Masterone & Winstrol stack update...

[Deleted member 33117]

Two weeks into my 50 mg masterone/50 mg winstrol/20 mg prop ed stack, and only down 3 lbs, but several people have commented that I look abit bigger and leaner. So far I'm seeing a little mroe vascularity, and my tri's seem to be fuller. I definately feel harder to the touch, but I'm still holding a film of water. My strength is still very good despite reduced calories and carbs.

This is my first experience with masterone, and I like it. It seems to be helping me make some strength gains while slowly cutting. I'm a bit concerned that I am holding a bit of water and my nips look a bit puffy despite being on 20 mg of prop every day (that is only 140 mg of test a week).

 

[Slyder190]

Sounds like a hot stack. Are you running an anti-e or anti-a? I'd make sure I am and then bump the test. That's just me of course. Glad to hear things are successful over-all.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

No, I'm out of letro. The thing is I was using 50 mg of prop ed, with 25 mg of tren every day recently after running out of letro and my nips were not puffy. Having reduced my test, and using two compounds taht are not aromatase substraits I shouldn't be having this as all. My powder supplier has a very good rep, so I don't think the compounds are something other than what he advertised. Perhaps I need to aquire a bit of letro again.

 

[str8cubano]

is this orbit labs stuff?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

No, its homebrew.

 

[Davs]

140mg/week test can easily be you too much. Who says that won't cause a problem without an anti-e?

 

[Fonz]

Two weeks into my 50 mg masterone/50 mg winstrol/20 mg prop ed stack, and only down 3 lbs, but several people have commented that I look abit bigger and leaner. So far I'm seeing a little mroe vascularity, and my tri's seem to be fuller. I definately feel harder to the touch, but I'm still holding a film of water. My strength is still very good despite reduced calories and carbs.

This is my first experience with masterone, and I like it. It seems to be helping me make some strength gains while slowly cutting. I'm a bit concerned that I am holding a bit of water and my nips look a bit puffy despite being on 20 mg of prop every day (that is only 140 mg of test a week).

Try this...it's the ultimate stack for granite hardness:

1. Fina at 75mg ED
2. Masteron at 75mg ED
3. Anavar at 50mg ED
4. Proviron at 50mg/day

No need for test, as the proviron is there. Therefore no chnace whatsoever of itchy or puffy nips.

You "can" substitute the anavar for 50-100mg Winstrol/day but your HDl will go below < 10. Not good.

 

[wolfs]

What are the primary differences between Winstrol and Masteron??

Also Fonz, you mentioned that your Anavar could be substituted with Winstrol but if so your HDL would go below 10, what is HDL and how do you check what level it is at?

 

[Latamier]

I have just recently started using proviron as an anti-E as fonz has layed out with my cycles as well. I like it 10 times better than nolvadex. Actually seems to help out the ole libido. As far as that film of water you are holding, I would just jump on some aldactone to take care of that.

 

[Fonz]

What are the primary differences between Winstrol and Masteron??

Also Fonz, you mentioned that your Anavar could be substituted with Winstrol but if so your HDL would go below 10, what is HDL and how do you check what level it is at?

Both Winstrol and Masteron are DHT derrivatives, therfore they do not make you hold water, therfore they make you look harder.

Problems with both:

1. As DHT derrivatives they are both VERY hard on the hairline

Problems with winstrol:

1. Very hard on joints, and it's double-chemical bonded 17-aa structure is quite hepatioxic for the liver.
2. As it's structure is crystalline, its detection time is impossible to predict. Not good if you're tested.
3. It's the WORST AAS for the good "HDL" cholesterol. Not uncommon for people to go below a value of 10 for HDL while on Winstrol.

Bonuses with both:

1. As Masteron is not 17-aa, no problems with hepatoxicity.
Masteron is a strong androgen, your strength will go up.
2. Winstrol is actually more anabolic than androgenic(200/33 therapeutic ratio), therfore its a great anti-catabolic AAS.

In order to check your HDL levels, you would need to get a cholesterol/lipid blood test. they are usually quite cheap.