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This is listed as a research PH for cattle. There is a thread on bb.com of a guy that is making some pretty big claims as to what this product is doing for him. Anyone else look into it yet?
Methyl 1-Test? Something new?
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That's strange I could have sworn that the price was $85 this morning. They must have jacked it up since then.
Yeah I knew it wasn't for cattle I was just pointing that out, this kind of advertising is going to make the Government yank all of our supplements.
Yeah I knew it wasn't for cattle I was just pointing that out, this kind of advertising is going to make the Government yank all of our supplements.
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I try not to insult anyone here, but YOU are the idiot.
After doing diligent research I bought 4 bottles. Can't wait to get going on it. The sides reported so far are far less than standard 1-T. I do agree it won't be out long, even the manufacturer is getting itchy about the FEDs shutting him down. The price for 4 bottles is $60 each (80 caps per bottle), and the effective dose is 2 caps per day so it isn't a rip-off on price either.
pat,
Are you a complete asshole, or do you just post like one
Methylating a compound does not change the compound itself. And I guess I'd rather trust PH experts like Pat Arnold and Bruce Kneller than you and your buds.
And as much of an idiot and waste of life you are, I still don't want you to choke on anything
Are you a complete asshole, or do you just post like one
Methylating a compound does not change the compound itself. And I guess I'd rather trust PH experts like Pat Arnold and Bruce Kneller than you and your buds.
And as much of an idiot and waste of life you are, I still don't want you to choke on anything
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I got this from a posting at BB.com. This is from a study that was on methyl-testosterone and what adding a methyl group does:
"The addition of the methyl group affects both androgenic/anabolic effects and estrogenic sides.
Users produce less test and sperm during a cycle and may not recover normal functions for weeks to months. This accounts for severe loss of any gains while on a cycle.
The modification of the 17-a alkylation imparts some protection against liver metabolism, but also amplifies the negative side effects of the testosterone by making the metabolic byproducts, namely DHT and estrogen, more potent."
Hope this clears up the confusion on whether methylating is just another delivery system.
"The addition of the methyl group affects both androgenic/anabolic effects and estrogenic sides.
Users produce less test and sperm during a cycle and may not recover normal functions for weeks to months. This accounts for severe loss of any gains while on a cycle.
The modification of the 17-a alkylation imparts some protection against liver metabolism, but also amplifies the negative side effects of the testosterone by making the metabolic byproducts, namely DHT and estrogen, more potent."
Hope this clears up the confusion on whether methylating is just another delivery system.
Foxx
You are referring to methyl test....not methyl 1-test, which is totally different. For example, we all know that 1-test cannot aromitize into estrogen, and that the anabolic ratio to standard test (the steroid) is 9.1-16 while the androgenic ratio is only 2.1. So what this means on a mg to mg basis is that methyl 1-test is substancially better for muscle growth than test, with less side effects.
This is why methyl test is so exciting. Even 10 mg per day rivals the best transdermal.
Go back to bb dot com and run a search to see what Pat Arnold (Ergopharm owner) and Bruce Kneller (formerly Brock Strasser with Biotest, now writes for Muscular Development) say about this compound. Kneller has been producing this compound underground for quite some time with great success. Only now has a supp company decided to take the chance to sell this to the general public, before the ban shuts everything down.
Also on the near horizon is Methyl Nordiol and Methyl 1,4 AndroDiol.
You are referring to methyl test....not methyl 1-test, which is totally different. For example, we all know that 1-test cannot aromitize into estrogen, and that the anabolic ratio to standard test (the steroid) is 9.1-16 while the androgenic ratio is only 2.1. So what this means on a mg to mg basis is that methyl 1-test is substancially better for muscle growth than test, with less side effects.
This is why methyl test is so exciting. Even 10 mg per day rivals the best transdermal.
Go back to bb dot com and run a search to see what Pat Arnold (Ergopharm owner) and Bruce Kneller (formerly Brock Strasser with Biotest, now writes for Muscular Development) say about this compound. Kneller has been producing this compound underground for quite some time with great success. Only now has a supp company decided to take the chance to sell this to the general public, before the ban shuts everything down.
Also on the near horizon is Methyl Nordiol and Methyl 1,4 AndroDiol.
Sir Foxx
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I understand the difference between 1-test and methyltest, what I'm trying to point out is the methylating a steroid, any steroid is going to cause differences between it and the parent roid, not just because its a different delivery system. Methylating a roid causes changes in the by-products, whether its test, 1-test, bolendone(sp?), whatever. That is what the study was saying.
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