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PatsFan34
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I get them all the time...it fucking sucks. On wednesday night I took 2000 mgs of Tylanol before I went to bed and I woke up in the morning with the same damn shit!!! Excedrine works so much better IMO!!!
Sometimes I get them so bad that I have to lay down in a dark room in perfect silence and hope it goes away...awful!!! Painkillers always seem to do the trick though!!!
Sometimes I get them so bad that I have to lay down in a dark room in perfect silence and hope it goes away...awful!!! Painkillers always seem to do the trick though!!!
Stress being the only cause of migraine is huge misconception among people. Migraines can be caused by metabolic changes, hormonal changes, structural and/or environmental changes or disturbances, stress and other emotional/ psychological factors. Migraines may also be trigger by dietary changes, continuous hormonal imbalances, auto-immune disturbances, lifestyle factors, and of course stress.
There are several types of adult migraine as well:
Common migraine
Classic migraine
Basilar migraine
Retinal migraine
The headache one gets when they have a migraine is only a single symptom of the migraine; one can have a migraine, yet have no headache pain.
Headaches are one of the many symptoms of migraine, others include:
Anxiety, aura with or without headache, weakness, nervousness, depression, increased urination or bowel movements, dizziness, imbalance (sometimes vertigo), double vision or temporary blindness, cold and clammy hands and feet, tingling of the hands or feet, numbness, lightheadedness, bred or teary eyes, nausea or vomiting, intolerance to light and noise, water retention, hyperventilation or nasal congestion.
If you have migraines it is very important that you learn what your triggers are - especially the food ones as those are the easiest to control. Secondly, it is important to find meds that work for you as well as knowing what your warning signs are that a migraine is coming - food craving, severe mood or energy swings are also signs in addition to aura, ringing, nausea, dizziness, tension at the nape of the neck, or a twitching / popping feeling on either side of your temples near your eyes.
I've suffered from complicated migraines for 22 years with a short term 5 years diagnose for the mystery pain and unwell feeling I'd always experienced.
There are several types of adult migraine as well:
Common migraine
Classic migraine
Basilar migraine
Retinal migraine
The headache one gets when they have a migraine is only a single symptom of the migraine; one can have a migraine, yet have no headache pain.
Headaches are one of the many symptoms of migraine, others include:
Anxiety, aura with or without headache, weakness, nervousness, depression, increased urination or bowel movements, dizziness, imbalance (sometimes vertigo), double vision or temporary blindness, cold and clammy hands and feet, tingling of the hands or feet, numbness, lightheadedness, bred or teary eyes, nausea or vomiting, intolerance to light and noise, water retention, hyperventilation or nasal congestion.
If you have migraines it is very important that you learn what your triggers are - especially the food ones as those are the easiest to control. Secondly, it is important to find meds that work for you as well as knowing what your warning signs are that a migraine is coming - food craving, severe mood or energy swings are also signs in addition to aura, ringing, nausea, dizziness, tension at the nape of the neck, or a twitching / popping feeling on either side of your temples near your eyes.
I've suffered from complicated migraines for 22 years with a short term 5 years diagnose for the mystery pain and unwell feeling I'd always experienced.
nvrbuffenuff_girl
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Several years back I had a migraine for months. I woudl wake up and go to sleep with this migraine. It was the most horrific pain ever!
I had all sorts of tests, took every prescription there was in every strength for the pain and nothing made them go away. The pain was so severe my eyeballs would twitch. It was constant pressure. I could barely open my eyes somedays. Then one day I woke up and they were suddenly gone. It was weird. Ever since I've only gotten a migraine here and there. I always worry that the same thing will happen again but thank goodness it hasn't.
I had all sorts of tests, took every prescription there was in every strength for the pain and nothing made them go away. The pain was so severe my eyeballs would twitch. It was constant pressure. I could barely open my eyes somedays. Then one day I woke up and they were suddenly gone. It was weird. Ever since I've only gotten a migraine here and there. I always worry that the same thing will happen again but thank goodness it hasn't.
flexygrl
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I get them every other month, ya know during my "girlie" time. But this week I had one that started on Monday and finally ended today! After taking a million Tylenols, aleve and tylenol PM to get to sleep, I asked one of my co-workers for some excedrine, and bam within 30 minutes it was gone!! What a relief! It was so bad today that I had to close my eyes and take a 20 minute nap in my office.
vinylgroover
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I get them once a week........unless i hit them with ibuprofen early, i'm useless for the rest of the day. Not a pleasant thing at all
vinylgroover
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Kaksback said:
I have read and heard that alot of migraines are caused by underlying back and neck problems.
Red Shadow
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I'm a migraine sufferer too. Mine are triggered by glare or bright lights. The sun makes things very glarey (like car windows in the morning, or the sun shining onto my stainless steel kitchen sink) so I don't leave the house without my sunglasses. And if its a really bright day, and I'm in a car or on the train I just have to keep my eyes closed for the duration of the trip, in case I see something really bright. I walk around looking at the ground quite often because I'm afraid of getting a migraine. Camera flashes are also no good.
What happens is, I see something really bright, and when I close my eyes I can still see it. It does not always turn into a migraine but alot of the time it does. My vision in one eye will become distorted so that I can't read, and I will see a big bright ring that looks kind of psychadelic. Then I'll start to see weird wavy lines that look almost electric radiating out of the ring. It's so freaky. Finally that goes away after about 20 minutes or so of lying down in a completely quiet and dark room. Then the nausea and pain arrive... I'll have the headache for up to 4 days, and taking strong over the counter pain killers only helps a bit. After the first day it wont hurt when I'm standing up or sitting up, but if I bend down it hurts so badly that I want to collapse! I start acting like that guy in the movie Pi.
Oh and one other way I get migraines that I discovered a while back now, is going to bed on an empty stomach. I wen't to bed really hungry one night and when I woke up my world was spinning. I couldn't move without feeling nauseous and I had a killer migraine. I think it's because I get hypoglycemic if I don't eat regularly.
I've not had a migraine in about 4 months now and I hope not to ever have one again. I talked to my doctor about it and he perscribed some medication but it was way too expensive for me at that point. So he said that if I'm getting a migraine a cheap alternative would be to have a strong cup of coffee, becausae caffiene is like the main ingredient in migraine medicine. Something about it making the blood vessles in the brain stop swelling or something gross like that
What happens is, I see something really bright, and when I close my eyes I can still see it. It does not always turn into a migraine but alot of the time it does. My vision in one eye will become distorted so that I can't read, and I will see a big bright ring that looks kind of psychadelic. Then I'll start to see weird wavy lines that look almost electric radiating out of the ring. It's so freaky. Finally that goes away after about 20 minutes or so of lying down in a completely quiet and dark room. Then the nausea and pain arrive... I'll have the headache for up to 4 days, and taking strong over the counter pain killers only helps a bit. After the first day it wont hurt when I'm standing up or sitting up, but if I bend down it hurts so badly that I want to collapse! I start acting like that guy in the movie Pi.
Oh and one other way I get migraines that I discovered a while back now, is going to bed on an empty stomach. I wen't to bed really hungry one night and when I woke up my world was spinning. I couldn't move without feeling nauseous and I had a killer migraine. I think it's because I get hypoglycemic if I don't eat regularly.
I've not had a migraine in about 4 months now and I hope not to ever have one again. I talked to my doctor about it and he perscribed some medication but it was way too expensive for me at that point. So he said that if I'm getting a migraine a cheap alternative would be to have a strong cup of coffee, becausae caffiene is like the main ingredient in migraine medicine. Something about it making the blood vessles in the brain stop swelling or something gross like that
Big Johnson
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I use to get them before I started eating low carb. Now, I eat zero carbs and never get headaches of any kind, let alone the ones that make you wish you could puke.
poultrygeist
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Lifelong cluster headache sufferer here. Ever literally wish you could die the head pain is so bad? Feels like your eye is blowing up for 5 minutes. That's what a cluster headache is like. Try taking some petadolex or feverfew. Petadolex is a little bit stronger and that's what I use. It won't fix a migraine that's already hurting but it helps prevent them or at least keep them from being so debilitating. Very low carb works awesome like Big Johnson said. Low carb + petadolex = no headache in several months for me.
Puddles
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I started with migraines when I was in my teens. The worst were the years after I had my daughter. I'd litterally pass out from the pain. I had developed pre-eclampsia (high bloodpressure) when I was pregnant and after it didn't go away for a few yrs. I was put on b.p. meds. Propanalol was the one thta worked best...a very high dose, but it's also used as a migraine preventative. I also correlated many of the attacks to foods I'd eaten, like orang juice, wine, and sharp aged cheeses. Also, the worst ones were set off by nights of drinking. Certain odors would become untollerable during a migraine, like cig. smoke and perfumes. Light was out of the question...no TV, blinds closed, no computer, etc. Sounds were bad too...even the dull hum of the a/c hurt. The propanalol over years decreased the attacks but I still got them a few times a month. The vomitting was bad and the only thing I could keep down was salty broth or ramen noodle soup. Over the past year I was able to decrease my b.p. med. to the point of not needing it anymore and now the only time I get a migraine is the monthly one...usually only lasts for 1 or 2 days, but the severity is much less. The day it's gone I'm relieved (they usually dissapear during a night of sleep or a nap), but I'm left with migraine hangover. Overheating will also cause them for me, like working outside in the garden...that used to guarantee a migraine after my shower, so now I only do it if it's cooler out. A combination of caffine, Vicodin and muscle relaxants seem to help me best. I'm also using a progesterone cream for the last 2 months and the migraines have been even less severe. After 20+ yrs, they're finally almost gone.
collegiateLifter
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have you guys ever tried smokin weed to ease your migraine?
I'm quite serrious; there's alot of anecdotal evidence that it may be helpful.
I'm quite serrious; there's alot of anecdotal evidence that it may be helpful.
Red Shadow
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I've try smoking weed to help with any ailment I might have hehe 
As far as relieving my migraines or even just a headache goes it's not been very helpful. If anything I think it makes me feel even worse.
It kind of makes my head throb even more than it already is when I've got the migraine and I start freaking out lol Feels like something in there is gonna pop. Yikes!
As far as relieving my migraines or even just a headache goes it's not been very helpful. If anything I think it makes me feel even worse.
It kind of makes my head throb even more than it already is when I've got the migraine and I start freaking out lol
Feels like something in there is gonna pop. Yikes!
gotmilk
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velvett said:
I blew out a sinus when I broke my nose. The constant pressure that builds up causes the worst headaches ever. I learned that a cold wash-cloth helps relieve the pressure by removing the heat that builds up in the area. Most migraines develop in a "heat area".
My doctors said that migraines become worse as you build a tolerance to your medication. Once I stopped taking aspirin, my migraines became less frequent and less in strength
man. many of you have it all wrong when it comes to migraines.
wonder why you keep gettin them even though you have medication??
because you dont get migraines because your brain is lacking aspirin or because your brain is craving opiate pain killers etc.
its a CNS problem. go see a CNS specialist. dont know one? Look up Chiropractor in the yellow pages.
youll save sooooo much money by not wasting it on useless medications/prescriptions and you will keep your migraines away for good.
wonder why you keep gettin them even though you have medication??
because you dont get migraines because your brain is lacking aspirin or because your brain is craving opiate pain killers etc.
its a CNS problem. go see a CNS specialist. dont know one? Look up Chiropractor in the yellow pages.
youll save sooooo much money by not wasting it on useless medications/prescriptions and you will keep your migraines away for good.
ok, here's going from memory (which isnt usally goodKaksback said:
)migranes can be caused by malfunction in cerebral blood flow, often the cause is hard to determine but vasodilation leading to oedema and substances being released may cause troubles (NO)
there are triggers to the headaches if memory serves me right, and it can be , cheese, oral contraceptibes, alcohol, anxiety, travel or exercise, so that may be worth considering
if people dont respond to the NSAID type treatment, S-HT agonist (triptans) can be given which cause vasoconstriction. they can also be used in prophylaxis if the migranes are real bad
has ur doc told u any of this? i assume he has, have u tried any of it?
Kaksback said:
sounds like it may be a shot, if nothing has worked so far, u may even be able to get a good referral from ur doc
collegiateLifter
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was doin some reading, and while for some, smokin herb might help with the actual migraine, it is generally thought of as more effective as a preventitive measure, i.e. smoke a tiny bit every day...
Cervicogenic Headache Model Gives Credence to Chiropractic
Until recently, the medical understanding of headaches has not taken into account the chiropractic model. The concept that headache pain can emanate from cervical dysfunction is still completely foreign to most of the medical profession. Noted researcher Nikolai Bogduk, MD, PhD, professor of anatomy at Newcastle, Australia, commented:
"The people in control of the headache field seemingly have not, cannot, or will not, recognize this paradox ... that the model for cervicogenic headache is not only the best evolved of all headaches but is testable in vivo, in patients with headache complaints. No other form of headache has that facility."
Several years ago, a Canadian anesthesiologist, Peter Rothbart, MD, FRCPC, came to the same conclusions about cervicogenic headache. Dr. Rothbart made many observations in his own pain management practice which subsequently led to an article in the Toronto Star, the most widely read newspaper in Canada. The Toronto Star article, "A Pain in the Neck," was subtitled: "Chiropractors were right.
Many headaches are caused by damaged structures in the neck -- and scientific evidence proves it." The article explained that years ago, French medical professor Robert Maigne "came to believe that many headaches originated with a structural problem in the neck." He was "thought to be a lunatic," said Dr. Rothbart. But others took up Dr. Maigne's work, including Dr. Nik Bogduk.
In 1995, a team of MDs at Syracuse University established neck problems as the cause of many headaches "with scientific, anatomical proof." Dr. Rothbart termed the Syracuse results "a minor miracle." In the Toronto Star article, Dr. Rothbart made several insightful comments:
"Some brilliant people have put their hearts, souls and minds to this (headache) problem and haven't come up with anything. All we've been able to do is treat people with an array of medicines, one after the other, and hope the side effects won't be too bad."
"We couldn't believe it at first. We've been able to put together a scientific explanation for how neck structure causes headaches -- not all headaches, but a significant number of them."
"It's true that chiropractors have been saying this for years. Unfortunately, many (medical) doctors tend to have a jaundiced view of chiropractors, but they were right about headaches."
Dr. Rothbart's clinical experience and findings have led him to become a founder and president of the North American Cervicogenic Headache Society (NACHS). The NACHS is dedicated to establishing the place of cervicogenic headache in the minds and practices of those health care provider who treat headaches. At the first North American Cervicogenic Headache Conference, held last year, Dr. Rothbart remarked:
"So far as the International Headache Society and the American Association for the Study of Headaches have defined this entity (cervicogenic headache) -- it simply doesn't exist. I'm pleased to say that thanks to the works of Drs. Merskey and Bogduk, cervicogenic headache is recognized in the IASP (International Association for the Study of Pain) taxonomy. This situation creates an enormous problem in addressing the diagnosis and treatment of headaches. Since most of the physicians and headachologists are unfamiliar with the IASP taxonomy, they are unaware of this entity, so diagnosis of cervicogenic headache is rarely made. Thus, there are a large number of chronic headache sufferers who go through life with the wrong diagnosis and hence the wrong treatment for their headache. It was the ongoing ignorance about this clinical entity that motivated the founders of this society to establish a formal organization. One of our goals is for this entity to be accepted into the general headache classification, and until this happens, large numbers of patients will continue to suffer unnecessarily."
The second North American Cervicogenic Headache Conference will be held in Las Vegas, March 22-23. Dr. Rothbart with be the conference moderator. Conference speakers include Dr. Bogduk and Howard Vernon, DC, associate dean of research at the Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College in Toronto. The conference is designed for MDs, DCs and all other providers who deal with headaches. One of the sessions will specifically address the use of "manipulative therapy" for cervicogenic headaches.
The development of the concept of cervicogenic headache has opened a new door for chiropractic. As this concept is developed and adopted, it is expected that a large percentage of headache sufferers will fall into this category. Chiropractic has much to offer as the first line care for cervicogenic headache. Dr. Rothbart notes the importance of this conference for DCs:
"This conference will demonstrate the anatomy and physiology of cervicogenic headache and will show the importance of manipulation as a method of treatment. This will be the first conference bringing together chiropractors and neurologists. It will help to validate chiropractic practice to some of the most skeptical medical practitioners and so benefit all practitioners involved in treatment of chronic headaches."
Until recently, the medical understanding of headaches has not taken into account the chiropractic model. The concept that headache pain can emanate from cervical dysfunction is still completely foreign to most of the medical profession. Noted researcher Nikolai Bogduk, MD, PhD, professor of anatomy at Newcastle, Australia, commented:
"The people in control of the headache field seemingly have not, cannot, or will not, recognize this paradox ... that the model for cervicogenic headache is not only the best evolved of all headaches but is testable in vivo, in patients with headache complaints. No other form of headache has that facility."
Several years ago, a Canadian anesthesiologist, Peter Rothbart, MD, FRCPC, came to the same conclusions about cervicogenic headache. Dr. Rothbart made many observations in his own pain management practice which subsequently led to an article in the Toronto Star, the most widely read newspaper in Canada. The Toronto Star article, "A Pain in the Neck," was subtitled: "Chiropractors were right.
Many headaches are caused by damaged structures in the neck -- and scientific evidence proves it." The article explained that years ago, French medical professor Robert Maigne "came to believe that many headaches originated with a structural problem in the neck." He was "thought to be a lunatic," said Dr. Rothbart. But others took up Dr. Maigne's work, including Dr. Nik Bogduk.
In 1995, a team of MDs at Syracuse University established neck problems as the cause of many headaches "with scientific, anatomical proof." Dr. Rothbart termed the Syracuse results "a minor miracle." In the Toronto Star article, Dr. Rothbart made several insightful comments:
"Some brilliant people have put their hearts, souls and minds to this (headache) problem and haven't come up with anything. All we've been able to do is treat people with an array of medicines, one after the other, and hope the side effects won't be too bad."
"We couldn't believe it at first. We've been able to put together a scientific explanation for how neck structure causes headaches -- not all headaches, but a significant number of them."
"It's true that chiropractors have been saying this for years. Unfortunately, many (medical) doctors tend to have a jaundiced view of chiropractors, but they were right about headaches."
Dr. Rothbart's clinical experience and findings have led him to become a founder and president of the North American Cervicogenic Headache Society (NACHS). The NACHS is dedicated to establishing the place of cervicogenic headache in the minds and practices of those health care provider who treat headaches. At the first North American Cervicogenic Headache Conference, held last year, Dr. Rothbart remarked:
"So far as the International Headache Society and the American Association for the Study of Headaches have defined this entity (cervicogenic headache) -- it simply doesn't exist. I'm pleased to say that thanks to the works of Drs. Merskey and Bogduk, cervicogenic headache is recognized in the IASP (International Association for the Study of Pain) taxonomy. This situation creates an enormous problem in addressing the diagnosis and treatment of headaches. Since most of the physicians and headachologists are unfamiliar with the IASP taxonomy, they are unaware of this entity, so diagnosis of cervicogenic headache is rarely made. Thus, there are a large number of chronic headache sufferers who go through life with the wrong diagnosis and hence the wrong treatment for their headache. It was the ongoing ignorance about this clinical entity that motivated the founders of this society to establish a formal organization. One of our goals is for this entity to be accepted into the general headache classification, and until this happens, large numbers of patients will continue to suffer unnecessarily."
The second North American Cervicogenic Headache Conference will be held in Las Vegas, March 22-23. Dr. Rothbart with be the conference moderator. Conference speakers include Dr. Bogduk and Howard Vernon, DC, associate dean of research at the Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College in Toronto. The conference is designed for MDs, DCs and all other providers who deal with headaches. One of the sessions will specifically address the use of "manipulative therapy" for cervicogenic headaches.
The development of the concept of cervicogenic headache has opened a new door for chiropractic. As this concept is developed and adopted, it is expected that a large percentage of headache sufferers will fall into this category. Chiropractic has much to offer as the first line care for cervicogenic headache. Dr. Rothbart notes the importance of this conference for DCs:
"This conference will demonstrate the anatomy and physiology of cervicogenic headache and will show the importance of manipulation as a method of treatment. This will be the first conference bringing together chiropractors and neurologists. It will help to validate chiropractic practice to some of the most skeptical medical practitioners and so benefit all practitioners involved in treatment of chronic headaches."
Chiropractic for MIGRAINES
It's another sunny July afternoon and your kids are out by the pool, laughing, playing and enjoying the sunshine. (Make sure they’re wearing sunscreen!) You’d love
to join them, but you’re trapped inside again, enduring the pain and frustration
of another migraine headache.
If you suffer from migraines, you’re certainly not alone. They’re relatively common, affecting an estimated 10% of the population. What can be done to get rid of migraines? According to a recent study, chiropractic care may hold the answer.
One hundred and twenty-seven migraine patients (at least one migraine per month) were divided into two groups for comparison. Group 1 received chiropractic adjustments at specific vertebral subluxations determined by the treating practitioner; group 2 served as controls and received inactive treatment (electrical stimulation with no current delivered). Subjects receiving chiropractic adjustments reported substantial improvement in migraine frequency, duration, disability, and medication use following two months of treatment. One in five participants reported a 90% reduction in migraines, and half reported significant improvement in migraine severity.
Are you tired of migraine headaches ruining your day? With conventional over-the-counter medications proving less than effective (and often accompanied by dangerous side effects), it’s time to fight the pain from another angle. To find out more about the potential benefits of chiropractic care, schedule an appointment with your doctor of chiropractic.
Reference:
Tuchin PJ, Pollard H, Bonello R. A randomized controlled trial of chiropractic spinal manipulative therapy for migraine. Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics, Feb. 2000: Vol. 23, No. 2, pp91-95.
It's another sunny July afternoon and your kids are out by the pool, laughing, playing and enjoying the sunshine. (Make sure they’re wearing sunscreen!) You’d love
to join them, but you’re trapped inside again, enduring the pain and frustration
of another migraine headache.
If you suffer from migraines, you’re certainly not alone. They’re relatively common, affecting an estimated 10% of the population. What can be done to get rid of migraines? According to a recent study, chiropractic care may hold the answer.
One hundred and twenty-seven migraine patients (at least one migraine per month) were divided into two groups for comparison. Group 1 received chiropractic adjustments at specific vertebral subluxations determined by the treating practitioner; group 2 served as controls and received inactive treatment (electrical stimulation with no current delivered). Subjects receiving chiropractic adjustments reported substantial improvement in migraine frequency, duration, disability, and medication use following two months of treatment. One in five participants reported a 90% reduction in migraines, and half reported significant improvement in migraine severity.
Are you tired of migraine headaches ruining your day? With conventional over-the-counter medications proving less than effective (and often accompanied by dangerous side effects), it’s time to fight the pain from another angle. To find out more about the potential benefits of chiropractic care, schedule an appointment with your doctor of chiropractic.
Reference:
Tuchin PJ, Pollard H, Bonello R. A randomized controlled trial of chiropractic spinal manipulative therapy for migraine. Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics, Feb. 2000: Vol. 23, No. 2, pp91-95.
poultrygeist said:
Yes, on many occassion.
I even told my doctor that if I had live another day like this I'd rather stand in specific corner of traffic (real bad intersection in my area). That's when I was given zomig and floricet - which have been a Godsend.
I've noticed that too - low carbs (no sugar of any kind) is quite helpful.
Haven't tried Petadolex - I 'll look into it later today - THANKS!
Is it anything lik feverfew? That had no effect on me.
til later
poultrygeist said:
Yes, on many occassion.
I even told my doctor that if I had live another day like this I'd rather stand in specific corner of traffic (real bad intersection in my area). That's when I was given zomig and floricet - which have been a Godsend.
I've noticed that too - low carbs (no sugar of any kind) is quite helpful.
Haven't tried Petadolex - I 'll look into it later today - THANKS!
Is it anything lik feverfew? That had no effect on me.
til later
Accupuncture all the way!!!!! Go to someone who knows their stuff and they should be able to help you! Mine have been cured do to it! I love it love it love it! I understand it isn't for all but I was so sick of being on meds and pain killers I was ready to try anything. Hope this helps
bigguns15
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Can chocolate be a trigger for migraines? I'm not sure if what I get sometimes are migraines. I'll get a pretty bad headache and it will last for 3-4 days. OTC pain relievers can dull the pain, but never take it completely away. The worst part is going to bed with it and waking up with it too.
