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M1T vs Superdrol for strength gains
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M1t is crap and harmful. The gains are not worth the horrible side effects.
JV
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Lets pretend theres no sides, what are the gains compared like?
JV
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Cant do that for 6 months to a year. Will PM for more info if you want.
But if Superdrol is supposed to be the king of strength gain, then whats its bigger meaner older brother M1T like?
mr.sagat
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superdrol the king of strength gain? That's news to me.....
M1T is a monster in terms of bulk mass in a short time, I've heard about many a pound a day stories. But, M1T is has such terrible sides that no one seems to be able to tolerate more than 3 weeks of it......Methyl tren is supposedly sick for an oral, and cost about the same or cheaper than M1T. Why don't you want to take anadrol? If I cycle it with nolva I don't get too much bloat, and at 50mgs I get no visual side effects either.
M1T is a monster in terms of bulk mass in a short time, I've heard about many a pound a day stories. But, M1T is has such terrible sides that no one seems to be able to tolerate more than 3 weeks of it......Methyl tren is supposedly sick for an oral, and cost about the same or cheaper than M1T. Why don't you want to take anadrol? If I cycle it with nolva I don't get too much bloat, and at 50mgs I get no visual side effects either.
bren565
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JV
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EVERYONE on here says that Superdrol and Beastdrol are the #1 for strength and beat out even Anadrol. I was just under the impression...
But yes, I have ALWAYS wanted to, and I WILL run Anadrol and/or Methyltrienolone in a few months (4-12). Cant yet because I fear screwing myself over at the police academy if they give polygraph test.
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mr.sagat
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It's interesting that some people claim that beast/superdrol gives better strength when mrsupps himself says on the profile that "advertises" it that it gives less strength than anadrol. If you claim that beast or super beats anadrol on a mg to mg basis that is bunk also. The body can take a higher dosage of a bombs, big deal. Also if you wanted to go that route Methyl Trienolone craps on every oral steroid out there for mg to strength gains, since you only take about .5 or .75mg a day of it....
Littleman784
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Well I'm Methyl Trienenbolone 2nd wk and I'm not impressed.!!! At this moment I'm considering dbol!! But I will wait and finish the 4wk plan I had.
balancefighter
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Still have 12 days of beast left.
I went from working with 80pd db on military press to 100s and it will be 110s by the end im sure of it
Went from 315x1 last week did 325x2 and am confident I will be able to hit 315x5 by the end
Dead went from 480 to 545
Like I said I still have almost two weeks left. So far I am very impressed. There is a thread around here where needtogetaas says beast is the mother of all strength gainers
I went from working with 80pd db on military press to 100s and it will be 110s by the end im sure of it
Went from 315x1 last week did 325x2 and am confident I will be able to hit 315x5 by the end
Dead went from 480 to 545
Like I said I still have almost two weeks left. So far I am very impressed. There is a thread around here where needtogetaas says beast is the mother of all strength gainers
mr.sagat
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I've been on 50mg of anadrol for 5 days now and have gone up an average of 10% in all of my lifts. I do mainly strength specific training, so that might manipulate my strength gains at a different level than strength from a bodybuilding program since recovery is totally different between the two....In those 5 days, I have gained 9 pounds (3500 cals, with nolva to try to minimize bloat that is not within the muscle)these are a couple of my lifts so there is a better understanding of the difference. I get no financial gain for praising anadrol, so please understand my opinion is not biased.....
One week ago
Full rep slow strict seated concentration curl with dumbbell 57.5 x1.
One handed wrist curls 137.5 3x3
One arm dumbbell row 120 3x3
One week later with about 4-5 days of 50mg Drol in my system
Full rep slow strict seated concentration curl with dumbbell 62.5 x2
One handed wrist curls 140 3x6
One arm dumbbell row 120 3x5
This is my 2nd cycle with anadrol in it, and this time around I am not getting any unwanted side effects. I am sure I'm getting water retention because of the obvious weight gain in such a short period, my whole body is up anywhere from half an inch to an inch everywhere, and my waist measurement has not gone up at all so far.....
One week ago
Full rep slow strict seated concentration curl with dumbbell 57.5 x1.
One handed wrist curls 137.5 3x3
One arm dumbbell row 120 3x3
One week later with about 4-5 days of 50mg Drol in my system
Full rep slow strict seated concentration curl with dumbbell 62.5 x2
One handed wrist curls 140 3x6
One arm dumbbell row 120 3x5
This is my 2nd cycle with anadrol in it, and this time around I am not getting any unwanted side effects. I am sure I'm getting water retention because of the obvious weight gain in such a short period, my whole body is up anywhere from half an inch to an inch everywhere, and my waist measurement has not gone up at all so far.....
JV
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Thank you for clearing that up. My hearts set back on Anadrol now... And maybe some MT
The only thing I fear about Drol is that some people say it acts very nasty if ran with test or other aromatizing aas. What do you think about this? are you running it solo?
Thanks so much
mr.sagat
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I have ran it both ways. My first time was with 500mg a week of sustanon. I went from 196 to 232 in about 7 weeks. Obviously not all lean, lol These are the sides I got that I blamed on anadrol
1. Insomnia for about the first week
2. Upset stomach in pm hours for the first week
3. Pretty bad bloat at the end of cycle, anadrol bloats my upper abdomen and gave me a moon face at the end of cycle.
4. Nipple irritation at the end of my cycle. I figured it was because of the elevated estrogen with the lowered test, I took about 100mg of clomid for a few weeks, and took about 15mg of tbol for about 5 days to get that instant test boost, when irritation started, it took care of my problems
Ok,I am a wuss because I cannot inject myself. My girlfriend does them for me, and she is out of the country right now.
Everyone and their momma seems to think that doing steroids like anadrol or dbol alone is taboo, but these same people seem to be ok when someone uses superdrol, katanadrol or diesel alone. Test is a great base, and it is going to maximize your gains with orals and give you libido which some orals kill.
But, from my personal experience you can still get considerable gains from oral only and keep a good amount of gains if pct is executed properly. With all that being said, all I am taking right now is anadrol @ 50mg Here are my experiences 6 day in it.....
Side effects
1. MINOR headache on day 1
2. Insomnia for 2 days
3. Elevated libido (I kind of want it to decrease since my girl is not here, I'm not a cheater)
Here is a before and after pic of me before the anadrol/sust and after. First pic is 196, the second pic was 225, (I did get up to 232 though)
Before http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/nismoz33turbo/precycle.jpg
After http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/nismoz33turbo/post.jpg
I'll gladly help you some more if you have questions, but I am not a bodybuilder claim to be or train like one. lol So I might not be able to help you much!
1. Insomnia for about the first week
2. Upset stomach in pm hours for the first week
3. Pretty bad bloat at the end of cycle, anadrol bloats my upper abdomen and gave me a moon face at the end of cycle.
4. Nipple irritation at the end of my cycle. I figured it was because of the elevated estrogen with the lowered test, I took about 100mg of clomid for a few weeks, and took about 15mg of tbol for about 5 days to get that instant test boost, when irritation started, it took care of my problems
Ok,I am a wuss because I cannot inject myself. My girlfriend does them for me, and she is out of the country right now.
Everyone and their momma seems to think that doing steroids like anadrol or dbol alone is taboo, but these same people seem to be ok when someone uses superdrol, katanadrol or diesel alone. Test is a great base, and it is going to maximize your gains with orals and give you libido which some orals kill.
But, from my personal experience you can still get considerable gains from oral only and keep a good amount of gains if pct is executed properly. With all that being said, all I am taking right now is anadrol @ 50mg Here are my experiences 6 day in it.....
Side effects
1. MINOR headache on day 1
2. Insomnia for 2 days
3. Elevated libido (I kind of want it to decrease since my girl is not here, I'm not a cheater)
Here is a before and after pic of me before the anadrol/sust and after. First pic is 196, the second pic was 225, (I did get up to 232 though)
Before http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/nismoz33turbo/precycle.jpg
After http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/nismoz33turbo/post.jpg
I'll gladly help you some more if you have questions, but I am not a bodybuilder claim to be or train like one. lol So I might not be able to help you much!
JV
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Thanks!! GREAT INFO MAN!!!
And wow Drol boosted labido solo? Thats awesome! I wonder what it would be like running Methyltrienolone solo?!
mr.sagat
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It has boosted my libido, but I am really sure it is going to take a dive and decrease it after it shuts me down more. I don't know about methyl tren, I just know that it supposedly is harder on the hair than any other steroid and it is supposed to decrease libido severely. Methyl tren is a drug I do not plan on ever running without test, not to say it can't be used with unleashed and hcgenerate backing up the cycle, I just wouldn't do it.....
JV
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Maybe you could use ATD or Proviron as anti-e as well as boosting test alot if running it solo.
The reason I ask is because I'd think running Anadrol & any sort of Tren, the prolactin/progestin build up would be huge if ran with test.
Lol Grrrr I wish livers could be more bad ass! I would love to stack Anadrol/Methyltrienolone/Halotestin or Test (Or maybe Tbol or Dbol)!!!! For that DHT/19-nor/Test derived synergy!
But yea about that hair loss, couldn't you just use Proscar?..
mr.sagat
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I use 2.5 mg of finasteride everyday. That will prevent hairloss from test, but anadrol and dbol cause hairloss on a different receptor than the one that finasteride blocks. With that being said, I have been on steroids for three years and have taken finasteride for the last two years. My hair is actually thicker than it was before the steroid usage, for me dbol makes me shed more than anadrol.....
LOL I hear you with the liver! hahaha When my girl gets back I am taking a break from the orals. I already talked to her about it, I plan on going to blast and cruise with a constant low dose of test, include drugs that promote callagen synthesis year around, and start taking higher androgenic drugs closer to competition time, pretty much like Louie simmons has been doing for the past 38 or so years. I want to minimize the chances of a tendon tear as much as possible.
LOL I hear you with the liver! hahaha When my girl gets back I am taking a break from the orals. I already talked to her about it, I plan on going to blast and cruise with a constant low dose of test, include drugs that promote callagen synthesis year around, and start taking higher androgenic drugs closer to competition time, pretty much like Louie simmons has been doing for the past 38 or so years. I want to minimize the chances of a tendon tear as much as possible.
JV
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I wonder if one were to take like prescription and the best liver supports, if they could stack MT and A-bombs? I hear realistically Methyltrienolone is VERY similar to a medium high dose of Superdrol. So I suppose if one could handle a Superdrol/Anadrol stack, they could handle this..
But what do you do? Arm wrestle???
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ALIN
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I think M1T is the stronger of the two although Superdrol isnt far behind.
mr.sagat
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You could stack methyl tren and abombs for a short period of time, but I don't think it'll be worth it and there is no reason to do it.
Yeah, I armwrestle. I won 3 state titles in 2006/2007 then took some beatings by some top dogs in some bigger tournies and training. I made a promise to myself that I am not going to compete again until I get to where I can at least do a 100 lb static dumbbell hold with 1 arm in a 90 degree position. That should enable me to do some damage since my hand and forearm are strong and my biceps/brachi are my weak point. As it is right now, I can do slow movements from 90 degrees and closer with 75 for 3x3, so I should be able to hold 80 in a static hold. I'm hoping that with my new program using the conjugate system I can get to a high strength level for a 220 pound armwrestler pretty quickly....
Yeah, I armwrestle. I won 3 state titles in 2006/2007 then took some beatings by some top dogs in some bigger tournies and training. I made a promise to myself that I am not going to compete again until I get to where I can at least do a 100 lb static dumbbell hold with 1 arm in a 90 degree position. That should enable me to do some damage since my hand and forearm are strong and my biceps/brachi are my weak point. As it is right now, I can do slow movements from 90 degrees and closer with 75 for 3x3, so I should be able to hold 80 in a static hold. I'm hoping that with my new program using the conjugate system I can get to a high strength level for a 220 pound armwrestler pretty quickly....
JV
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Thats cool! I really enjoy arm wrestling aswell! Take a look at these bad boys! Near 18"s
I guess you could just run them in separate cycles, or just use injectable tren, a-bombs, and some test derived gear.
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testboi123
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i was thinking of running Beastdrol and Epi or Beast and Katana for my next cycle. I have heard some good reveiws but have no clue how well they work. I have ran Test E , anavar and diesel. wonder what the comparison would be between these. anyone know? maybe add Test Prop for 6 weeks as a nice base...
JV
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i was thinking of running Beastdrol and Epi or Beast and Katana for my next cycle. I have heard some good reveiws but have no clue how well they work. I have ran Test E , anavar and diesel. wonder what the comparison would be between these. anyone know? maybe add Test Prop for 6 weeks as a nice base...
I think Beast and Katana, or Superdrol and epistane would be a great lean mass/ strength stack!
agreed, It gave me nose bleeds 2 nights in, and I never ever ever had nose bleeds. Soo, ya crap
Deltoid_87
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Strength on M1T is crazy!! i've run two 4 week cycles of it but I wouldn't use it again it makes me too lethargic and oohhh my insides ache like a bitch... haven't used SD so can't compare.
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