their mind on this issue, good or bad. I do know how serious this decision is and I'm not taking it lightly. Oh, and Pdaddy, like I said in the opening post, I don't agree with Bush either but this decision isn't about that. I also know that this has nothing to do with steroids, I posted here b/c I knew that it would be read and responded to.
Thelion2005, to answer your questions:
1) Which branch and why? I am leaning towards the army. My father served in vietnam in the army and I do have an interest in the Rangers as a test for myself, more on that later. However, I would like to know more about the air force
2)Officer or enlisted, why? enlisted. I have about 2 years of college under my belt and if i did join I would finish after I got out which leads me to your next question...
3)Tour or Career? why. I am not looking to go career since I do have a very good job waiting on me when I finish college, whether that be in a couple of years or 10. I'm not looking for a job by any means by going into the military, just the experience of growing as a person and helping others, if I can.
The thing that strikes me most about this situation is that, as I said earlier, my father was in vietnam;firstas infrantry then as a door gunner on a helicopter. He saw the horrors of the war and was in two helicopter crashes, one which broke a few vertebre in his back which ended up sending home. He endured all of the hatred of soldiers when he returned to the states. And yet, after all of this, he still wants me to sign up. I'm not a person who needs too much guidence on anything, I just have an overwhelming feeling that I need to serve, both for myself and others. Like others have said before this post, I feel like the confidence and experience would be good for me. That being said, I still have a lot of reservations about joining, obviously. I'm not using this forum to make my decision, just for some input and knowledge about the whole situation and I again thank all of you for your input.
Nathan

 

[danaf1]

Dude, I'm going into the Army this November. I'm enlisting either as Ranger or 18x(SPecial Forces Recruit). I'm 28 years old, 4 years college,


Chefbone, if you have your degree why don't you go in as an officer? You can still be in the special forces and get a better lifestyle/career out of it. Either way it's great, just wondering why you wouldn't take advantage of the opportunity.

 

[danaf1]

I like Pat Tillman, but he isnt the first athlete to go to war, what makes his sacrifice more noble is that todays athletes are more selfish

Agreed, after what happened to Pat, I get so angry when an athlete refuses to play because there isn't as much money as they want involved or stupid shit like that. This guy gave up millions and a cushy life, to accept maybe $20,000 or so a year in exchange for risking, and eventually giving, his life. That is a man that everyone should look up to.

 

[chefbone]

WTF?! The Air Force isn't a branch of the military! They give us rides so we can do the fighting....

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.....lol

 

[danaf1]

WTF?! The Air Force isn't a branch of the military! They give us rides so we can do the fighting....

WTF, how are you going to say that. Did you not watch the first couple days of the war? AF went in there and took care of that shit. Seriously, probably saved some soldier/marine lives by taking care of some of those buildings. Yeah, overall though, there are a lot of pussies in the AF though, Navy too. I can say that because I am in the AF.

 

[needtogetaas]

since he is no longer hear, i will speak for my friend whom served. he will tell you that he was deployed his second time against his will and he had to drop out of college. i really think he was let down by our country and felt that he was treated unfairly. i am in no way whatsoever disrespecting our soldiers, just giving one perspective, i have nothing but love for our troops regardless of my political views, they fight so i can sleep at night its that simple.

youre friend signed on the line.he had no will.
he knew the price he might have to pay.Iam sorry but I cant stand these weekend worryers that wont to join the army and get the beneas but dont wont to fight when there called to.bunch of bitch asssis.and if you get called back in after you get out.you knew that could happen to.
I would love to be called back in.

 

[Peshmerga]

WTF, how are you going to say that. Did you not watch the first couple days of the war? AF went in there and took care of that shit. Seriously, probably saved some soldier/marine lives by taking care of some of those buildings. Yeah, overall though, there are a lot of pussies in the AF though, Navy too. I can say that because I am in the AF.

NO, that was the Army Air Corps.....

 

[Peshmerga]

youre friend signed on the line.he had no will.
he knew the price he might have to pay.Iam sorry but I cant stand these weekend worryers that wont to join the army and get the beneas but dont wont to fight when there called to.bunch of bitch asssis.and if you get called back in after you get out.you knew that could happen to.
I would love to be called back in.

I hate to sound cold, but the guard and reserve used to be a good part time job and a way to get money for College. But the world has changed. It is a simple mathematical formula: If you sign your name and raise your right hand you do what you are told no matter the personal hardship. If you don't want to endure the hardship don't sign and don't raise your right hand.

Our military is all volunteer.

 

[02gixxersix2]

I am an aircraft mechanic in the Air Force right now. I;ve been in for a little over a year and have 5 years left. The experience is what you make of it just like anything in your life. I know guys in every branch and they will probably all tell you to go Air Force. We get treated the best by far and have the best opportunities. On another note to the guy who said he is going in as special forces, not to knock you but good luck. Damn near no one actually makes it in special forces. Anyone can go in with a guaranteed spot in special forces training but hardly anyone graduates. In the air force we have para-rescue and combat control. My basic training flight had at least 6 that I remember going into that field. Supposedly 2 out of every class of about 400 make it through. Again good luck but I wouldnt tell a lot of people you;re going special forces until you make it through cause u may very well end up looking dumb. To the guy wanting to know if he should go in you have to make your own decision. If you already lead a productive life you could serve your country in other ways not military related. it's not for everyone and it's def. not for me life wise.; I'm glad I went in because I have learned a lot of respect and self-discipline but I'm just not a lifer. Good luck to you and God bless everyone serving this great nation of ours.

 

[danaf1]

NO, that was the Army Air Corps.....

I'll give you credit for trying that one.

 

[chyllaxyn]

I've been battling with the idea of joining the military since I was 18, I'm now 23. I just can't seem to get over the need to help in some way if I can.
Nathan

God Bless the American Warrior.
May his Sword be Steadfast,
His Blow Decisive !

Do what your heart tells you to do bro, but if you ever doubt this country just ask a vet.


...
and when you get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy."

 

[go2failure]

WTF?! The Air Force isn't a branch of the military! They give us rides so we can do the fighting....

A pretty ignorant and uneducated statement, definitely an army member's IQ.

I know more pilots that have been shot at in the AF than I know marines, navy, or army members--and I know a lot of them...

Also, those bullshit convoy/patrol cover stories arent good for blanket "we do the fighting" statements anymore, BECAUSE all branches are being tasked AND trained to do it. Yep, ALL branches are doing it now.

Air Force is the first in to get shot at and to set up camp-- without a flight line, no troops/equipment = no army. Example = Afganistan and other "remote", but VITAL airstrips.

and finally,

Without beat down enemy air defenses--meaning AF goes in first = no army/marine advancement without airpower...


So, pretty much the AF blows the hell out of stuff while getting shot at, so that the army can move their toys in to babysit.

 

[chefbone]

A pretty ignorant and uneducated statement, definitely an army member's IQ.

I know more pilots that have been shot at in the AF than I know marines, navy, or army members--and I know a lot of them...

Also, those bullshit convoy/patrol cover stories arent good for blanket "we do the fighting" statements anymore, BECAUSE all branches are being tasked AND trained to do it. Yep, ALL branches are doing it now.

Air Force is the first in to get shot at and to set up camp-- without a flight line, no troops/equipment = no army. Example = Afganistan and other "remote", but VITAL airstrips.

and finally,

Without beat down enemy air defenses--meaning AF goes in first = no army/marine advancement without airpower...


So, pretty much the AF blows the hell out of stuff while getting shot at, so that the army can move their toys in to babysit.

Peshmerga is a decorated vet who has kept freedom available to you and yours. You ??? his IQ? WTF is your problem. He made a general statement that makes perfect sense.



Yours truly,


EDITBYBONE

 

[go2failure]

I am an aircraft mechanic in the Air Force right now. I;ve been in for a little over a year and have 5 years left. The experience is what you make of it just like anything in your life. I know guys in every branch and they will probably all tell you to go Air Force. We get treated the best by far and have the best opportunities. On another note to the guy who said he is going in as special forces, not to knock you but good luck. Damn near no one actually makes it in special forces. Anyone can go in with a guaranteed spot in special forces training but hardly anyone graduates. In the air force we have para-rescue and combat control. My basic training flight had at least 6 that I remember going into that field. Supposedly 2 out of every class of about 400 make it through. Again good luck but I wouldnt tell a lot of people you;re going special forces until you make it through cause u may very well end up looking dumb. To the guy wanting to know if he should go in you have to make your own decision. If you already lead a productive life you could serve your country in other ways not military related. it's not for everyone and it's def. not for me life wise.; I'm glad I went in because I have learned a lot of respect and self-discipline but I'm just not a lifer. Good luck to you and God bless everyone serving this great nation of ours.

Was part of the maintenance team for a while...

Finished my degree and commissioned into ops, nowadays special ops tempo in the AF is crazy--we take assignments over the SEALS and Army special ops. The incentives are: Challenges and a $100K reenlistment bonuses to all who make it in and make it alive to the next enlistment. You're welcome to try!

 

[go2failure]

Do you suck cock? May you burn in hell for questioning a man of his caliber. Peshmerga is a decorated vet who has kept freedom available to you and yours. You ??? his IQ? WTF is your problem. He made a general statement that makes perfect sense.

You should change your name from go2failure to COCKMONGER

Yours truly,

Being in the Army, Navy, Marines, AF, a gang, or anything else for that matter does not equate manhood or courage. However, it does state what you are prepared to do when asked.

So the fuck what if he's a Vet, so am I... I dont wear it on my shoulder because its my job and my duty to do what I do.

 

[chefbone]

Being in the Army, Navy, Marines, AF, a gang, or anything else for that matter does not equate manhood or courage.

So the fuck what if he's a Vet, so am I... I dont wear it on my shoulder because its my job and my duty to do what I do.

I never said it proves manhood. Him being a vet deserves a certain level of respect. I offer my sincere apologies because I was unaware of your service. I am truly sorry. The thing is I've seen some gov. and mil. bashing on the board lately and it infuriates me. Some people don't understand the dedication, devotion and sacrifice that it requires to VOLUNTEER for the service. I will edit that previous post. PM me later, I'm going to the Army in October and I have ???'s about exercise and preparation for it.

SORRY DUDE

 

[Beachboy6294]

A pretty ignorant and uneducated statement, definitely an army member's IQ.

I know more pilots that have been shot at in the AF than I know marines, navy, or army members--and I know a lot of them...

Also, those bullshit convoy/patrol cover stories arent good for blanket "we do the fighting" statements anymore, BECAUSE all branches are being tasked AND trained to do it. Yep, ALL branches are doing it now.

Air Force is the first in to get shot at and to set up camp-- without a flight line, no troops/equipment = no army. Example = Afganistan and other "remote", but VITAL airstrips.

So, pretty much the AF blows the hell out of stuff while getting shot at, so that the army can move their toys in to babysit.


and finally,

Without beat down enemy air defenses--meaning AF goes in first = no army/marine advancement without airpower...

Damn Bro I thought it was wrong of him to talk trash also about the Air Force but you didn't have to be that way & say it had to be an Army IQ! Whenever your life is on the line during any battle/firefight there is nothing you love more than air support may it be from the Army/AF/Navy/ or Marines. Every branch talks their crap about each other during peace time but during a War, shit we our all one big family that needs each other!

All branches are trained to do the fighting now and that is why you even see females getting killed now but to say that the AF is the first to get in and shot at is bull! They damn sure didn't have any AF that had secured our Drop Zone for us before we would go in. Yes part of your statement is true that we need the airstrips and airpower but if you think the AF goes in to take control of those airstrips all alone it is bullshit! That is what were trained for and what we do with the help of the marines. Then last for you to say that "I guess you were in the AF at least since your talking crap to a Ranger that has served" the AF blows the Hell out of things while being shot at so the Army can go in and babysit is very idiotic and just plain stupid!!! We are the Boots on the ground that are fighting face to face if your lucky and being shot at and watching their Bro's getting hurt or killed while moving to our destination/objective and taking it out and then yes we set up perimeter and guard/babysit so the AF can come in to the airstrip! Have some respect Bro I do for the Air Force or a matter of anyone that has served in any branch! Thanks.

 

[go2failure]

I never said it proves manhood. Him being a vet deserves a certain level of respect. I offer my sincere apologies because I was unaware of your service. I am truly sorry. The thing is I've seen some gov. and mil. bashing on the board lately and it infuriates me. Some people don't understand the dedication, devotion and sacrifice that it requires to VOLUNTEER for the service. I will edit that previous post. PM me later, I'm going to the Army in October and I have ???'s about exercise and preparation for it.

SORRY DUDE

The fact of the matter is that bashing between branches goes on as well. (example already given)

However, this is not meant in the same way as the anti-military types, its just sister service rivalry and pride...

 

[go2failure]

Damn Bro I thought it was wrong of him to talk trash also about the Air Force but you didn't have to be that way & say it had to be an Army IQ! Whenever your life is on the line during any battle/firefight there is nothing you love more than air support may it be from the Army/AF/Navy/ or Marines. Every branch talks their crap about each other during peace time but during a War, shit we our all one big family that needs each other!

All branches are trained to do the fighting now and that is why you even see females getting killed now but to say that the AF is the first to get in and shot at is bull! They damn sure didn't have any AF that had secured our Drop Zone for us before we would go in. Yes part of your statement is true that we need the airstrips and airpower but if you think the AF goes in to take control of those airstrips all alone it is bullshit! That is what were trained for and what we do with the help of the marines. Then last for you to say that "I guess you were in the AF at least since your talking crap to a Ranger that has served" the AF blows the Hell out of things while being shot at so the Army can go in and babysit is very idiotic and just plain stupid!!! We are the Boots on the ground that are fighting face to face if your lucky and being shot at and watching their Bro's getting hurt or killed while moving to our destination/objective and taking it out and then yes we set up perimeter and guard/babysit so the AF can come in to the airstrip! Have some respect Bro I do for the Air Force or a matter of anyone that has served in any branch! Thanks.

I understand your aggravation.

Nowadays the AF does its own dirty work for airstrips and OPS. They take their combat controllers, TACP, Pararescue, CE, MX, and security forces and set up camp (Thank God for C-130s)...


While I do know the army gets shot and so do the marines, I also know the AF does. Case in point, my last squadron:

The Iraq part 2 campaign was at a standstill while the B-52s revved their engines, took off with their low speed capabilities, and blew the fuck out the republican guard with little to no air-to-air support and TONS of AA fire. We cleared the way those days. Bottom Line: Purple Hearts were handed out bro, we did our job just as you did yours.

However, Persh called us out and I gave it back to him. I'm sure that at least one person from every branch can claim they've been shot at. I'm also sure that at least one person from every branch can say they haven't.

 

[02gixxersix2]

to say the Air Force isnt a branch of the military is just plain ignorance. Every war is won with air power. With the new drone technology there will eventually be almost no need for ground troops. Air force takes care of business.

 

[02gixxersix2]

A pretty ignorant and uneducated statement, definitely an army member's IQ.

I know more pilots that have been shot at in the AF than I know marines, navy, or army members--and I know a lot of them...

Also, those bullshit convoy/patrol cover stories arent good for blanket "we do the fighting" statements anymore, BECAUSE all branches are being tasked AND trained to do it. Yep, ALL branches are doing it now.

Air Force is the first in to get shot at and to set up camp-- without a flight line, no troops/equipment = no army. Example = Afganistan and other "remote", but VITAL airstrips.

and finally,

Without beat down enemy air defenses--meaning AF goes in first = no army/marine advancement without airpower...


So, pretty much the AF blows the hell out of stuff while getting shot at, so that the army can move their toys in to babysit.

yep we might not always be in the direct line of fire but we are the backbone.........without our Air Force there would be no victories.

 

[chefbone]

yep we might not always be in the direct line of fire but we are the backbone.........without our Air Force there would be no victories.

cough.....bull shit....cough

 

[GUESS]

Yes your right but not many Pro athlete went Special Forces of any type that I know of. Also his sacrifice isn't anymore than any Man that leave his wife,kids, family, & dog to go fight for his Country, but I still Love him! Man I missed my Dog!!!!

I was hoping someone would mention that what Pat did was no different than any other man that served, died and left behind a wife, his children and a beautiful family life. I do admire what he did though, he left a life and sport that alot of very selfish people would kill for. Much respect for the men that serve their country for the good and safety of all.....THANK YOU!

 

[Peshmerga]

Guys....I'm just fucking around....ENGAGE SARCASM SHIELD (alt-cntrl-F3)

Being in the Army, Navy, Marines, AF, a gang, or anything else for that matter does not equate manhood or courage. However, it does state what you are prepared to do when asked.

So the fuck what if he's a Vet, so am I... I dont wear it on my shoulder because its my job and my duty to do what I do.

 

[Peshmerga]

I went through HALO School with some Air Force PJs and yes, I will publicly admit the Air Force is a branch of the Department of Defense....damn...when I was in the Army we could all fuck around with each other...

 

[danaf1]

I went through HALO School with some Air Force PJs and yes, I will publicly admit the Air Force is a branch of the Department of Defense....damn...when I was in the Army we could all fuck around with each other...

Yeah, we still do. I sense some hostility on this board though.

 

[02gixxersix2]

cough.....bull shit....cough

LOL you're not even in the military yet and you're calling bullshit. God bless the troops on the front line, they get shit done and work in the line of fire day in and day out, but its a fact that air power wins wars and anyone who tells you otherwise does not know what they are talking about. If ground power was the ultimate force China would be the worlds greatest military superpower. And yes we all fuck with each other but someone who isn't even in the military wouldn't knwo anything about that.
And our AF SERE guys who aren't a branch of the military apparently are the ones who train marines, navy seals, and other branches special forces members survival and evasion tactics. Stop listening to what your recruiter tells you about the Air Force hes just trying to sell you on the Army.

 

[bicepts101]

i hated the army...would i do it again?...yes...was it worth it?...yes....im a new person now....more mature...goal oriented

life style sucked ass....you can be called in at anytime for something that could have waited untill duty hours the next day.....and yes u sign on the line but your recruiter tells u only so much....if u dont know what to ask then u wonjt understand what u are getting into....plain and simple i dont care wat anyones say

one thing is for sure though that everyone knows that u can go to war and u can die.

 

[chefbone]

i hated the army...would i do it again?...yes...was it worth it?...yes....im a new person now....more mature...goal oriented

life style sucked ass....you can be called in at anytime for something that could have waited untill duty hours the next day.....and yes u sign on the line but your recruiter tells u only so much....if u dont know what to ask then u wonjt understand what u are getting into....plain and simple i dont care wat anyones say

one thing is for sure though that everyone knows that u can go to war and u can die.

I'm going to MEPS on Thursday. Kinda freakin' out. If I don't get exactly what I want......I'll probably still go. How long were you in Bicepts? What was your MOS?

 

[bicepts101]

I'm going to MEPS on Thursday. Kinda freakin' out. If I don't get exactly what I want......I'll probably still go. How long were you in Bicepts? What was your MOS?

i was in for 3 years...not that long but enough time to figure out a lot about myself....i didnt go in gun hoe i was a cook. after being in i had wished i joined to be a ranger but it was already too late i saw how the "Regular Army" operated and no longer wanted to be a part of it.

honestly the cook thing did me well...now i have the credentials to manage part of a restarant....i got a good amount of awards for the time i was in

 

[natty]

I'm going to MEPS on Thursday. Kinda freakin' out. If I don't get exactly what I want......I'll probably still go. How long were you in Bicepts? What was your MOS?

I was in the Army if you need advice pm me and I'll give you my phone number. The military is desperate right now make sure you get what you want or don't sign up. Demand what you want and let them know your not signing unless you get that, this will help you trust me. Even if you sign up you don't have to go you can change your mind. Your not officially in until you swear in that second time which would be the day you leave for basic, don't let recruiters bs you.

 

[chefbone]

I was in the Army if you need advice pm me and I'll give you my phone number. The military is desperate right now make sure you get what you want or don't sign up. Demand what you want and let them know your not signing unless you get that, this will help you trust me. Even if you sign up you don't have to go you can change your mind. Your not officially in until you swear in that second time which would be the day you leave for basic, don't let recruiters bs you.

I'll get back to ya!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

I was in the Army if you need advice pm me and I'll give you my phone number. The military is desperate right now make sure you get what you want or don't sign up. Demand what you want and let them know your not signing unless you get that, this will help you trust me. Even if you sign up you don't have to go you can change your mind. Your not officially in until you swear in that second time which would be the day you leave for basic, don't let recruiters bs you.

see chef this is what I was saying.dont let them fuck with you and get EVRY THING IN RIGHTING.

 

[Whiskey]

I hear ya Nate. I'm now 26, about to turn 27. I have a good job that is secure and one that I get to keep my seniority even if I leave for the military. I might in about a year. I have some things that i need to take care of first

Whiskey

 

[chyllaxyn]

i hated the army...would i do it again?...yes...was it worth it?...yes....im a new person now....more mature...goal oriented
.

And it takes real maturity to say it sucked but it was worth it. Too many young people wander around with no direction or self disipline, good to hear your honesty.

K to ya bro !

 

[Beachboy6294]

I was in the Army if you need advice pm me and I'll give you my phone number. The military is desperate right now make sure you get what you want or don't sign up. Demand what you want and let them know your not signing unless you get that, this will help you trust me. Even if you sign up you don't have to go you can change your mind. Your not officially in until you swear in that second time which would be the day you leave for basic, don't let recruiters bs you.

Damn Natty I finally agree with you on something about the ARMY! J/J Your exactly right he should demand what he wants and get it in your contract because the recruiters have so many positions to fill and if they can find someone that will do whatever they say they'll lie and put them in a job that nobody else wants! I am not sure how he did on the ASVAB either but if they don't offer you what you want say Airborne school then leave the Meps and tell them your out and I promise a spot will open up sometime that week and he'll get a call!

 

[wesdo2gg]

Hey bro's, i know this is my first post but i was a member here a long time ago and can't quite remember my old name. anyway, I elnlited in the Marine Corps right out of high school. Probably the best thing i have done looking back at it. I went into the shit. I've been over there twice and would go again in a heart beat. i'll be the first to say that the news is jaded and almost propaganda. i have rebuilt schools, given food to cities, purified water in the cities etc. there are great things going on over there everyday that nobody talks about, and it's a shame. yea, it sucks over there! It's hot, you get shot at all the time, IED's are a constant worry, but i KNOW that i have made a difference is the world. I want to be back over there everytime i turn on the news, because i know people over there and i want to be next to them. it's clearly up to you, like everyone else is saying, there are plenty of other ways to help people. one thing that i will tell you is that you WILL NOT come back from that place the same as when you left! in both good and bad ways. if you would like to talk more about this, you can email me.

 

[11bInBalad]

I just got out of the Infantry (army) after ten years. I also just got back from Iraq about 3 months ago. What it all boils down to is seeing some amazing stuff, meeting some amazing people, and doing your best for your comrades. Your experience depends more on your attitude than the branch or MOS that you choose. If you want to ask me any specific questions, please feel free to PM me. Remember though, this country was built with the men and women sleeping in the mud, not the politicians. I'm proud to say that I was part of it.