George, in your PM, you touched on a point that bothers me. You talked about how we (people other than those on the c&c board) can't keep up with the chat-bros. That is true. While c&c is a poplular board, this site is primarily for aas and training information. The anabolic, board should be awarded more so when karma is transfered. I.E. Person A sends Person B karma on the anabolic board and it is worth more than if those same people on the c&c board sent some karma. To all those that will disagree with me, remeber this. Without the anabolic board, NONE of these other boards would be here. The anabolic board is the bread and butter of EliteFitness.