UMMM...NO.....georgie24 said:needsize loves this stuff and he has the best build on elitefitness. if its good for him then it must be good all around
Mavy said:Sometimes there is just nothing better than a full box of KD, and eat it right out of the pot. I used to down a box of KD with a protein shake asap after my leg days. Like NS mentioned, its cheap and good. I wouldnt base it as one of my "core" meals, but I dont see a problem eating the stuff after workouts occasionally. While trying to bulk that is, or if you are an ecto. There is a lot of everything in it... protien carbs and fat.
georgie24 said:here's the profile
carbs 48 g
fat 2.5 g
protien -10 g
total 400 calories
per serving
hammertime30 said:I like this better "straight pasta without the cheese"
carbs 52g per 40g serving
fat 0g
protein 2
I eat pasta products strictly for carbs and not for fat or protein
BodyByFinaplix said:400 cals and 48 grams of carbs for how much money though? I get rolled pearled barly for like 80 cents a lbs. Which gives me about 6 dry cups. Each containing around 150 grams of carbs and 573 calories. The glycemic index of barely is lower than any other grain, and the only foods the seem to beat it it are peanuts (due to the high fat content) and plain yogurt.
Processed foods are NOT the best buy for the $$$.
Lowest said:What about ramen noodles then? The ones my brother and I used to get ran about 550-600 calories per package, and they cost 18 cents each. About 10g's of fat, 10g's of protein, and no sugar. Actually, I should buy that stuff again since I'm poorOh and mac and cheese with some ground beef in it is one of my all-time favs!
Mavy said:Sometimes there is just nothing better than a full box of KD, and eat it right out of the pot. I used to down a box of KD with a protein shake asap after my leg days. Like NS mentioned, its cheap and good. I wouldnt base it as one of my "core" meals, but I dont see a problem eating the stuff after workouts occasionally. While trying to bulk that is, or if you are an ecto. There is a lot of everything in it... protien carbs and fat.
wnt2bBeast said:whats KD? is it like a canadian thing![]()
i like velveeta![]()
ok we got them here too..lolneedsize said:kraft dinner
Just use common sense man.georgie24 said:why is everyone so anti mac and cheese? i dont understand why the bashing...do you guys have links or articles saying its just as bad as mickey d's???
wtf!
georgie24 said:why is everyone so anti mac and cheese? i dont understand why the bashing...do you guys have links or articles saying its just as bad as mickey d's???
wtf!
JavaGuru said:I'll have a mac and cheese dinner as my first post workout meal(lowfat, no butter and skim) along with a protein shake. I'll also have pancakes but I'm trying to consume 150g of carbs postworkout when bulking. An hour later I'm eating hot oat bran cereal and some blueberries with a milk isolate shake(aroung 60g carbs) to stabilize blood sugar.
needsize said:SC, you work with some big ass bodybuilders, just out of curiousity, do the guys you work with eat clean when trying to add mass? I have tried it, and there simply arent enough calories in "clean" food for me to add any weight to my frame
~SC~ said:Yes they eat clean w/a cheat meal 1 to 2 times per week.
There are plently of Kcals in clean food. Clean food has the same macros available as does junk food.
~SC~
and then in the next breath you said how fat you were but didn't care........so that's the trade-off......TheOak01 said:I buy whole wheat macaroni cook it up,mix with tuna,then pour melted cheese on it.
prob not a ton better,but it keeps things tasty,and gives me 2-3 meals with 30g pro each meal,more if I drink milk with it
needsize said:SC, you work with some big ass bodybuilders, just out of curiousity, do the guys you work with eat clean when trying to add mass? I have tried it, and there simply arent enough calories in "clean" food for me to add any weight to my frame
well, maybe not 7kcals, but he gets the point.........BodyByFinaplix said:??? I can eat 7000 cals of clean food without feeling over-stuffed.
Bran987 said:damn I was reallly rooting halfway through this thread I thought we actually had a chance of being allowed to eat M&C
until SC showed up![]()
needsize said:trust me, I'm not genetically gifted, not when it comes to gaining mass
there is a piece of the equation that I probably should have explained, I'm on meds for brutal acid reflux, and it causes bad stomach bloating on most days. Which makes it very difficult to eat as I am still painfully bloated from the last meal when its time to eat again. So eating enough calories clean is almost impossible for me, but the less "clean" foods tend to be more calorie dense, which means I can actually fit enough calories in my stomach
drbones2 said:You on nexium needsize? I just got prescribed that shit the other day.. havnt filled it yet because i dont want to fuck with my body...
I started adding a cup of lactose free skim milk first thing in the morning, cut out diet pop COMPLETELY, cut out coffee and pop a couple calcium magnesium at some point in the day... heart burn has been reduced a fair ammount in only 2 days.
Jor-El said:I like M&C also, but if I am going to cheat it will definitely be with pizza. I was wondering what kind of pizza would be the best to eat? I have to try and stay somewhat healthy.
I don't currently have any cheat meals, but that's making it a little hard on the wife. She is constantly wanting to have pizza or Taco Bell.
Lowest said:Oh and mac and cheese with some ground beef in it is one of my all-time favs!
georgie24 said:i think you guys are suffering from analisys paralisys (sp) there are alot of obsessive dieters here thats why i posted this in anabolic section. you people need medication.
" rolled oats" lmfao!!!
NJRipped said:Georgie
Maybe some of us are a little obsessive about our diets. Then again, some of us aren't too embarrassed to post our pics. lol Nice avatar by the way. I wonder what he has in store for you next.![]()

wnt2bBeast said:i knew he had some secret ingredient lol
I wouldnt go around telling people that bro....dude is a complete fragggggggggg~SC~ said:John Basedow is on SWOLE!!!!!!!!!!!
~SC~![]()
wnt2bBeast said:also not everyones ideal physique is john basedow..to grow you will put on some fat..ive said it before, "ANYONE" can get ripped to absolute shreds in 5 months with dedication/diet/cardio..yet almost no one can build a monster in 5 months..if you want to remain sub 200 with washboard abs and squat 185 and hang with the cardio bunnies thats cool..me ill be in the back of the gym with chalk all over me![]()
wnt2bBeast said:also not everyones ideal physique is john basedow..to grow you will put on some fat..ive said it before, "ANYONE" can get ripped to absolute shreds in 5 months with dedication/diet/cardio..yet almost no one can build a monster in 5 months..if you want to remain sub 200 with washboard abs and squat 185 and hang with the cardio bunnies thats cool..me ill be in the back of the gym with chalk all over me![]()
You got any pics bro?wnt2bBeast said:im not small but i dont think im huge either..i love food (eggs,steak, chicken i like em all)..i find it VERY difficult to keep eating to get big..i eat 10-15 egg whites every morning and sometimes again at nite..juice aint the answer bro..its just merely one of the tools to get you there..
again its a matter of what ones ideal physique should be..being ripped at 170> thats basically an average guy with average strength who went on a diet and did some cardio..nothing wrong with that if thats your goal
wnt2bBeast said:im not small but i dont think im huge either..i love food (eggs,steak, chicken i like em all)..i find it VERY difficult to keep eating to get big..i eat 10-15 egg whites every morning and sometimes again at nite..juice aint the answer bro..its just merely one of the tools to get you there..
again its a matter of what ones ideal physique should be..being ripped at 170> thats basically an average guy with average strength who went on a diet and did some cardio..nothing wrong with that if thats your goal
JKurz1 said:I wouldnt go around telling people that bro....dude is a complete fragggggggggg
~SC~ said:I didn't mean he was on one of SwoleCat's Programs.........is that what you thought? LOL...........I don't have a program called "SWOLE"..............
~SC~
Bran987 said:so it's a secret..........
please send me info on how I can get in on the new "SWOLE" program I don't care what it costs
thanks-bran

no pics..dont plan on posting any either..i may post a squat video though as it seems the low back is recovering pretty good..JKurz1 said:You got any pics bro?
wnt2bBeast said:NJ our physiques are the complete opposite would ronnie show up at the O in mid season shape? im on an extended bulking phase and dont plan on cutting any time soon..what would pics prove? im not some little punk kid im 30 and dont post on these boards to call people out and then back out..i post what i have been through and what has given me results..diet is defnitely not my forte..as im sure you can tell from my posts your bf is lower than mine so again what would pics prove..these are my stats
5'10 245 15%
NJRipped said:This isn't exactly a "Mr. O" pic showing. lol No, you don't post to "call people out" but you also don't mind telling others they have an easily attainable, average build that anyone who diets and does a little cardio can achieve. lol
When you insult someone else's physique then you damn well better be willing to post pics of your own or expect to be called on it (at least by me). It's all good though, I predicted you wouldn't and just like all the others before you, I predicted correctly.![]()

wnt2bBeast said:dont forget that amazing hair piece he has..it looks so natural![]()
JKurz1 said:NJ - why start a comotion about pics on every thread? Shit is old.....you're a skinny, lean, dude who has worked hard to get there....even if it does mean "looking like the average joe" Question - can people tell you work out when you are fully clothed? Than in their minds, you're avg. just like them. No one realizes how hard it is to stay lean and ripped, but then again, no one realize how hard it is to be big, massive and strong, yet not another fat ass.....
Let bygons be.......too each his own......pic videos or none, who really cares?
nice edit lolBodyByFinaplix said:Ick!![]()
wnt2bBeast said:nice edit lol
ive never seen this guy in the training forum ever..i guess he just sticks here in the diet forum..keep up that basedow look..
anytime you wannna learn how to lift feel free to pm me..
im done arguing but i will say this once my low back is 100% i plan on posting a squat vid i will be glad to email it to you..then you can post your anorexic pics..then we can all be happy because your a shredded string bean...
you win..youre so much better than me
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thanks for echoing my thoughts, HOWEVER, 20% is over the edge...........when I say bulk, I mean around 12% MAX..........over 15% in my opinion is FAT and we tend to use the "bulking" excuse to leisurely.......I have little respect for the 20%bf dude who benches 350, esp. in the 240-250lb range.....GhettoStudMuffin said:6 packs are impressive. A lean semi-muscled physique looks good, but in street clothes you can barely tell they lift. It's definitley not a WOAW, that's an obvious lifter kinda thing.
I respect a lean physique and all the diet restrictions that go with it, but a big strong looking physique with some chub is more impressive and a big muscular physique is the most impressive.
I see alot of guys in the gym that have 6 packs and have "some" muscle. I see a "few" guys that are big and strong that have some chub. I rarely see a big, strong and muscular physique walking around although the big strong guys could definitely be that way in the future with a well planned and executed diet. The same cannot be said for the smaller guys with the 6 pack.
I almost had a 6 pack at 10% BF, but I only weighed 156lbs in the Navy. If I had lifted I might have weighed 165lbs.
What do you see more, 6 packs or +315lbs benches? 6 packs or +500lbs squats. 6 packs or +500 deadlifts. 6 packs or 100's DB's for seated press?
A 6 pack is definitely easier to acquire and takes less time than it takes to get big enough and strong enough to lift those kind of poundages or greater. I'd rather bench 450, squat 750, deadlift 700 and big numbers in all the assistance lifts and have possibly +20% BF because I know once I cut up I'm still gonna be BIG and strong "with" a 6 pack, and alot bigger and stronger than the guys that always worry about having a 6 pack.
A 6 pack is cool, but without alot of muscle and strength to go with it, it's not that impressive imo.
lolJKurz1 said:Alright internet muscles.....enough before this gets ugly............
JKurz1 said:thanks for echoing my thoughts, HOWEVER, 20% is over the edge...........when I say bulk, I mean around 12% MAX..........over 15% in my opinion is FAT and we tend to use the "bulking" excuse to leisurely.......I have little respect for the 20%bf dude who benches 350, esp. in the 240-250lb range.....
great intellectual post............CrazyK said:
CrazyK said:
wnt2bBeast said:lol
who said i was afraid to take my shirt off? if you read what i wrote you would know that i dont like my pic taken..this is something that has affected me since i was a kid..and fyi i was a skinny kid up until 13 when i sprouted a lot earleier than most kids..
I work out because i enjoy it..i like training my lifts..for me strength=size..i bet you dont squat?
glad i can make you laugh..im not sure why you want my pic so bad..im not gay..i like women..i really dont have a dig cam..my brother does though..NJRipped said:LOL Bro, you had me rolling on the floor with that excuse. I never heard of someone being camera shy about having a body (not face) pic being taken - well, except maybe Rosanne. lol Stick with the "I don't have a digital cam" excuse - it's old but still quite effective for these boards. Why don't we just end this and agree to disagree - you're only getting in deeper.![]()
NJRipped said:LOL Bro, you had me rolling on the floor with that excuse. I never heard of someone being camera shy about having a body (not face) pic being taken - well, except maybe Rosanne. lol Stick with the "I don't have a digital cam" excuse - it's old but still quite effective for these boards. Why don't we just end this and agree to disagree - you're only getting in deeper.![]()
15%+ bf guys on this thread: get your fat ass on a diet... who cares how big and strong you are if your ass looks like 150 lbs of chewed bubble gum??? Come on, get with the program and clean your sloppy ass diets up.
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