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Melanotan

I've use it regularly. I have always had problems getting a good tan, but after i started to use mt2 I have no such problems. The results are excellent.

When I start I use the first vial mt2 in 10-14 days (ED injections) in combination with sun tanning every other day. In this period you'll get a good tan (your face will tan first). The next vial I use in 10-14 weeks. Once a week mt2 in combination with once a week sun tanning. Your tan will get better and more even in the next weeks. Doing this you can have a nice tan all year round.
 
My buddy uses it and loves it. The idea of new moles sounds alarming to me though. I wonder what the long term side effects are.
 
I'm a week into my first run with it. A shade darker already without much tanning.

Shit is like viagra. Got constant erections and I havent even started my aas cycle yet
 
Used it and liked it... I do NOT reccommend the 1mg/day loading phase. That is too much any your chances of hyperpigmentation (lips can spot and turn purple, new moles and freckles), in my opinon from my experience, skyrocket when you go from a .5 shot to a 1mg shot. During loading I start the first four days at .5mg/day, then alternate from . 5 to .7mg per day... I did it as kind of a shits and giggles thing, I have gotten a couple new freckles from using it, but generally anything that it causes goes away when I stop use. I would reccomend it, but go easy and take your time...
 
I'm intrested in using it during pct for the sexual side effects
 
love the stuff. first 3 weeks 0.5mg ed then 0.5mg 2X a week for 3 weeks and have a GREAT dark tan. tanning 1 time a week first 6 weeks
skin typII
now i take 0.5mg 1-2X a week (mat-dose) tan 1-2 times a month
 
purchase peptides is a great place for quality MT2 for lab testing.
 
Honestly I dont see much of a libido effect, but I also generally have a pretty high libido anyway... I never lose the morning wood on cycle, and typically my sex drive is not particularly affected by going on or coming off cycle, or being off... its pretty much always "on", so I dont know if its a situation where you only see the effect if there is a deficit... but while (after the 15 or 20 minutes of skin flushing and mild naseau that I always experience - its mild enough that if I just watch TV or something I can ignore and dont notice it) I am always ready to go sexually after a shot of MT2, I am not MORE ready to go than I would have been normally, and I dont really see much of a performance difference. To be honest though I think that is just me, to many people love the stuff for the libido effect - I also dont notice anything different on 12 caps of unleashed/post cycle. If you are only interested in it for the libido get PT141 and you wont have to worry about it affecting your skin... maybe if I was able to run a higher dose I would get some sexual benefit? .5mg/day certainly doesnt seem to do much for me!
 
use pt 141 if you don't want the tan.. but just the sex libido side effects..


I prefer low doses of mt2 like .25 which will not effect a libido boost..
 
thanks guys I get red/dark enough as it is tanning only once a week also I'm a lil weary as too how my sex drive will be coming off without my fave pct supps (hcgen/pshytoserms) lolol
 
Are the side effects of PT-141 the same as Melanotan 2?

With Melanotan 2. Do I still have to tan weekly at the tanning salon in order to achieve my dark skin? Or will using Melanotan 2 give me darker skin WITHOUT me having to go tanning at the tanning salon?
 
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Honestly I dont see much of a libido effect, but I also generally have a pretty high libido anyway... I never lose the morning wood on cycle, and typically my sex drive is not particularly affected by going on or coming off cycle, or being off... its pretty much always "on", so I dont know if its a situation where you only see the effect if there is a deficit... but while (after the 15 or 20 minutes of skin flushing and mild naseau that I always experience - its mild enough that if I just watch TV or something I can ignore and dont notice it) I am always ready to go sexually after a shot of MT2, I am not MORE ready to go than I would have been normally, and I dont really see much of a performance difference. To be honest though I think that is just me, to many people love the stuff for the libido effect - I also dont notice anything different on 12 caps of unleashed/post cycle. If you are only interested in it for the libido get PT141 and you wont have to worry about it affecting your skin... maybe if I was able to run a higher dose I would get some sexual benefit? .5mg/day certainly doesnt seem to do much for me!
same here, I didnt notice libido effects, only tan.
but i have a high libido always anyway.
 
You will want to tan... it will darken you either way, but it doesnt look natural unless you are out in the sun or in a tanning bed, the UV rays need to activate the melatonin release to affect pigmentation really. And you wont turn red... you will get tan, like just a darker shade of your own skin (i.e. browner). Try using a high pressure bed like an Utrabronz (typically 30 minutes a session) and you only have to go a couple times a month if you opt for the pay to tan method... but really just getting out and mowing the lawn with your shirt off once a week, or goin to the lake on the weekend, will do the trick (if you have an acre yard like me!!)
 
You will want to tan... it will darken you either way, but it doesnt look natural unless you are out in the sun or in a tanning bed, the UV rays need to activate the melatonin release to affect pigmentation really. And you wont turn red... you will get tan, like just a darker shade of your own skin (i.e. browner). Try using a high pressure bed like an Utrabronz (typically 30 minutes a session) and you only have to go a couple times a month if you opt for the pay to tan method... but really just getting out and mowing the lawn with your shirt off once a week, or goin to the lake on the weekend, will do the trick (if you have an acre yard like me!!)

Shit! Then I would have to mow my lawn in the nude! LOL Take my shirt off and mow the lawn? Why? So I can be white from the waist down? LOL
 
Alright fuck this... I want to see the sexual benefit!! For yall that claim you went through the roof... how much are you dosing, and how long do the effects last (like, how long before activity do you want to inject, and how long does it last)? Also, are you seeing increased desire, or performance as well? Ive got a half used bottle of MT2, a few slin pins, and a beautiful girl all at the house right now so Im thinkin Im gonna settle this once and for all when I get home from work!!! hahaha

Maybe it really doesnt affect me, but I would hate to just not be using it right... educate me!!
 
I go tanning only once a week to the tanning salon. And with that alone, I'm pretty dark.

So with Melanotan2...how often do I need to go to the tanning salon to maintain the dark color I have in my avatar?

One last thing guys. Is the dosing schedule "for tanning" the same as for "libido enhancing effects"?

Now that I think about it. The tanning effect is pretty cool. Which means I can now save money and time on having to go to a tanning salon.

However! Now that I put some thought into this. I don't think I want to be running around all day long with a high libido. I can't work and do my daily things with sex on my mind all the time. I get cranky and irritable. And I can't get shit done! Not to mention that I don't have a woman with me. So what the fuck am I going to do? Just beat it all day long? Not getting shit done? And being irritable all day long?
 
Alright fuck this... I want to see the sexual benefit!! For yall that claim you went through the roof... how much are you dosing, and how long do the effects last (like, how long before activity do you want to inject, and how long does it last)? Also, are you seeing increased desire, or performance as well? Ive got a half used bottle of MT2, a few slin pins, and a beautiful girl all at the house right now so Im thinkin Im gonna settle this once and for all when I get home from work!!! hahaha

Maybe it really doesnt affect me, but I would hate to just not be using it right... educate me!!


Get to it and post your results. That is what this site is for. For us brothers to use ourselves as test subjects. And then teach the other one what to do and what NOT to do. LOL :)
 
Again, do I "need" to "tan" while on Melanotan2 to get dark?

Or will taking Melanotan2 by itself just make me look darker WITHOUT having to go to the tanning salon?
 
I have been using it for 3 weeks and it does help with tanning an bonners. I am wondering has anyone else felt like shit on it thought? I get headaches, and nausea.....I almost want to avoid it because of that.
 
I have been using it for 3 weeks and it does help with tanning an bonners. I am wondering has anyone else felt like shit on it thought? I get headaches, and nausea.....I almost want to avoid it because of that.

Whoa whoa whoa!!! Hold the fuck up! Headaches and Nausea? WTF?! No fucking way. I'm all about looking good and feeling Grrreeeeeaaat!! LOL

Not about feeling like shit! Headaches and Nausea? No way! How come no one has said anything about these sides?? That's just crazy!

All this for what? Just to look darker? Fuck that! I'll go tanning. And for Boners?
 
Whoa whoa whoa!!! Hold the fuck up! Headaches and Nausea? WTF?! No fucking way. I'm all about looking good and feeling Grrreeeeeaaat!! LOL

Not about feeling like shit! Headaches and Nausea? No way! How come no one has said anything about these sides?? That's just crazy!

All this for what? Just to look darker? Fuck that! I'll go tanning. And for Boners?

Listen maybe it is just me...see if anyone else reports. Ya, bonners are there.

The stuff has simialr characteristics to viagra and if I take a high dose of that I get the same feeling for a day or two. Frankly, it sucks.
 
I've been on it for a week now at .5mgs and I only get nauseous and flushed for a few minutes after injecting it.

This dose has my libido sky high I'd say I have a fairly high libido (except for in PCT).
 
Again, do I "need" to "tan" while on Melanotan2 to get dark?

Or will taking Melanotan2 by itself just make me look darker WITHOUT having to go to the tanning salon?
 
Ive been using it for 3 days now at a does of 250mcg and the only side effects Ive had is a slight facial flush a few mins after injection and a knotted up stomach feeling. I wouldnt say nausea as it didnt make me feel sick but just a little stomach discomfort. Goes away for me in about 20 mins. I havent seen any libido increase and Id like to as im in pct now, but it could be the low dose and only using it for 3 days. And ive been tanning about 3 days a week for about a month now. Hoping this will take the tan up a notch or two
 
Ive been using it for 3 days now at a does of 250mcg and the only side effects Ive had is a slight facial flush a few mins after injection and a knotted up stomach feeling. I wouldnt say nausea as it didnt make me feel sick but just a little stomach discomfort. Goes away for me in about 20 mins. I havent seen any libido increase and Id like to as im in pct now, but it could be the low dose and only using it for 3 days. And ive been tanning about 3 days a week for about a month now. Hoping this will take the tan up a notch or two

Tanning 3 days a week? And no tan?
 
I dont recall saying I didnt have a tan. "Hoping this will take the tan up a notch or two" is what I was referring to. I have a base tan already but Im not one to get real dark. So Im hoping this will help me get darker. Sorry if I wasnt clear earlier.
 
Beware is all I can say.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to tell if you're being sent MT1, MT2, HCG, HGH, or any other similar white wafer in a tiny vial.

My personal experience: I purchased MT2 (or was called MT2) from SL about >6 months ago. Great price..they're a decent sized research company and swear they know their shit. Well, I know mine and what I got caused a disgusting discoloration I have NEVER experienced with real MT2 over years of use. It took me another 6 months for the dark spots around my mouth to fade. It was really embarassing for a while. But even though I stopped taking it as soon as I noticed darkening, it was too late and the symptoms apparently had to run their course. Also, libido improvements? nada. So my impression was I got a junk version of one of the MT options and it certainly wasn't what I wanted.
IF you get the right thing, it will give you an amazing tan and improve libido drastically....but with the lack of quality control and sneaky importation required for the research companies to get their supplies, I doubt anyone really knows or cares what they're sending out. Nobody still in business tests their supplies, and the only company I knew of that did such a practice got shut down years ago. Beware with your purchases~
 
Beware is all I can say.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to tell if you're being sent MT1, MT2, HCG, HGH, or any other similar white wafer in a tiny vial.

My personal experience: I purchased MT2 (or was called MT2) from SL about >6 months ago. Great price..they're a decent sized research company and swear they know their shit. Well, I know mine and what I got caused a disgusting discoloration I have NEVER experienced with real MT2 over years of use. It took me another 6 months for the dark spots around my mouth to fade. It was really embarassing for a while. But even though I stopped taking it as soon as I noticed darkening, it was too late and the symptoms apparently had to run their course. Also, libido improvements? nada. So my impression was I got a junk version of one of the MT options and it certainly wasn't what I wanted.
IF you get the right thing, it will give you an amazing tan and improve libido drastically....but with the lack of quality control and sneaky importation required for the research companies to get their supplies, I doubt anyone really knows or cares what they're sending out. Nobody still in business tests their supplies, and the only company I knew of that did such a practice got shut down years ago. Beware with your purchases~


K to you brother
 
Beware is all I can say.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to tell if you're being sent MT1, MT2, HCG, HGH, or any other similar white wafer in a tiny vial.

My personal experience: I purchased MT2 (or was called MT2) from SL about >6 months ago. Great price..they're a decent sized research company and swear they know their shit. Well, I know mine and what I got caused a disgusting discoloration I have NEVER experienced with real MT2 over years of use. It took me another 6 months for the dark spots around my mouth to fade. It was really embarassing for a while. But even though I stopped taking it as soon as I noticed darkening, it was too late and the symptoms apparently had to run their course. Also, libido improvements? nada. So my impression was I got a junk version of one of the MT options and it certainly wasn't what I wanted.
IF you get the right thing, it will give you an amazing tan and improve libido drastically....but with the lack of quality control and sneaky importation required for the research companies to get their supplies, I doubt anyone really knows or cares what they're sending out. Nobody still in business tests their supplies, and the only company I knew of that did such a practice got shut down years ago. Beware with your purchases~

Bro...we do have some peptide sponsors here that people are satisfied with.....I am not sure what else to say.
 
I would say if someone has ordered something and are seeing good results then order from that place. Unless you work in a university and have access to a NMR machine and get a reading on them but that doesn't tell you how pure that product is either. I've used extreme peptides and precision peptides and they work very well but I haven't tried purchase peptides yet; however, many of the people I know have and they say it's legit so I would say there g2g
 
Again, do I "need" to "tan" while on Melanotan2 to get dark?

Or will taking Melanotan2 by itself just make me look darker WITHOUT having to go to the tanning salon?
simple answer: yes you need to tan/ get uv rays.
even if you dotn go an tan what you do get will be the light you get threw your clothing.
go tan 1 time a week for a few months atleast
 
simple answer: yes you need to tan/ get uv rays.
even if you dotn go an tan what you do get will be the light you get threw your clothing.
go tan 1 time a week for a few months atleast

I tan only once a week as is. And pretty dark. Shit! What will this melanotan do to me now? Make me black? Lol
 
Fat loss is good. But I'm pretty lean as is with all the activities and change of diet I have done.

Darker? Hmmm. I'm already pretty dark as is. Don't mind getting just a tiny bit darker. How much darker we talking about?

Libido. My libido has boosted big time. What now? Am I going to start raping women? LOL
 
It will definatly make you darker plus fat loss and increased sex drive

Are the side effects in Melanotan2 the "same" as in PT-141?

Also, you already told me what Melanotan2 was meant for.

What about PT-141? What was it intended for really?

One last thing...will I be able to fall asleep on Melanotan2?
 
What about us pasty Irish guys who quite literally cannot tan? My whole life, it has been sunburn, then back to white/freckles. If any of my pigment-challenged brothers have tried this, I'd love to hear your experiences.
 
Are the side effects in Melanotan2 the "same" as in PT-141?

Also, you already told me what Melanotan2 was meant for.

What about PT-141? What was it intended for really?

One last thing...will I be able to fall asleep on Melanotan2?
1) I would amazing they would be similar as their structure is similar
2) Im not sure what you mean by what was it intended for if your asking what it does, PT-141 is a metabolite of MT-II that lacks the C-terminal amide function-stripping away tanning properties. It jacked your libido levels as well as sexual preformance way up.
 
Why does pt-141 cost more than melanotan? Doesn't make sense to me. If pt-141 does what melanotan does but WITHOUT the tanning. Wouldn't that make pt-141 cheaper???
 
Are the side effects in Melanotan2 the "same" as in PT-141?

Also, you already told me what Melanotan2 was meant for.

What about PT-141? What was it intended for really?

One last thing...will I be able to fall asleep on Melanotan2?

Carth PT-141 Is like a supercharged viagra,the dosage you use Melanotan For will not even compare.
PT-141 is strictly for libido purposes, some people can't take viagra or cialis due to flushing of the skin or they just don't respond to these two pills, PT-141 is give you a garuanteed super boner in a matter of 30 minutes.and yes there are no sleep issues.

Another thing about Melanotan is If you have freckles or moles expect them to become more prominent,even after the treatment is stopped.
 
Carth PT-141 Is like a supercharged viagra,the dosage you use Melanotan For will not even compare.
PT-141 is strictly for libido purposes, some people can't take viagra or cialis due to flushing of the skin or they just don't respond to these two pills, PT-141 is give you a garuanteed super boner in a matter of 30 minutes.and yes there are no sleep issues.

Another thing about Melanotan is If you have freckles or moles expect them to become more prominent,even after the treatment is stopped.

Crap!!! I have few tiny freckles on my face. They are chicken box marks. And burn marks. Those will get darker???
 
Melanotan II is not like viagra more than SERMs is like AI. The results may be the same, but the mechanisms are not the same.

Viagra works on the vascular system. MT2 actually increases arousal. This is way Mt2 increases arousal in both men and women.:D

9 of 10 men will get sexual arousal and spontaneous erections from MT2

MT2 has a long list of potential sides. Abdominal pains and nausea is quit normal. My Gf can not use MT2 due to this. She gets it bad.

Skin discoloration is not unusual. Blue lips and vomiting occurs in some cases.
 
Melanotan II is not like viagra more than SERMs is like AI. The results may be the same, but the mechanisms are not the same.

Viagra works on the vascular system. MT2 actually increases arousal. This is way Mt2 increases arousal in both men and women.:D

9 of 10 men will get sexual arousal and spontaneous erections from MT2

MT2 has a long list of potential sides. Abdominal pains and nausea is quit normal. My Gf can not use MT2 due to this. She gets it bad.

Skin discoloration is not unusual. Blue lips and vomiting occurs in some cases.


Screw that shit! Now I don't want this stuff. Nevermind!
 
I tan only once a week as is. And pretty dark. Shit! What will this melanotan do to me now? Make me black? Lol
well then it might LOL.
or you might beable to cut out the tan to 1 time a month or two and STILL be dark as hell.

what i said before was for somone thats VERY white anmd wanting to get the tan then maintain, but with a skin typ that can tan well (min is type2 / im from portugal but can also go VERY white with out any rays over a winter)
 
Melanotan II is not like viagra more than SERMs is like AI. The results may be the same, but the mechanisms are not the same.

Viagra works on the vascular system. MT2 actually increases arousal. This is way Mt2 increases arousal in both men and women.:D

9 of 10 men will get sexual arousal and spontaneous erections from MT2

MT2 has a long list of potential sides. Abdominal pains and nausea is quit normal. My Gf can not use MT2 due to this. She gets it bad.

Skin discoloration is not unusual. Blue lips and vomiting occurs in some cases.

i never got any of this except soem very mild nausia
 
Yeah me to only some very mild nausea, and of cause sexual arousal and spontaneous erections

How long does the nausea last for? Is it ONLY after injecting it?

And the sexual arousal part (damn..mines is already kind of high...can't imagine even more higher) is this only for a little while AFTER taking the stuff? Or all day long?
 
same here, I didnt notice libido effects, only tan.
but i have a high libido always anyway.

i deff noticed the libido bro..didnt notice the weight loss thought

mt11 gave me some sick boners

also gave me a darker tan that i ever dreamed i could get.. shit is insane!
 
Guys...please let me know if I did this correctly. Somehow I think I fucked up!


Got my melanotan2 yesterday. Please let me know if I did this correctly?

1-I injected 2 full cc's of BAC water (so I I filled up 2 insulin syringes and filled up my 10mg vial of Melanotan2) into the melanotan2 vial.

2-Then I injected (sub-q) what I "think" is .50mcgs?!!

3-On the insulin syringe I pulled up fluid until where its marked 10 on the syringe. That would be .50? Correct?

About 30 minutes later passed. And it just felt like I had to use the potty. So I did. Then I took a shower. And then I felt really sleepy.

Did not feel sick at all. Just more like I didn't want to be fucked with. And I didn't want to do anything anymore.

Got into bed and slept all night long on the same side I got into bed. NEVER MOVED! LOL.

Woke up this morning with my usual morning wood. But that was it.

So far so good? Did I fuck up?
 
Inject for the 2nd time. And this time I didn't get queezy or sleepy. Still not super horny like everyone here speaks of.
 
Melanotan II

Just started this a few days ago @ 500 mcg ED. I was a bit quesy/ flushed the first time with some minor wood, but not much else. I haven't had any boner issues since, but I plan to take it at night anyway just to be on the safe side. Arms look a little darker already, but the face is still red. The Test injections make my head/neck red (rash) so I'm hoping the Melanotan will mask this a bit.

I only plan to run this during the summer and don't want to get too dark, as I normally look pretty pasty. I'll likely hit the tanning booth after a few weeks to darken up and get rid of any farmer tan.
 
Started using Melanotan 2 about 2 weeks ago. Checked out different forums where users are experiencing sides such as moles, and white spots. I am Getting good results from it. Don't really want to F@#*K up my skin for good though. That would suck!
Has anyone used Melanotan 1? It sounds safer.
 
Fat loss is good. But I'm pretty lean as is with all the activities and change of diet I have done.

Darker? Hmmm. I'm already pretty dark as is. Don't mind getting just a tiny bit darker. How much darker we talking about?

Libido. My libido has boosted big time. What now? Am I going to start raping women? LOL
make no mistake about mt2 is the real deal!! if u lay in the sun to long u will become VERY DARK.. perhaps darker then u wish to be

is this bad? no.. use it responsible..

good news it works well!
 
Beware is all I can say.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to tell if you're being sent MT1, MT2, HCG, HGH, or any other similar white wafer in a tiny vial.

My personal experience: I purchased MT2 (or was called MT2) from SL about >6 months ago. Great price..they're a decent sized research company and swear they know their shit. Well, I know mine and what I got caused a disgusting discoloration I have NEVER experienced with real MT2 over years of use. It took me another 6 months for the dark spots around my mouth to fade. It was really embarassing for a while. But even though I stopped taking it as soon as I noticed darkening, it was too late and the symptoms apparently had to run their course. Also, libido improvements? nada. So my impression was I got a junk version of one of the MT options and it certainly wasn't what I wanted.
IF you get the right thing, it will give you an amazing tan and improve libido drastically....but with the lack of quality control and sneaky importation required for the research companies to get their supplies, I doubt anyone really knows or cares what they're sending out. Nobody still in business tests their supplies, and the only company I knew of that did such a practice got shut down years ago. Beware with your purchases~

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Used it and liked it... I do NOT reccommend the 1mg/day loading phase. That is too much any your chances of hyperpigmentation (lips can spot and turn purple, new moles and freckles), in my opinon from my experience, skyrocket when you go from a .5 shot to a 1mg shot. During loading I start the first four days at .5mg/day, then alternate from . 5 to .7mg per day... I did it as kind of a shits and giggles thing, I have gotten a couple new freckles from using it, but generally anything that it causes goes away when I stop use. I would reccomend it, but go easy and take your time...

I tend to agree, but it all depends on your skin tone. There's a chart that can be found on the net based on skin type and body weight. I recommend using half the recommendation of the chart.

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What about us pasty Irish guys who quite literally cannot tan? My whole life, it has been sunburn, then back to white/freckles. If any of my pigment-challenged brothers have tried this, I'd love to hear your experiences.

IMO MT2 is perfect for you. It will make your freckles and moles dark first, but your skin will catch up. Limit your exposure to the sun until you really get a good base tan. I say that because you can still burn while on MT2 if you get too much exposure. Take pictures along the way so you can gauge your progress.

For most people 0.50mg per injection is a good dose. A 10mg bottle would obviously give you 20 doses. That would be your loading phase (0.50mg/daily). Maintenance dosing after that would be around 0.50mg twice a week.

Here's a more accurate conversion:

A = total mg of melanotan II in vial
B = your weight in lbs
C = (0.0025 * B) = mg per injection
D = A / C = total injections
E = D * 0.3-0.5 = amount of diluant to add to vial

For metric users, apply the kg to lbs conversion ...
B = 2.205 * your weight in kg

Here's an example ...

A = 10mg in vial
B = 200 lbs
C = 0.0025 * 200 = 0.5mg per injection
D = 10mg / 0.5mg = 20 injections
E = 20 * 0.3cc = 6cc diluant

Purchase Peptides has the best deal going on MT2 right now that I've seen. Also the best prices on just about everything else they carry too!
 
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