Man i hate these mindfucks on and after a pct:(

[marcu_s]

In on my second week after have been doing my 4 week pct.
My pct was some nolva,post cycle and hcgenerate.
Did a 8 week cycle of test p.

Now my weight is down about the same as it was when i started
My energy is down but, what can i expect, i have come off a cycle.
Strenhgt has gone down a few reps.
I feel small when i see me in the mirror.
Feeling kind of down right now.
Nothing wrong whit the libido, thanks to hcgenerate, which im off now but, its there.

Still high in cals, 200 more than i ate when i was on the cycle, bulking.
Tired of eating ,just want to do a cut so i dont have to eat as much.
Got some dieselbolan and tren tfo in the closet....but wont touch it, but man i want to.
When would be a good time for that?

Anyway, just wanted to wright something, need some cheering words guys

 

[pip88]

In on my second week after have been doing my 4 week pct.
My pct was some nolva,post cycle and hcgenerate.
Did a 8 week cycle of test p.

Now my weight is down about the same as it was when i started
My energy is down but, what can i expect, i have come off a cycle.
Strenhgt has gone down a few reps.
I feel small when i see me in the mirror.
Feeling kind of down right now.
Nothing wrong whit the libido, thanks to hcgenerate, which im off now but, its there.

Still high in cals, 200 more than i ate when i was on the cycle, bulking.
Tired of eating ,just want to do a cut so i dont have to eat as much.
Got some dieselbolan and tren tfo in the closet....but wont touch it, but man i want to.
When would be a good time for that?

Anyway, just wanted to wright something, need some cheering words guys

Thats all your pct was bro?

 

[lookinfit75]

In on my second week after have been doing my 4 week pct.
My pct was some nolva,post cycle and hcgenerate.
Did a 8 week cycle of test p.

Now my weight is down about the same as it was when i started
My energy is down but, what can i expect, i have come off a cycle.
Strenhgt has gone down a few reps.
I feel small when i see me in the mirror.
Feeling kind of down right now.
Nothing wrong whit the libido, thanks to hcgenerate, which im off now but, its there.

Still high in cals, 200 more than i ate when i was on the cycle, bulking.
Tired of eating ,just want to do a cut so i dont have to eat as much.
Got some dieselbolan and tren tfo in the closet....but wont touch it, but man i want to.
When would be a good time for that?

Anyway, just wanted to wright something, need some cheering words guys

What about HCG? You not have have restarted your HPTA properly without it. Also, in order to stay big, you gotta eat big so unless you're will to do that, you're going to lose your size no matter what kind of cycle and PCT you do. Food=size.
What's that famous quote of Ronnie Coleman's "Don't be mad cuz you aint a Bic Mac. Be mad cuz you didn't eat 2!"

 

[needtogetarmy]

Buy some real HCG.

 

[wolfman87]

i find that sustain alpha really helps my mood and keeps me focused during pct.

 

[lookinfit75]

i find that sustain alpha really helps my mood and keeps me focused during pct.

Me too but you need the real deal to get the spuds working again. I love Sustain but recognize the need for HCG as well.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Bro, your post mostly contain "I feel", "I'm feeling", "I want". All of that, are emotions, and they are irrelevant. They can perfectly be controlled by reason. Do what is convenient and necessary. Seems like you have some sort of hormonal imbalance, and it would be hard to diagnose without blood test.

 

[marcu_s]

offcoures i used hcg, did that during the cycle 250iu to times a week the whole cycle.
eating big still. just wanted to clear my mind.

 

[veneto82]

how much did you put on and how much did you lose?

 

[marcu_s]

went up to 94-95 kg morningweight and now maybe 89kg.
but have done everything right regarding food, pct and training so..maybe i shouldnt be so down about it.

 

[needtogetaas]

Me too but you need the real deal to get the spuds working again. I love Sustain but recognize the need for HCG as well.

lmfoa as people quickly jump to the only drug he is not taking yet. If he has used hcg during cycle and used sustain alpha,hcgenerate, for pct. The people would jump right for "o man you need nolva or clomid for pct should have used that man".

I thought nolvadex was the shit guys????!!!! I thought it was the wounder drug guys???? wtf is going on it was only a short 8 weeks small cycle of test prop for god sakes wtf is going on here???!!!
My is that massively powerful,o so wounderous, can't fall me now nolvadex not working? How can this be?

It amazes me how so many brain dead people spew out the same pre generated bro'ology bullshit over and over again. Just going from one drug to the next with there advice..

Could there be any other reason his pct's not going perfect? NAAA it just has to be because he did not use hcg just has to be. LMFOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THE BEST, MOST AWESOME, MOST BEAUTIFUL, MOST SUPER DUPER SPLENDID PART WAS HIS REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!

HI have been using hcg during the cycle bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaahahahahhahaha

O wait give me a second hold on!



Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaahahahahhahahaaaaahahhahahahaalmaobwahahahahahhaaaaarotflmoa


God did that feel so fucking good. WOW I FEEL GOOD!!!!! MAn this thread made my whole week for god sake.


This just might be one of the best examples of how pre generated " o you have to use nolva/clomid" then if that don't work " o well thats because you did not use hcg during the cycle" just got a n0 proceeded by a damn no go!!! A big fat fail

Ya I spelled nolva wrong fuck it not fixing it lol..


The way I see it he has done just about everything right in the way of what drugs/sups he could be taking. It sounds to me like a lot of feeling are involved and of course the inevitable fact then. You will lose some when you go into pct (for the most part) then when you come off pct you will prob lose a little more (for the most part) ... I think switching to more cals with lower reps more weight training and less training. Focusing on allowing the body recovery time that was not needed well on cycle. I think this could help a lot. I also thing that once he came off pct switching over to bridge till his next cycle would also help a lot. Using short 4 week blasts of sarms well he is using the bridge is also very effective and lots of people have loved this new method of helping to keep the gains.

Anyway Sorry if I sounded like a dick man. You know I am the last person who means anyone around here any harm or ill will. You are a cool cat and you know I love ya. KARMA YOUR WAY MAN!!!!.

 

[needtogetaas]

Buy some real HCG.

LMFAO you need to read the post above too lolol. I love you vet but I just have to rub this all in ya guys faces you know I do!!!!!!!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

Me too but you need the real deal to get the spuds working again. I love Sustain but recognize the need for HCG as well.

O god I gots to keep reading this. MAn I sides are almost splitting in half from all the laughter I cant stop. No really I can't. Guys thanks so much for this I needed this.

 

[needtogetaas]

Bro, your post mostly contain "I feel", "I'm feeling", "I want". All of that, are emotions, and they are irrelevant. They can perfectly be controlled by reason. Do what is convenient and necessary. Seems like you have some sort of hormonal imbalance, and it would be hard to diagnose without blood test.

OMG a breath of fresh air in the pile of stink. DJ my friend you are the man bro.

 

[needtogetaas]

Also I would like to add a very good way to keep the "weight" on after a cycle would be to add need2slin ( yes need2slin) to your pct. Guys when you come off cycle you lose sooooooo much more then what just nolva/clomid and some hcg during cycle can ever dream of making up for. just a few of these things is better nutrition retention and carb turn over,muscle energy that you would get from this also. Your muscles ability to store larger amounts of energy,atp, and glucose is also lost. Need2slin and gear combined is perfect for this. I don't make supplements for nothing and I sure and hell don't just do it for the money. I do it because its what I love. Helping people,filling peoples needs, and a god old "fuck ya need2 you rock" is more then enough reason for me my friends.

 

[needtogetaas]

Who wants a free plat???????? Send me a msg if I have never given you one. I will hook it up because I love you guys.

 

[KenBraggofCarroltonGA]

LMAO. Dang needto, everyone is striving to be like you. The all source for info and great prods. Of course the guys prob is the supplement he is NOT taking. I have learned so much from this thread. Most of my advice is derived from what I've learned from needto(and radar), like most of us spreading info, probably. wheeww, my side is still hurtin from needto's reaction. TOTW?

 

[Nelson Montana]

There are lots of factors that can cause a drop, even with PCT, but I'm going to say that nolva is the culprit. It can kill mood and libido, which in turn kills enthusiasum to train ad the gains go bye bye.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I completely lost my appetite on my pct as well

 

[NinjaTurtles]

What DJ said.

Keep your head up. Also, I agree with Need2 with the rest. You may be overtraining trying to keep your weight up and not giving yourself recovery time needed.

 

[needtogetaas]

I completely lost my appetite on my pct as well

This will happen. I know for me dermacrine ( not to be used for pct) and sustain have always helped bring back a good appetite. The loss of appetite can be do to a few factors. 1. yes nelson is correct the only thing nolva and clomid covers is recovery of the hpta. However at the cost of just about every other aspect of pct you can think of. Mood,appetite,drive,focus,motivation,as well as other health killers and a drop in igf. So ya it works for one but kills everything else. Kind of retarded to use a lot of it or any of it if you don't have to when you think about it.

HA HA I knew i would see nelsone in this thread. I bet you were like fuck ya needto!!!!!!!! Why? well because neslon and I have been seeing this same kind of crap over and over again for years.

Hcgnerate should take care of almost any problem caused by nolva or clomid though. So I do not think his pct or on cycle hcg/sups are the problem. It is something else and also just the simple fact that some times ya just have a shitty recovery no matter what you took or take. It happens guys, all the time.
Need2slin and gear will deff keep the muscle weight on through pct though and I comprise you that.


Soon I will be putting together My first ever Ultimate on cycle stack,Ultimate pct stack, and Ultimate on cycle/pct stack. This will be the first set of product ever that will cover every single aspect of on cycle support and pct you can think of. Stacks that I will stand behind so strongly that I will give a double money back policy on every one sold. I will soon have the right stack of products to do this with. Just waiting on a few products of mine to hit the market..

 

[Nelson Montana]

This is the difference between what Needto is doig ad what other supplement companies do. Most compaies fid out what's available, throw a label on it and sell it. We work together, NOT to see what everyone else is selling, but what we've found to work through years of experimenting and experience.

For PCT, right now there's HCGenerate, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, GEAR and BRIDGE. Those are AMAZING aids in recovery and maintaining gains. But remember -- you still have to be consistant, use the drugs ad the products properly, and have the right frame of mind. I get the feeling some guys take a couple of pills and think it's all cool, then they lose a couple of pounds, get bummed and give up. This is BODYBUILDING guys. It's a lifestyle and it takes commitment and it takes balls!

Soon, with ON-GUARD and Lo-Proclac it'll be possible to have every aspect of bodybuilding and enhancement covered -- in a way that other companies don't even know about. But I have a feeling they'll be copying it.

 

[lookinfit75]

Wow... No good deed goes unpunished I suppose. Thanks for the reaming.

 

[needtogetaas]

Wow... No good deed goes unpunished I suppose. Thanks for the reaming.

O you are a good bro man. you know I mean no harm. Look I just gave you some crowns, now you are a king among men