low test level bloodtest?

[lovemoney]

my total test came back today at 138.this sucks.was on for 6 months 4th cycle.did a heavy pct hcg 2000iu m/w/f for 6 weeks dr.prescribed.then clomid for 1 month and nol 2months.i ran adex threw cycle and with the hcg.my last shot was 100mg prop the last week of sept 06.im 32 and leaning for trt.my endo says if levels dont raise in 1 month by themselves he will give me test.this is what i want!do u guys think that they will come up with any significance in 1 month?thanks in advance

 

[Zircon]

id like to hear updates on what happens to you.

do u think your low levels are due to roids?

I'd take the noilva clomid and see how you do with it.

but I would have a blood test only 1-2 months after disconitnuiing clomid/nolva. otherwise ur blood level will show higher than it really is.

 

[lovemoney]

id like to hear updates on what happens to you.

do u think your low levels are due to roids?

I'd take the noilva clomid and see how you do with it.

but I would have a blood test only 1-2 months after disconitnuiing clomid/nolva. otherwise ur blood level will show higher than it really is.

i think i always suffered from low test even as a teen,thats why when i was introduced to roids i fell in live,lolit was a month off clomid for the test and 2 weeks off nolva and i still was only 138.i have no problem with the trt route i just want to know if my natural will increase in a month and mess up my chances at a script.

 

[nsashbl01]

i think i always suffered from low test even as a teen,thats why when i was introduced to roids i fell in live,lolit was a month off clomid for the test and 2 weeks off nolva and i still was only 138.i have no problem with the trt route i just want to know if my natural will increase in a month and mess up my chances at a script.

Fourth cycle and you were on for six months, why? TRT or not, you need to think more about safe use.

Anyay, why do you think you were low before. Symptoms?? Explain.

 

[mammalspod]

This is related to a lot of research I've done lately on the long term effects of HCG. I will briefly describe why I think it is a bad choice for PCT. Drugs like Clomid and Nolvadex cause an increase in test from competitively binding to the estrogen receptor. Anti aromatase drugs (letro, adex) reversibly bind to the aromatase enzyme stopping the conversion of androgens to other compounds temporarily. HCG is unique in the fact that it bypasses the body's natural controls (negative feedback loops) and directly stimulates the testes to produce more testosterone. Because of the lack of control over tis process the part of the testes that make testosterone (leydig's cells) may become overstimulated and as a result can become desensitized to your body's natural levels of gonadotropin releasing hormone (essentially what HCG is taking the place of). This may actually cause more long term suppression of endogenous test production than the usage of average aas doses. I am by no means an endocrinologist but if anyone knows about this please weigh in as I am very interested in this topic. anyway I theorize that the only real advantage of HCG use might be keeping more gains since it turns the endo test production way up to compensate for the drop in exogenous hormones. I would only use HCG in a very limited amount and duration untill more is found out about this. (1500iu every 4-5 days for 3 weeks post cycle)

 

[ynotfish]

So if you keep down-regulating to, say 250/ 300iu twice a week with the same results, theoretically you'll be safe at 6/ 8 weeks or so in the middle of a cycle? I can find no info on how long one should be off either, as I'll start PCT with low does HCG added after only six weeks off it (it's a long cycle)

 

[solidspine]

Who knows, the MD doesn’t, everyone is different,


but it will come back up eventually.

I would just go back on and not worry about it.

 

[JKurz1]

what was your exact pct description? amounts, etc.

When did you stop pct? I can't believe your levels are that low still if you had legit pct products unless your test is naturally low.

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