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Low dosage threshold? VETS?

Do you VETS believe there is a effective low dosages threshold?
Easier with example:

500mg Testoviron/wk
500mg Deca/wk

vs.

500mg Testoviron/wk
100 mg deca/wk
100 mg primo/wk
100 eq/wk
100 wv/wk
100 fina/wk

Observations and personal experience only please.
Theories are for the weak and spineless.

*Also for you amateurs, Half-lifes and release times are not science.
I know hundreds of people that inject everything once every two weeks or
wv, prop, fina only 2x week and get the same results.

Just because you read it in a book doesn't mean it applies to reallife

So please save the flame of "wv only once a week?"

I think what I asked is : 200mgs the bottom threshold for deca, eq, primo ect.

"a very thick wiseman told me once - never put a hole in yourself unless the syringe is full."
 
(Original)KILLERBEE said:
Do you VETS believe there is a effective low dosages threshold?
Easier with example:

500mg Testoviron/wk
500mg Deca/wk

vs.

500mg Testoviron/wk
100 mg deca/wk
100 mg primo/wk
100 eq/wk
100 wv/wk
100 fina/wk

Observations and personal experience only please.
Theories are for the weak and spineless.


I don't know of anybody who would run cycles like the second one you have laid out...So if looking for first hand experience you will be hard pressed to find anyone who would run things like that...
 
(Original)KILLERBEE said:

Observations and personal experience only please.
Theories are for the weak and spineless.

*Also for you amateurs, Half-lifes and release times are not science.
I know hundreds of people that inject everything once every two weeks or
wv, prop, fina only 2x week and get the same results.


I seriously doubt that...and there is no way for you to sit there with a serious face and say that they would produce the same results with twice weekly injections of fast acting gear, as opposed to ed injections...
 
Half-lifes ARE science. And if your hundreds of buddies are all injecting fast acting gear like TA 2 x a week and getting "the same gains", how do they know WTF they could do if the used it ED or EOD?
 
(Original)KILLERBEE said:
Do you VETS believe there is a effective low dosages threshold?
Easier with example:

500mg Testoviron/wk
500mg Deca/wk

vs.

500mg Testoviron/wk
100 mg deca/wk
100 mg primo/wk
100 eq/wk
100 wv/wk
100 fina/wk

Observations and personal experience only please.
Theories are for the weak and spineless.

*Also for you amateurs, Half-lifes and release times are not science.
I know hundreds of people that inject everything once every two weeks or
wv, prop, fina only 2x week and get the same results.

Just because you read it in a book doesn't mean it applies to reallife

So please save the flame of "wv only once a week?"

I think what I asked is : 200mgs the bottom threshold for deca, eq, primo ect.

"a very thick wiseman told me once - never put a hole in yourself unless the syringe is full."

I'll stay away from the cocky sidebar stuff and go right to the question:

Yes - 200mg should be practical minimum generally (unless you have low natural test, then you can gain on less :( )

I would run cycle 1 over cycle 2, especially when bulking. Pre-contest you may want to stack a little differently to add in a hardener or personal preference choices.

Finally, you are correct, you can make gains injecting on schedules considered less than optimum per usual standards regarding half-lifes that we all know. Heck, my young dumbass used to run test suspension EOD and I thought I was doing it right. Still made good gains.....are they as good as if I ran it ED? Don't know, haven't run it since. Careful on this one though, unless you have run 'em both ways, how do you know if it was as good or not??
 
So noone really knows....
Thanx StillGoing for YOUR LOGICAL APPROACH to answering my question.
I have run ever fucking cycle you can think of, and being the local guru whereever I go (I travel alot for work) I have experimented on many others with the same results.

Do you really think your going to gain and extra 1 lb of muscle a week if you run gear more often.
Greg Zulak explained he did the same with wv 1 or 2 times a wk.
You guys are overlooking one factor: most guys that are serious don't really "go off" so they is always a certain sermun amount of gear in one's system.
Many people believe in front-loading, well if you haven't gone off in years you are already front loaded.
So what many of you guys think is essential is no longer a fact.
Release times are important when starting 'fresh' but how does one actually calulate the half-lifes of various drugs over a period of time plus the affect on receptors upgrade or downgrade, this all a fucking mystery.
So next your flame - realize how STUPID and UNINTELLIGENT is makes you seem to me.
Learning involves listening and theoriziing, experimenting, open your mind and you will grow, (even more.)
 
i concur that 200-300mg of test per week is the low dosage threshold. I have made gains on my first cycle equaling 10lbs in 5 weeks on 2 ampoules of Winstroll, that's 100mg per week, injected every tue and thr. So i would venture to say the half life approach to dosing is overrated to say the least and low dosages DO work. You just have to be patient.
 
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