Matrix Reloaded is Genius!!!

[ariolanine]

You must not be a cunning linguist because spoken word does not always correspond to its definition. Have you read anything y Shakespeare or the novel "Beowulf?" They use structure that seems wrong, but it actually perfectly fine.

I know that you do not use many of those words, so how would you know what is the proper way to use them in spoken English? I also, do not use them everyday but I encounter them on an almost daily basis.

Shakepeare's work and Beowulf were written in two different evolutions of English. Beowulf in Old English and Shakespeare in early Modern English with Middle English separating the two.

The script from the Matrix and the architect scene in particular are written in modern English, more specifically American English. "Concordantly" is a 15th century term (middle english). From a linguistic standing (written or spoken) interjecting that word into a modern english sentence structure is wrong. The other sentences I pointed out contain similar vocabulary errors as well as grammatical ones.

My guess is that they wrote the script like anyone else wood. Then they used a dictionary and thesauras to replace as many words as they could with more obscure terms. Not clever, just wrong.

 

[john937]

If you guys are thru insulting each other, it would be a lot more interesting discussing what the Architect MEANT rather than how he said it.

Somebody explain how taking the door to Zion leads to the extermination....
Sorry I don't get it.

 

[2Thick]

Shakepeare's work and Beowulf were written in two different evolutions of English. Beowulf in Old English and Shakespeare in early Modern English with Middle English separating the two.

The script from the Matrix and the architect scene in particular are written in modern English, more specifically American English. "Concordantly" is a 15th century term (middle english). From a linguistic standing (written or spoken) interjecting that word into a modern english sentence structure is wrong. The other sentences I pointed out contain similar vocabulary errors as well as grammatical ones.

My guess is that they wrote the script like anyone else wood. Then they used a dictionary and thesauras to replace as many words as they could with more obscure terms. Not clever, just wrong.

Obscure?

So if it is not modern, then it is wrong?

Good logic.

 

[ariolanine]

Obscure?

So if it is not modern, then it is wrong?

Good logic.

No. You cannot combine old english, middle english, and modern english. You use one or the other. That is what makes the arcitect's speech wrong and what makes Beowulf and Shakespeare right.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

No. You cannot combine old english, middle english, and modern english. You use one or the other. That is what makes the arcitect's speech wrong and what makes Beowulf and Shakespeare right.

You fail to realize that it is still a movie, where the setting is way ahead of our time. If my memory serves me right, they are in 22nd century. The english language goes through transformations with time. With time, the language changes and average IQ increases. The movie is ahead of our time so to say that the Architect is speaking improper english is false.

 

[The Eugenius]

I think the parties on both sides of the grammar debate would agree that the Architect's grammar is not flat-out wrong, but there do exist more concise ways his lines could have been written in.

Sort of like real life eh?Does the word 'Government' ring a bell?

Maybe the Wachowskis are trying to tell something to the American public? I do see some correlations between life in the United States and the Matrix.

 

[2Thick]

I think the parties on both sides of the grammar debate would agree that the Architect's grammar is not flat-out wrong, but there do exist more concise ways his lines could have been written in.


Maybe the Wachowskis are trying to tell something to the American public? I do see some correlations between life in the United States and the Matrix.

I am just wondering why it is that when people do not understand something, it has to be wrong.

Getting to the important part of your reply, I see this movie on the same level as Robert A. Heinlein's 1959 novel that inspired the 1997 movie "Starship Troopers."

If anyone does not know about the real message behind the movie "Starship Troopers," then do a search and bask in the glory of knowledge.

 

[bignate73]

My guess is that they wrote the script like anyone else wood.

Not clever, just wrong.

you said "wood"....like the material for building? i could be wrong, but isnt that second phrase a fragment, there is no subject. "Its" would make it work, me thinks.

 

[ariolanine]

you said "wood"....like the material for building? i could be wrong, but isnt that second phrase a fragment, there is no subject. "Its" would make it work, me thinks.

Word.

 

[bignate73]