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I saw this piece to fit perfectly on the shoulders that connects to the sqauting bar at fitnessfactory.com it replaces the pad. Let me know it's better than the good ole cushion pad.
MANTA RAY- the shoulder piece for squating. Have anyone used this?
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booger
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Manta Ray
Junk. Throws your balance off especially when your bottomed out on the squat. Doesn't feel very natural either. I've still got one I've been trying to sell for years. Along with a lot of other gimmiky things that I've accumulated in the last 30 years.
Junk. Throws your balance off especially when your bottomed out on the squat. Doesn't feel very natural either. I've still got one I've been trying to sell for years. Along with a lot of other gimmiky things that I've accumulated in the last 30 years.
Well I have one, but it rarely gets used. The only time I use it is on max effort day when I do low box squats. I personally can't stand it because it increases the distance from the hips to the bar. However this is precisely why I find it effective...because it makes it more difficult by changing the bar placement.
As for the pad...no never...never. I actually like having the big red marks on my rear delts. I wear them as badges of honor.
As for the pad...no never...never. I actually like having the big red marks on my rear delts. I wear them as badges of honor.
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plifter
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If you need a pansy pad on your back then you aren't placing the bar in the right spot. It should fit comfortably in the groove on the back of your shoulders.
supersizeme
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the manta ray would be really effective when coupled with pink ankle weights. 
DoctorHERB
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Dog, that shits for women. Those and the old-school pads. Any man using that stuff should be sent back to the Nautilus equipment!
I used to love it. If you place it low enough on your back/shoulders I think it feels comfortable as fuck. I quit using it so I would have a better feel for the bar when I went into powerlifting, but I liked it alot. I know guys say it's for pussies, but they can't say shit if your squattin more than them, so I say order it and if it helps you push more weight then more power to you, and if not then trash it.
plifter is right though, you might not be placing the bar in the right place.
plifter is right though, you might not be placing the bar in the right place.
mike peters
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The Dude, I bet my traps will blow you away. Now tell us that you never used a belt, glove or lifting straps. Then tell us that you're pro. If someone can add a tool to their arsenal, you know damn well that doesn't make a pussy. Post your pics or claim the pages you're on in the magazines, or else SHUT YOUR HOLE.
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Warik
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mike peters said:
I used to use a pad, then I discovered the plastic blue thing and used that. Then, one day everyone was using the pads and I couldn't find the Manta Ray, so it was just the iron vs. my traps.
It didn't bother me, so I kept squatting the same way for the next few weeks. The growth on my traps was better than anything I've experienced with shrugs, although, I still do shrugs.
I highly suggest you start lifting raw. The benefits are worth the extra effort. Any extra "tool" in your arsenal is just another way of robbing your body of another way to grow more powerful.
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Re: Re: Re: MANTA RAY- the shoulder piece for squating. Have anyone used this?
So, absolutely no work is done on the traps during a squat? Sounds good. I guess I'll leave my traps completely relaxed next time I let the iron ride me.
Thanks, guy. You're a true whiz.
-Warik
BigJay81 said:
So, absolutely no work is done on the traps during a squat? Sounds good. I guess I'll leave my traps completely relaxed next time I let the iron ride me.
Thanks, guy. You're a true whiz.
-Warik
No the traps aren't worked to any degree when you do Squats.
So its not possible to gain mass on your traps while doing squats.
Down the line the added comfort of the pad or manta-ray. will feel beter.
I myself don't use them but I will no reason to cause added stress on the body. We as bodybuilders stress ourselves to the max as it is.
Well some of us do
So its not possible to gain mass on your traps while doing squats.
Down the line the added comfort of the pad or manta-ray. will feel beter.
I myself don't use them but I will no reason to cause added stress on the body. We as bodybuilders stress ourselves to the max as it is.
Well some of us do
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Warik
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BigJay81 said:
When you squat, or rather, when I squat, there is stress put on my traps. I must compensate for that stress by tightening my traps in order to avoid the bar permanently implating itself in my neck.
Based on your logic, holding on to a 315lb loaded bar until it drops will do nothing for your forearms.
In the mean time, I'll go be dumb and cause added stress on the body.
Bye.
-Warik
Wrong again sorry
Your traps don't hold the weight,,,
If in fact you did hold a bar stacked with 315lbs yes it would be added stress but only stress it will add no mass. Only joint problems because holding a bar with 315lbs is dumb unless you are doing cleans or snatchs.
The bar should "rest" across your shoulders!
Rest across.
The weight sits on your shoulders you don't lift the weight with your traps!!!!!
Only your calves, quads, hams, back, abs. thats it.
Your traps don't hold the weight,,,
If in fact you did hold a bar stacked with 315lbs yes it would be added stress but only stress it will add no mass. Only joint problems because holding a bar with 315lbs is dumb unless you are doing cleans or snatchs.
The bar should "rest" across your shoulders!
Rest across.
The weight sits on your shoulders you don't lift the weight with your traps!!!!!
Only your calves, quads, hams, back, abs. thats it.
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Warik
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I guess my traps must get sore from shrugging so much at foolish posts like these instead of from the bar.
You clearly know everything about this subject. I ph3@r your l33t skillz.
Why is it that people with small traps have trouble squatting, then? (Rhetorical question, BTW. No need to answer.)
-Warik
You clearly know everything about this subject. I ph3@r your l33t skillz.
Why is it that people with small traps have trouble squatting, then? (Rhetorical question, BTW. No need to answer.)
-Warik
Thats ok that your wrong!
You need to visit another forum besides the chat to realize you don't know everything.
You obviously don't use A.A.S. but we do have a nice Workout Forum with alot of natural people.
If you need further help with this subject feel free to ask.
That just about sums it up doesn't.
You need to visit another forum besides the chat to realize you don't know everything.
You obviously don't use A.A.S. but we do have a nice Workout Forum with alot of natural people.
If you need further help with this subject feel free to ask.
That just about sums it up doesn't.
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Warik
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BigJay81 said:
I don't have a wrong, and even if I did, your sentence still wouldn't make sense.
BigJay81 said:
I already know that I don't know everything, which is why I only discuss things that I know.
BigJay81 said:
And you obviously do - what does that have to do with anything?
BigJay81 said:
No we don't. I used to post there, but then got tired of everyone having flame wars over ass to floor squatting and "bench presses" that weren't really bench presses because the chest never got touched. I'd rather post here and argue about things about which I actually give a damn, like politics, reverse discrimination, and things of that nature.
BigJay81 said:
Will do. Thanks for your concern.
I'll stop posting to this thread unless another subject comes up, for I have better things to do than participate in a one-sided flame war over something as frivolous as what muscles are affected by a squat.
-Warik
Veni-Vidi-Vici
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Shut up, quit your crying, build some traps and get rid of the pads! V3
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