Lost????? Please help me understand which is the best

[anabolic12]

Will someone w/ good tren experience please help me get something straight about tren prog/prol sides. I will be taking Tren Ace 75mgs/eod/8 weeks (first time user of tren, will start slow maybe even 50mgs eod) & 500mgs of Sus for 16 weeks. I will be using the tren the last 8 weeks of the cycle.

So w/ that being said… I have read that Bromo is the best for keeping away tren gyno, but then other post say Femera, but if I am taking test along w/ the tren, will either of these combat test gyno?

And last but NOT least Dostinex – Is this a must on a tren cyle?

I’m doing my best to learn about tren sides before moving forward w/ this cycle.

 

[GUESS]

Will someone w/ good tren experience please help me get something straight about tren prog/prol sides. I will be taking Tren Ace 75mgs/eod/8 weeks (first time user of tren, will start slow maybe even 50mgs eod) & 500mgs of Sus for 16 weeks. I will be using the tren the last 8 weeks of the cycle.

So w/ that being said… I have read that Bromo is the best for keeping away tren gyno, but then other post say Femera, but if I am taking test along w/ the tren, will either of these combat test gyno?

And last but NOT least Dostinex – Is this a must on a tren cyle?

I’m doing my best to learn about tren sides before moving forward w/ this cycle.

Here u go Bro!


Trenbolone Handbook:


When using Tren Ace-600mgs is all you need.
When using Tren Enanthate-400mgs is all you need


-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone

-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed

-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less

-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week

-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin

-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys

-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher

-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains

-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone

-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only

-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better



Hope that helps man! Goog luck


GUESS

 

[BigRed66]

I agree as far as reducing sides, letro seems superior to any other AI.

 

[needtogetaas]

Here u go Bro!


Trenbolone Handbook:


When using Tren Ace-600mgs is all you need.
When using Tren Enanthate-400mgs is all you need


-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone

-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed

-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less

-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week

-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin

-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys

-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher

-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains

-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone

-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only

-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better



Hope that helps man! Goog luck


GUESS

Thats the worst advice ever..... always use t-3 who the fuck came up with that crap.

 

[GUESS]

Thats the worst advice ever..... always use t-3 who the fuck came up with that crap.

Why so anti t-3?

 

[Big BX]

Thats the worst advice ever..... always use t-3 who the fuck came up with that crap.

I agree. Only half of that is is even close to advice I would consider.

This quote:

"-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone"

IS totally absurd. Those compounds will do nothing for prog/prol sides. Nothing, period.

I could go on...

 

[HAYEZ]

Here u go Bro!


Trenbolone Handbook:


When using Tren Ace-600mgs is all you need.
When using Tren Enanthate-400mgs is all you need


-Always run at least 500mg test with trenbolone

-Always used trenbolone ace and shoot ed

-Always use between 40-80mg ed and no more or less

-Always run ATLEAST 25mg winstrol ed with trenbolone to avoid prog buildup
-Always run Dostinex - cabergoline - low dose at minimum while using trenbolone...about 1mg divided per week

-Always use low dose T3 while on trenbolone (25mcg ed) since trenbolone supressed t3 levels which leads to prolactin buildup...t3 supresses prolactin

-Always use cranberry extract to save kidneys

-Always keep protein intake at 2.5g per lb bodyweight while on trenbolone or higher

-Always train heavy while using trenbolone for maximum gains

-Always choose Femera over aromasin and arimidex when using trenbolone since it will offset prog/prol sides much better...but only when using trenbolone

-Always avoid carbs and heavy cals before bed to prevent night sweats..prot only

-Always drink atleast 1.5 gallons water everyday...more is better



Hope that helps man! Goog luck


GUESS

there alot of nonsense in this handbook

 

[HAYEZ]

loosk liek i was to late hahahahhaha

 

[needtogetaas]

Will someone w/ good tren experience please help me get something straight about tren prog/prol sides. I will be taking Tren Ace 75mgs/eod/8 weeks (first time user of tren, will start slow maybe even 50mgs eod) & 500mgs of Sus for 16 weeks. I will be using the tren the last 8 weeks of the cycle.

So w/ that being said… I have read that Bromo is the best for keeping away tren gyno, but then other post say Femera, but if I am taking test along w/ the tren, will either of these combat test gyno?

And last but NOT least Dostinex – Is this a must on a tren cyle?

I’m doing my best to learn about tren sides before moving forward w/ this cycle.

dostinex bromo same damn thing. Both do the same thing.



Now here it is. If ya don't get gyno or the sites from gyno what ever then no need to use anything.


You will here many people say that you can use just letro or a ai because its believed that progesterone will do little to nothing with out the high level estrogen. Not always true however. To a degree yes.


Have both letro and dotinex/bromo on hand. Tell anyone telling you to use t-3 no fucking thanks you rather keep yout thyroid working right for the rest of your life. Your not trying to be a pro so no need to take that risks.


Now its smart to keep the test above the tren ( or said to be smart) for sex drive reasons. If you are pron to progesterone sides from tren or deca keeping your test dose is going to do little to nothing and infact will raise estro more and help to worsen the problem ( if its gyno problem not sex drive).

Running a higher does of test is not going to magically help with any gyno problems you would have from tren. also not going to magically lower your prog levels ether. Only reason people say it is sex drive thats it.



As far as recovery it is a good idea to run test a few weeks past the nandro aka tren/deca. Why? well because high progesterone levels mean you are not going to recover. So rather then use dotinex to bring this down or a pree pct with a dht or something that will lower porg people just find it easier to run the test a few weeks past till the levels come down. Is it going to come down with out help? Most of the time yes but the time frame in which this will happen is no deff. Still running the test a few weeks past seems to be the norm and it works well for most. Other methods work as well.



Lots of people say use it everyday to keep stable levels. Well eod keeps a stable level too. Is it better to inject ed? yes it is. Is it a must? no.


Bottom line. If you get sides from it like prog gyno or even limp dick dotinex/bromo should be in the mix. Then a light dose ai first like .5mg adex eod and .5mg dotinex every 3 days. If this does not work up the doses on both. If that don't work then drop the light ai throw in letro and keep the dos the same. Moving up the chart till it works. If all else fails drop the tren.


Why do most people say to use tren ace? well because if the sides do get out of control you can drop the tren and it will clear fast. Then you can work on taking care of the problem.


Why do people say to use winny? well its not winny that is the must and its not a must at all. Its just a good idea and pretty effective. Its the dht. You could effectively use masteroin or proviron as well. Both dht's and both will have the same synergistic effect as winny will when used with a nandro. They all help to keep the prog sides to a minimum ( or at least for some they do and have been shown to do so).


Anyway t-3 is not a good idea please do not use it for this reason. Ya it has some uses in the industry but not this one. If you would like anymore advice send me a pm I am here pretty much 24 hours a day.

 

[needtogetaas]

Why so anti t-3?

I am not. I just think its not a effective use of the compound. You got a guy here who hardly knows how to use tren and your trying to throw t-3 ( a powerful insulin effecting type drug) I mean lets please try to keep people safe here.
If he is not ready for tren he is no where near ready for t-3 bro.

 

[GUESS]

I guess I should make something clear, first off I didn't originally write that. That was info I got off this site quite a while ago and I've past it on several times in the past with some knowledgeable guys chiming in on those threads and never any opposition.

Having said that, it's obvious now that i was mislead and now doing the same.

The info looked pretty solid with some of it being common sense.

Therefore I apologize guys my intent was not to mislead anyone.

 

[needtogetaas]

I guess I should make something clear, first off I didn't originally write that. That was info I got off this site quite a while ago and I've past it on several times in the past with some knowledgeable guys chiming in on those threads and never any opposition.

Having said that, it's obvious now that i was mislead and now doing the same.

The info looked pretty solid with some of it being common sense.

Therefore I apologize guys my intent was not to mislead anyone.

Its understandable bro and perfectly ok. Had I took notice of this advice in the past I deff would have said something as I am sure I did when ever I say it.

Give me a link to the thread so I can correct the guy if I have not already.

 

[needtogetaas]

loosk liek i was to late hahahahhaha

Good to see you throwing down as always hayes.

 

[GUESS]

Its understandable bro and perfectly ok. Had I took notice of this advice in the past I deff would have said something as I am sure I did when ever I say it.

Give me a link to the thread so I can correct the guy if I have not already.

Thanks for the leniency man. I'll let u know when I find the link and pass it on.

I won't be doin' that again!

 

[anabolic12]

dostinex bromo same damn thing. Both do the same thing.



Now here it is. If ya don't get gyno or the sites from gyno what ever then no need to use anything.


You will here many people say that you can use just letro or a ai because its believed that progesterone will do little to nothing with out the high level estrogen. Not always true however. To a degree yes.


Have both letro and dotinex/bromo on hand. Tell anyone telling you to use t-3 no fucking thanks you rather keep yout thyroid working right for the rest of your life. Your not trying to be a pro so no need to take that risks.


Now its smart to keep the test above the tren ( or said to be smart) for sex drive reasons. If you are pron to progesterone sides from tren or deca keeping your test dose is going to do little to nothing and infact will raise estro more and help to worsen the problem ( if its gyno problem not sex drive).

Running a higher does of test is not going to magically help with any gyno problems you would have from tren. also not going to magically lower your prog levels ether. Only reason people say it is sex drive thats it.



As far as recovery it is a good idea to run test a few weeks past the nandro aka tren/deca. Why? well because high progesterone levels mean you are not going to recover. So rather then use dotinex to bring this down or a pree pct with a dht or something that will lower porg people just find it easier to run the test a few weeks past till the levels come down. Is it going to come down with out help? Most of the time yes but the time frame in which this will happen is no deff. Still running the test a few weeks past seems to be the norm and it works well for most. Other methods work as well.



Lots of people say use it everyday to keep stable levels. Well eod keeps a stable level too. Is it better to inject ed? yes it is. Is it a must? no.


Bottom line. If you get sides from it like prog gyno or even limp dick dotinex/bromo should be in the mix. Then a light dose ai first like .5mg adex eod and .5mg dotinex every 3 days. If this does not work up the doses on both. If that don't work then drop the light ai throw in letro and keep the dos the same. Moving up the chart till it works. If all else fails drop the tren.


Why do most people say to use tren ace? well because if the sides do get out of control you can drop the tren and it will clear fast. Then you can work on taking care of the problem.


Why do people say to use winny? well its not winny that is the must and its not a must at all. Its just a good idea and pretty effective. Its the dht. You could effectively use masteroin or proviron as well. Both dht's and both will have the same synergistic effect as winny will when used with a nandro. They all help to keep the prog sides to a minimum ( or at least for some they do and have been shown to do so).


Anyway t-3 is not a good idea please do not use it for this reason. Ya it has some uses in the industry but not this one. If you would like anymore advice send me a pm I am here pretty much 24 hours a day.

Needto,

Thanks for the help bro... It's nice having someone around that gives a good understand of what to use/how much/and when. So thanks for the info and clarification

Two questions per your response above - I am going to start using the adex .5 eod until i start the tren on week 8 then I will include .5 dotinex e3d. I am prone to gyno while on test, so making a educated guess I would think I would be prone on the nandro side of things. However, I could be wrong!

I havent researched this, but will the dotinex hinder my gains? I ask this because if it is known to hinder gains, I would consider holding off until signs of gyno trouble from the tren.

Second question - I have plenty of winny to run for the 8 weeks on the tren. Since I have this should it be ran? If so, maybe I could hold off on the dotinex while running the winny along w/ the test, tren, adex,... Having the dotinex on hand in the event he winny doesnt do that great of a job helping hold off prog sides...

Your thoughts..........

 

[needtogetaas]

Needto,

Thanks for the help bro... It's nice having someone around that gives a good understand of what to use/how much/and when. So thanks for the info and clarification

Two questions per your response above - I am going to start using the adex .5 eod until i start the tren on week 8 then I will include .5 dotinex e3d. I am prone to gyno while on test, so making a educated guess I would think I would be prone on the nandro side of things. However, I could be wrong!

I havent researched this, but will the dotinex hinder my gains? I ask this because if it is known to hinder gains, I would consider holding off until signs of gyno trouble from the tren.

Second question - I have plenty of winny to run for the 8 weeks on the tren. Since I have this should it be ran? If so, maybe I could hold off on the dotinex while running the winny along w/ the test, tren, adex,... Having the dotinex on hand in the event he winny doesnt do that great of a job helping hold off prog sides...

Your thoughts..........

go with the winny 50mg ed first. Then the dos if you need it.

 

[Muscle Stack]

Thats the worst advice ever..... always use t-3 who the fuck came up with that crap.

Give the man a break he's a Canadian what do they know about BB, they play hockey!!! LOL seriously that's why I like this place men are men and they can man up to their mistakes. So cudos to the Canadian...
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