Lost my virginity

[mookie]

Just got done my 1st shot 2cc 250mg Sus and 200 EQ. Question is how bad is the pain the next day I have GT EQ heard that GT is painful. 1st real cycle have done 5 Var only cycles. Want to put on some weight been boxing for 10 years and always had to lose weight. Use to fight at 132lbs. Stats now 5'9 170lbs 28yrs old low BF. Been lifting for about 12yrs. Current cycle: Sus 500mg week(mon-thur) EQ 400mg week(mon-thur) Dbol 40mg (ED). Running the Sus and EQ for 10 weeks and the Dbol week 1-5. A couple of questions I have Proviron and some Primo should I take the Proviron throughout the cycle and should I mix in the Primo during the cycle. Clomid and Nolvadex for PCT.

 

[Del_Piero]

That is a very good cycle...u will gain a lot if u train, sleep and eat right....I also did this cycle for my 1st but with lower dosage. Since its ur first cycle just stick with wat u doing now...no point in adding more gear.....use the rest for ur next cycle....3 is plenty for a 1st cycle.

The GT EQ....hmm for me it was painfull....it usually lasted 2-3 days....the pain wasnt the prob but it effected my form.....however I still liked it and did me well....Good luck with the cycle.

 

[mookie]

del piero how much weight did you gain on it? How many mg did you do?

 

[Del_Piero]

del piero how much weight did you gain on it? How many mg did you do?

I am very hard gainer....I gained 12lbs and kept it all.....400eq wk and 250sust wk for 10 weeks.

 

[Lestat]

good luck man, keep us posted on your results.

 

[Cypptanon]

I would run Nolvadex and Proviron weeks 3-5 due to the dbol, and then again weeks 9-12. Nolva 10/Prov 25 per day. Clomid for three weeks starting in week 13.

Just my 2 cents...

Good Luck bro,

Cyp

 

[mookie]

Cyp, I was going to run the Proviron 50mg week 1-5 because of the Dbol and 25mg for the next 5. You think I should use some Nolvadex 3-5 because of the Dbol. I was going to use the Nolvadex week 10-13 and start the Clomid 2 weeks after my last Sus shot.

 

[glennds]

i just lost my virginity too! just did my first inject, glute, sus 250. it was COMPLELTELY painless and easy although i do feel a little sorenoess. i don't know if tomorrow is when i am supposed to feel pain.

i got my order, pins, etc almost two weeks ago and kept putting off doing the injection. i took the time to read up on how to do it and it was a piece of cake. i feel a little strange but maybe it is just relief, and happiness that i took the first step. i can't wait to see the results!

 

[mookie]

Glennds, you will feel a little pain tomorrow. Mine is not that bad thought it would have been worse.

 

[glennds]

mookie what kind of gains you looking for? i would like to get to 190-195. i am currently 5-10 and 182 or so. i have the worlds fastest metabolism so it is hard for me to put on mass.

i also did two cycles of var only. i liked the results, got up to 188 but messed up by doing no PCT. i am trying sus now that i have gotten over my fear of needles. it is kind of fun experimenting with different AASs and seeing what works.

btw, it is way past my bedtime and i cannot get to sleep tonight. i don't know if this is a result of the sus? anyone? just took an ambien so i won't be all tired tomorrow. i

 

[Cypptanon]

I think you should be fine with Proviron at 50mg/day since Proviron prevents aromatization. But with Nolvadex in the mix, if any conversion does occur, the estrogen receptors are blocked by the Nolvadex. Your plan sounds good though, with Proviron throughout there should be very little estrogen conversion, and adding Nolvadex at the end will block the receptors and stimulate the production of testosterone leading in to the clomid for a complete recovery. I would wait until two and a half or three weeks past the last sust shot for the clomid, but you're choice.

Cyp

 

[glennds]

well i woke up today with some soreness but it is definitely manageable. after reading some of the posts about sus i expected hellish pain. i was worried about bloat but don't notice any facial bloating. i have a lean face anyhow so maybe that helps.

 

[no1special]

I find that on the days I juice if I use the dry sauna at my gym
it seems to make the shots a little more tolorable. I don't know if it
moves the gear out to the body faster or what, but if nothing else,
it will make you feel better, more relaxed, and that is bound to make
the 'lump' less painful.

Congratulations on loosing your virginity, yours will be a whole new World now...

Peace

 

[glennds]

the pain has increased a little as the day has gone on but it not nearly as bad as i expected. looking forward to this whole new world, as no1 sais!

 

[mookie]

Glennds, I like to put on 20lbs that is my goal. Are you just doing the Sus or are you stacking it? I have problems sleeping when I am on couldn't sleep when I was on the Var.

 

[Del_Piero]

Glennds, I like to put on 20lbs that is my goal. Are you just doing the Sus or are you stacking it? I have problems sleeping when I am on couldn't sleep when I was on the Var.

Using dbol makes u very sleepy...trust me...let it kick in

 

[glennds]

i am doing the sus without anything else. i have used var but come to conclusion that it is not best thing for me, but a good starting AAS. i am lucky that i am naturally lean and still have good abs at my age. i can see var if i was looking to be more cut but a little more bulk is my goal. i think var is overpriced and somewhat overrated, on its own anyhow.

 

[glennds]

well it is the second morning and gotta admit the pain has worsened. it is a dull pain that has spread across my right glute. i feel it when i sit. it is not terrible, in a way i kind of like because it is proof i did it. from what i have read the pain lessens with subsequent injections. why is this so?

 

[no1special]

well, maybe the pain is not less, your pin threshold is more.

I would personally suggest using your deltoids, You'll grow
up top much faster, it's easier to reach, and in my opinion,
less painful, either way, at least you don't have to sit on it

bicepts are nice too, just remember, there is a limit to how much
juice a single muscle can hold, I've found 3 CC is fine for my delts,
or glutes,
but I wouldn't want to put more than a CC ( or so ) in my bicept(s).

hope this helps,
Peace

 

[glennds]

yes no1 this definitely helps. what size pins you use in shoulder? is 1" too big, or do you 5/8"? so you grow more in the areas close to where you inject? i have not heard that before.

 

[no1special]

ok, I am always willing to help good bro's who are not smart asses toward me first. They know who they are

Aim for the lower-middle of the middle delt, remember you have a very important vein on your Anterior delt, so be careful of that....

Some will tell you to use a 1.5 inch pin for the delt. Based on the idea you need to get the gear as deep as possible, and as far from your skin, or the surface as possible, because you don't want the gear to reside on your muscles, you want it in your muscles,

for that reason, i suggest you start with a 1" pin.

Also, I used to slap the injection spot with washed hand ( spot wiped w/ alcohol ) and stab myself with the pin. By slapping the area first, you shock the area and the injection is less painful, for lack of a better word.

These days I do it completely different.

Now I clean the area as usual. Then I "place" the pin where I want to put it, and push it in slowly. It does feel weird, especially in your biceps, but it's much better because when you use the stab method, you really never know where the pin is going to end up until it's already in, and too late...

And I use 23 gage, no matter if it's with a 1.5" glute shot, or a 1" bicep or delt shot.

Hope this helps,

Peace.

 

[no1special]

also, with the second injection method, you can still use a 1.5 " pin
if that's all you have, just don't push it all the way in. Same with the
1" pin, if your delts are pretty small, you don't have to push the 1" all the way in,
but listen, the 5/8 inch pin IS too shallow, so i suggest you burry the 1" pin.

maybe this site with injection pictures will help. I refer to it just to make sure
sometimes... Remember, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of regret...
- or something like that

http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm

Peace and Good Luck...

 

[no1special]

Lastly, and i know I'm going to catch shit for this,

when using your delts, there is a method that seems best for me,
everything is prepared, alchahol wipes are soaked and the injection
spot is wiped down.

hehe, can't believe how much shit I'm going to catch for this,

I bend over, letting the arm I'm injecting to hang, legs are strait
and i'm bent at the waste, arm hanging is how I inject my deltoid,
then, once the pin is in, I stand up strait, but with my are still out
in front of me, the same as when i was bent over, once i have burried
the plunger, I relax my injection hand so the pin is strait, i don't want
to pull it out from an angle, only makes allot of blood, and with a relaxed
hand I gently pull it strait out. Usually no blood at all, just a little oil.

I always do it this way and don't see a situation where I wouldn't.

Other than the AssJunkies, I would like to here what your guys think of this,
or how you do it in your delts.

Peace.