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jon1320
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THC just bind to a receptor to get you high.. how the hell could it effect muscle growth? It doesn't... I toke sometimes before.. but mostly after the gym.
And i blaze all the time at work... and i've got some size
As far as alcohol, Alcohol dehydrates your body, which has a some impact on your muscle because muscle is made of water, etc etc. In moderation anythings ok though
And i blaze all the time at work... and i've got some size
As far as alcohol, Alcohol dehydrates your body, which has a some impact on your muscle because muscle is made of water, etc etc. In moderation anythings ok though
GrizzlyDog
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Hi,
Yes..I know - first post. I used to be a member here about 3 years ago (I was "Griz". Stopped working out for the last 2 1/2 years or so - back into it now...never mind.
Anyway, short answer to this question that has come up repeatedly over the years is... NO. Nada, none whatsoever. Marijuana has little or no effect on muscle growth.
Smoke all you want.
The only effect that would diminish your capacity is the fact that you're putting smoke in your lungs.
Argue til you're blue in the face over this one. 3rd party academic and medical evidence is solid and conclusive. Never mind the idiots that quote the propaganda put out by the DEA, ONDCP, or other agencies funded fully or in part by these self-interest organizations.
Find the hard core med studies and again answer is "No".
And FYI - I don't smoke the stuff - never liked getting high.
Yes..I know - first post. I used to be a member here about 3 years ago (I was "Griz". Stopped working out for the last 2 1/2 years or so - back into it now...never mind.
Anyway, short answer to this question that has come up repeatedly over the years is... NO. Nada, none whatsoever. Marijuana has little or no effect on muscle growth.
Smoke all you want.
The only effect that would diminish your capacity is the fact that you're putting smoke in your lungs.
Argue til you're blue in the face over this one. 3rd party academic and medical evidence is solid and conclusive. Never mind the idiots that quote the propaganda put out by the DEA, ONDCP, or other agencies funded fully or in part by these self-interest organizations.
Find the hard core med studies and again answer is "No".
And FYI - I don't smoke the stuff - never liked getting high.
M
Megalomaniac
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my workouts are never as good high but I love to burn right after, for me that is the only negative effect it has on lifting.
Powerbuilder333
Timeout? No, timeouts are for Plats
According to Muscle and Fitness it lowers your natural testt production. It's also a photo estrogen I believe.
I suppose if your using gear, you won't notice those sides.
Dialog between Samuel Jackson and Bridget Fonda in the movie "Jackie Brown"
SJ: "Smoking that will rob you of your ambition".
BF: "Not if your ambition is to watch TV and get stoned".
I was a pot head for 10 years. I don't recomend it as a lifestyle - just my personal opinion based on experience.
I suppose if your using gear, you won't notice those sides.
Dialog between Samuel Jackson and Bridget Fonda in the movie "Jackie Brown"
SJ: "Smoking that will rob you of your ambition".
BF: "Not if your ambition is to watch TV and get stoned".
I was a pot head for 10 years. I don't recomend it as a lifestyle - just my personal opinion based on experience.
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ego boner
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jon1320 said:
WTF are you talking about?? alcohol hinders protein synthesis so it makes your muscles grow much slower than if you didn't drink...
as far as getting high--- the only effects are psychological ie motivation reducing, except for maybe some prevention of as much oxygen being absorbed by your blood stream due to smoke inhalation...
I am a pothead and all of my workout buddies are as well--- one of the best things while on cycle is smoking for 2 reasons 1. you eat a LOT more-- just keep it clean.. 2. it removes the insomnia factor that i get while on test based AA.S
EGO!
jon1320
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ego boner said:WTF are you talking about?? alcohol hinders protein synthesis so it makes your muscles grow much slower than if you didn't drink...
as far as getting high--- the only effects are psychological ie motivation reducing, except for maybe some prevention of as much oxygen being absorbed by your blood stream due to smoke inhalation...
I am a pothead and all of my workout buddies are as well--- one of the best things while on cycle is smoking for 2 reasons 1. you eat a LOT more-- just keep it clean.. 2. it removes the insomnia factor that i get while on test based AA.S
EGO!
I said in moderation... read the whole thing before you get all hyped up to flame someone. Eat a fat steak and have a beer post workout. It's not going to kill you, but it may make you feel better. I highly doubt a few beers here and there is going to have much effect on your bodys ability to grow...
Hell, the oldest lady in the world would drink 1oz of Alcohol at night, and she claims thats how she lives so long.
This doesn't have much to do with BB but obviously a moderation matter.
moderation
Griz1
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Mights and maybes really don't mean much. Pot is one of the least studied, but most commonly used drugs out there. However, that being said most of the useful and vetted research that is done is not publicized as it often conflicts with the propaganda that is spouted by supposed "experts" - usually an agency or group that has something to gain by keeping marijuana illegal (ie. government).
The WHO published a very good uninfluenced study on marijuana but when it was released in the US it was censored in various sections because of conclusions which made it out to be relatively harmless and benign at occasional use levels.
As for sports... Lots of pro athletes, lots of Olympic athletes, and lots of icons actually smoke the stuff. In fact relative to the national percentages - as a demographic/cohort athlete's use of the drug ranks only slightly less than the national.
Smoke, eat, or vaporize your weed all you want. If you do it enough to interfere with your workouts and goals - well then I think you have a problem that has little to do with the pot and more with an abuse issue of any substance (food, booze, gambling, heroin...anything).
The WHO published a very good uninfluenced study on marijuana but when it was released in the US it was censored in various sections because of conclusions which made it out to be relatively harmless and benign at occasional use levels.
As for sports... Lots of pro athletes, lots of Olympic athletes, and lots of icons actually smoke the stuff. In fact relative to the national percentages - as a demographic/cohort athlete's use of the drug ranks only slightly less than the national.
Smoke, eat, or vaporize your weed all you want. If you do it enough to interfere with your workouts and goals - well then I think you have a problem that has little to do with the pot and more with an abuse issue of any substance (food, booze, gambling, heroin...anything).
Certain forms of marijuana affects muscle growth indirectly, because in high enough quantities it hinders concentration and ability to perform heavy compound movements such as deadlifts and squats.
Many people can not handle drugs and use them irresponsibly. Commercial forms of cannabis tend to be high in THC and CBD- mixed with tobacco a joint will severely deplete energy and suppress appetite.
(Treat drugs with respect, and/or stay clean if you are committed to weight training!)
Many people can not handle drugs and use them irresponsibly. Commercial forms of cannabis tend to be high in THC and CBD- mixed with tobacco a joint will severely deplete energy and suppress appetite.
(Treat drugs with respect, and/or stay clean if you are committed to weight training!)
I’m sure you people are growing your own non-commercial super strains without side effects? Is that really possible because it’s all the same in high enough doses…
Alright, so my initial statement was misleading. As a bright-eyed, bushy tailed teenager I might have felt slightly antsy, energized and slightly psychotic after a smoke, but I can’t remember, it’s all a big blank patch punctuated with ash and roaches. This feeling wears off; I’m left feeling numb and irritable; a sure sign of a bad habit.
For the most part people have little self respect if they smoke. If a person doesn’t take great care of their self, chances are they won’t use drugs responsibly. I don’t see many people smoking just a tiny bit, it’s always excess.
Far more often than not, it isn’t the drug that is the problem, it’s the individual. People can’t manage their own desires effectively. If we don’t mind abusing ourselves, it follows that we’re not going to care a great deal about anyone else.
Alright, so my initial statement was misleading. As a bright-eyed, bushy tailed teenager I might have felt slightly antsy, energized and slightly psychotic after a smoke, but I can’t remember, it’s all a big blank patch punctuated with ash and roaches. This feeling wears off; I’m left feeling numb and irritable; a sure sign of a bad habit.
For the most part people have little self respect if they smoke. If a person doesn’t take great care of their self, chances are they won’t use drugs responsibly. I don’t see many people smoking just a tiny bit, it’s always excess.
Far more often than not, it isn’t the drug that is the problem, it’s the individual. People can’t manage their own desires effectively. If we don’t mind abusing ourselves, it follows that we’re not going to care a great deal about anyone else.
J
jerseyrugger76
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I duuno how anyone can smoke up and then proceed to lift. About all I'm good for is staring at the Cartoon Network with a stupid ass grin on my face. 
Mercere said:
You find my writing disagreeable? Perhaps you're attached to my ideas out of self doubt? No big deal, people do different stuff. I don't go around telling people how they should go about living- I'm not all that religious. The dominating worldview must prevail because all others are wrong. Two contradictory ideas can't possibly exist at the same time, can they?
Similarly you will be miserable in life seemingly attempting to control personal opinions on the internet. I've got better things to do than sit around wasting my time drinking. There are definitely much better things to do than admitting how I feel isn't good enough and attempting to self medicate.
nodiggitydave
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Very interesting to read. Stevius I can agree with you on some levels, but perhaps it is the stoners you know, appear to be like this, or you are generalising.
As a pothead myself, I disagree with the self medicating part. I don't feel like i'm making up, or even sulking about anything when I'm having a smoke. I'm just opening my mind up, reflecting on my day and relaxing. Personally I don't feel burning plant material, thus relaxing the body, is that much different from drinking a freeze dried coffee bean.
In practice, the times I've gone to the gym stoned have been unenjoyable. Paranoid, and lazy, not really wanting to be there, not maxing out. Afterwards though I think it does have it's place, relaxing the muscles, getting a better mind to muscle connection (especially with stretching) and almost certainly the appetite increase.
I must say though it would take a very strict person to eat very clean when you're munching at such a rate. I know, for me anyway, clean foods get eaten in excess and the cheat meals almost definitly get scoffed!
Anything in excess is bad, it's obvious, even the greatest things. Sex, Food and yes even lifting! Moderation is 100% the key.
As a pothead myself, I disagree with the self medicating part. I don't feel like i'm making up, or even sulking about anything when I'm having a smoke. I'm just opening my mind up, reflecting on my day and relaxing. Personally I don't feel burning plant material, thus relaxing the body, is that much different from drinking a freeze dried coffee bean.
In practice, the times I've gone to the gym stoned have been unenjoyable. Paranoid, and lazy, not really wanting to be there, not maxing out. Afterwards though I think it does have it's place, relaxing the muscles, getting a better mind to muscle connection (especially with stretching) and almost certainly the appetite increase.
I must say though it would take a very strict person to eat very clean when you're munching at such a rate. I know, for me anyway, clean foods get eaten in excess and the cheat meals almost definitly get scoffed!
Anything in excess is bad, it's obvious, even the greatest things. Sex, Food and yes even lifting! Moderation is 100% the key.
smash_machine
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mmmmmmmmmmm..........cannabis
