Middle of week four of sust/deca.....whens it gonna kick in?

[Themachine01]

Uh huh. Why don't you post your insults with your real username, and not your alter. In anyevent, I guess you would need synthol to actually have 18.5" arms... so that is why you think I'm using it.

In any event 4-5 weeks to fully kick at at those doses seems off a bit. Its 4 weeks and he feels nothing. I'e seen lower doses cycles of (250 sust, 200 deca a week), show noticable changes in first times by week 3 o4 four. In all honesty, he should be feeling something by now. Improved recovery from workouts, better pumps, more energy. At those doses, "fullly kicking in" is not necissary to achieve gains or begin to geel something. 4 weeks and he is seeing nothing or "nada" as he described it. My first bulking cycle was 250 sust and 200 mg deca and by week four I was up around 20 lbs and had already added around 50 lbs to my bench.

Im telling you bro, from personal experience, I have went 4 weeks many times without feeling a thing or gaining a lb before. It depends on the indivisual, I always think my shit is fake, then usually the middle of week 5 I begin to feel it. Even with dbol bro, it takes me a good 10-12 days sometimes before I notice anything.

 

[evander1972]

Im telling you bro, from personal experience, I have went 4 weeks many times without feeling a thing or gaining a lb before. It depends on the indivisual, I always think my shit is fake, then usually the middle of week 5 I begin to feel it. Even with dbol bro, it takes me a good 10-12 days sometimes before I notice anything.

Im the same aswell, I dont normally see any strength gains on Sust until late in week 5 and I dont notice massive gains on Dbol either. I do however put on some water prior to the Sust kicking in which you are doing. Dont worry Bro itll come, If you dont see anything by week 6 then start to worry

 

[gimp]

I know my stuff has been real in the past and when I do deca and sust I personally do not even feel it until week 5....an that's EARLY in my opinion. There's been times when I've run 10 weeks and not even noticed any strength increases or obvious mass. When I hit 12 weeks gains are vey visible. I usually don't pack on tons of mass either...I can't understand why people expect/want 30+ pounds! I tend to lean out a little every cycle, independent of the drugs I'm using and I add mass..but it's not like other guys claim to experience. wait....your cycle will work fine as long as you train and eat right.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Wow, I guess alot of guys are slow responders. Dbol I can feel within 24 hours, tren in under a week.

This must vary alot from person to person, and I don't think its something any of us have attempted to research. Perhpa we should propose a poll, find out how long it takes varies ef members to feel or see gains in certain esters, and see if we can find a correlation. I wonder if most guys who make fast gains, are the guys who gain faster, and are larger. Most of the guys who have picutures up who are making this claim are not exactally mass monsters. I'm sitting at 232 in my avatar pic (5'9"), after 4.5 years of training, and mot bigger guys I know, have always claimed fast results even on slower esters.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325402

Guys, please contribute to this poll. Lets see if we can detect a pattern of some type. Medical information on nadrolone decoante actually says the peak onset after an injection is 6 days. Thus each shot will product a maxium blood serum concentration, which will be maintained for some time with this long ester, around day 6. Of course with several injectinos it will rise slowly, but by weeks 3 or 4 it should be stablized since the frist shot will be almost completely released by this point. Sustanon has a blend of faster esters which should contrinute to much sooner masiumum blood serum levels of the compound.