Making changes to how Karma works - we want your feedback.

[blut wump]

Bombs given in C&C spilling over to other boards has always been considered undesirable and many wish that a bomb given in C&C would stay there rather than messing with a member's posts site-wide.

As for the rest of it, think of it like joining an online fantasy game. You're always going to see high-level characters around, some benevolant and some less so. To some extent, in C&C, the Karma of C&C-vets helps keep newbs in line while they learn the ropes. In the AAS forum, the mods pounce on crap a lot quicker than in C&C where drama is the norm.

Any bullying should be reported to a mod.

 

[Deterass]

Sure I'm kidding. I guess I just wrote that paragraph for the hell of it. What does this site say on the mainpage? EliteFitness the Steroid and Bodybuilding Site. I think George seems to agree that is the primary focus of this site. Everything else that goes along with it is gravy. If you would look closely at my previous thread, you would see that I said that without those two main topics, nothing else would be here.

lol! Pull your head outta your ass and look a the big picture.

I think George's primary focus is to actually make a profit from the site and one of the ways its done is by plat memberships.Whether it be in the C&C forum or the Anabolic forum it doesn't really matter.

I stumbled across this site looking for supplements back in 2001 and i'm still here supporting the site even though i mostly post in C&C.
Sooooooooo it doesn't make a fuck why we are Plat members just as long as we're supporting the site.

The "we need to be rewarded more because we post in the anobolic forum"(in a third grade voice) is some childish bullshit.

 

[slat1]

Disregarding the C&C forum and the people in it is a mistake. I spent time talking to plenty of people in there in regards to AAS, diet, body building competitions etc. There are NPC judges in there, promoters etc.
I for one try not to spend as much time in the AAS board as I used to when I saw things getting out of control in there. You see newbies using large amounts of AAS and you have people encouraging it. When you comment on it a lot of people get pissed and gang up on you. So what is the point.
I spend most of my time in C&C, the picture forum and the ladies forum. Aside from that, I probably get 15 to 20 IM's a day from Elite members on MSN or AIM. I am helping them with their diets etc. I also spend time helping them with personal problems and just encouraging them to work harder for their results. I do it because I like to help people. I don't get any karma for it either..
Like a lot of others I started in the AAS forum and then moved on. It in no way means I have lost my knowledge or have stopped learning.
Further, if George did a quick study of where most of his platinum members came from I bet it would be from C&C, followed by the womens forum. What I am getting at is the Anabolic forum is far from the bread and butter. As a matter of a fact it costs George the most due to the liability of having it.
I truly feel this whole discussion is occuring because of a few people who have a lot of karma that throw it around redding people. We as a community should patrol this. To some extent we do. Probably not enough. The new guys are suffering.
If it was up to me I would not change a thing. I have a decent amount of karma. Its not from gambling. I lost a ton at that. Its not from hosting bookie events. I lost MILLIONS at that. Most of it is from people transfering it to me at the karma store. The smallest amount is from good posts.
Spend time on the site and make good posts and you will make friends. When you make friends your karma grows... its a pretty simple formula. Why change it?

Who has a lot of karma and has a problem with the system?
Is this whole issue as simple as the haves and have nots?

I also feel the arguement that you judge who to trust by their k is not a good one. I read and study posts. That is how I determined my resources for information. I did that from day one. I never looked at people karma.

 

[cranny]

GS,
You say you want to help the vets on the anabolic boards out. So I say, instead of focusing on karma, I think we should look at having something similar to the chairman of the board memberships to recognize all the vets (who are not mods) who consistently prove themselves by giving solid advice and helping others on the anabolic, training, and diet forums. We already have crown karma symbols… I say give the selected vets diamonds or something different to distinguish the experienced vets from the others.

And it needs to be something were ALL the proven vets should get the title. There should also maybe be some sort of requirement, like being with the site for a year or something. And not just one person should sit and decide who should get the vet titles, but have everybody who thinks they deserve it put in to be decided amongst all the mods (not mods of the chat boards).

Then the karma doesn’t matter so much because you know who is an experienced vet as opposed to some joe that’s just talking out his ass. I know there was some elite mentor thing that might have been similar in idea to this, but no one even knows who those guys were.

Good suggestion. What say you GS?

 

[black sheep]

Good suggestion. What say you GS?

I agree - Something other than Karma to distinguish the vets in the AAS forum.

 

[slat1]

I agree - Something other than Karma to distinguish the vets in the AAS forum.

I think that is a good idea. Maybe you can put their names in gold or something.
In order to achieve what ever is decided the person should be recomended. Then their posts should be looked over in that forum to make sure they are of a certain standard.
This should be something that is earned over time.
I think it should be a process that is taken seriously. New guys and girls will be listening to these people as if they are right about everything.
There should probably be a panel that decides.

 

[the-short-one]

I think that is a good idea. Maybe you can put their names in gold or something.
In order to achieve what ever is decided the person should be recomended. Then their posts should be looked over in that forum to make sure they are of a certain standard.
This should be something that is earned over time.
I think it should be a process that is taken seriously. New guys and girls will be listening to these people as if they are right about everything.
There should probably be a panel that decides.

that's a fantastic idea. it would put a lot of trust back into the AAS forums.

 

[slat1]

that's a fantastic idea. it would put a lot of trust back into the AAS forums.

Nice avatar. You want me to rub your back don't you! LOL

 

[Outtlaw]

I agree - Something other than Karma to distinguish the vets in the AAS forum.

It's good to know Im not the only one feeling this way. At least now I know Im not off on another plain with my thoughts

 

[black sheep]

It's good to know Im not the only one feeling this way. At least now I know Im not off on another plain with my thoughts

Well George? What do you think?