Looking for some feedback - Thanks!

[chicubs]

Hello everyone and thanks for taking the time to review my post.

I posted this same question under a different section, but I'm hoping to get more feedback here. Any advice or feedback from you guys would be appreciated.

Here's my deal. I'm 30 years old, 6'2, 245lbs probably 12% body fat but that's a rough guess. I've been training regularly (4-5 days week) for the past 10 years with only short periods off.

I have done 4 cycles during this period, 2x when I was 21 years old and 2x when I was 25. To be honest I dont recall the exact doses since it was so long ago, but I know I used Primobolan - methenolone - + Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - initially and most recently (5 years ago) used equipose + winstrol + Deca.

Also of important note is that about 6 months after my first cycles when I was 21 I began feeling weak and tired and had blood tests performed that showed my natural testosterone levels were very low. I'll never know if this was due to the cycle, but it seems to make sense. Nevertheless I have been injecting test cypionate with a prescription since then. The point is that I was also using test during the cycle 5 years ago. I do notice that the test causes me to retain water, but even when I take more than I should for long periods I have no signs of gynecomastia, acne etc.

About 3 years ago I severely injured my lower back which required lumbar injections and lots of rehab. I redamaged the back again just under a year ago which finally required surgery. This forced me to take off 5 months from the gym which I'm sure many of you can appreciate how difficult it was to lay around as I watched my body soften. Anyway I've been back at the weights and would like to use a cycle to increase my recovery and hopefully bring me back stronger. I prefer to go natural for the most part, but I definitely need the help now.

With that novel stated (sorry for the length guys) I'd love any suggestions on the stack and amounts you guys would recommend. My initial thought was equipose+Primobolan - methenolone - +Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - in a longer cycle to build up sustaining lean muscle. This of course is assuming I can find these and I'm sure the market has changed in 5 years.

Does this sound like a decent approach or would it be better to run primobolan by itself for 8-10 weeks, take a break, and then come back with a smaller stack?

Thanks again everyone, I appreciate any advice!!
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[marlin22]

eq and primo for a 12 week cycle would be very nice

 

[xrsist]

Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and Primobolan - methenolone - for a 12 week cycle would be very nice

eq should be run for a min of 14-16 weeks

 

[socket]

Greetings!

I believe your crash was due to lack of P>C>T, in particular due to dec.a.

Going forwards, for good gains, prim.o and EQ will be great together, certainly on top of the base of test you are using, btw how much test are you doing on prescription? The cycle should run 16 wks, followed by basic PCT.

You could also drop some winny in the cycle to help with the water retention if this bothers you.

Is your diet all sorted out in preparation?

 

[rambleon]

Welcome bro.

I tend to think the eq. sorta make the primo a bit redundant. I'd go with a test base (higher than ur hrt) plus either primo or eq. and anavar. These options would look something like this:

1-16 test c 500 mg ew
1-16 eq 600 mg ew
10-16 anavar 50-60 mg ed

or:

1-12 test c 500 mg ew
1-12 primo 700 mg ew
6-12 anavar 50-60 mg ed

Keep some adex on hand but i dont think u'll need it. Just to be safe.
No pct just slide back to ur HRT.

Good luck.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Decca is very supressive resulting in long lasting damage. I'd guess it's what caused your problem. Why repeat it?

Primmo is safest. E.Q. is sort of a "poor mans Primmo."

You should still try to get natural T levels as high as possible, especially "free" testosterone. Check out UNLEASHED at www.proteinfactory.com I'd strongly recommend using that prior, during and after your cycle to maintain as much natural T as possible. And have your PC T is order. With primmo you'll only need natty anti e supps but you still need HC G.

 

[needtogetaas]

Hello everyone and thanks for taking the time to review my post.

I posted this same question under a different section, but I'm hoping to get more feedback here. Any advice or feedback from you guys would be appreciated.

Here's my deal. I'm 30 years old, 6'2, 245lbs probably 12% body fat but that's a rough guess. I've been training regularly (4-5 days week) for the past 10 years with only short periods off.

I have done 4 cycles during this period, 2x when I was 21 years old and 2x when I was 25. To be honest I dont recall the exact doses since it was so long ago, but I know I used Primobolan - methenolone - + Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - initially and most recently (5 years ago) used equipose + winstrol + Deca.

Also of important note is that about 6 months after my first cycles when I was 21 I began feeling weak and tired and had blood tests performed that showed my natural testosterone levels were very low. I'll never know if this was due to the cycle, but it seems to make sense. Nevertheless I have been injecting test cypionate with a prescription since then. The point is that I was also using test during the cycle 5 years ago. I do notice that the test causes me to retain water, but even when I take more than I should for long periods I have no signs of gynecomastia, acne etc.

About 3 years ago I severely injured my lower back which required lumbar injections and lots of rehab. I redamaged the back again just under a year ago which finally required surgery. This forced me to take off 5 months from the gym which I'm sure many of you can appreciate how difficult it was to lay around as I watched my body soften. Anyway I've been back at the weights and would like to use a cycle to increase my recovery and hopefully bring me back stronger. I prefer to go natural for the most part, but I definitely need the help now.

With that novel stated (sorry for the length guys) I'd love any suggestions on the stack and amounts you guys would recommend. My initial thought was equipose+Primobolan - methenolone - +Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - in a longer cycle to build up sustaining lean muscle. This of course is assuming I can find these and I'm sure the market has changed in 5 years.

Does this sound like a decent approach or would it be better to run primobolan by itself for 8-10 weeks, take a break, and then come back with a smaller stack?

Thanks again everyone, I appreciate any advice!!
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well it looks like there is a few things the docs never told you..

1.pct you need to learn about pct because its most likely the reason your test was low and there was no reason for you to go on hrt.
2.you keep getting hurt...steroids make your muscles grow stronger and faster then your bones and joints so you need to watch out for this and take it easy and give them time to catch up.
3 forget the deca just run test for your first time coming back.ether that or primo
4.deff come of cycle and do pct with hcg and some other sups like unleashed and dermacrine sustain...

 

[st8grad]

Unleashed is a very good supplement. I don't pass out supplement compliments very much. Mostly I think 99% of them are worthless or near worthless. I have been happy with Unleashed.

It's good off cycle and definitely worth running on cycle to make the most of the compounds you are putting in your body. It reduces or latches on to SHBG and makes more testosterone available for your body to use.

I'm not sure how it would compare to Proviron because I have never used it.

Decca is very supressive resulting in long lasting damage. I'd guess it's what caused your problem. Why repeat it?

Primmo is safest. E.Q. is sort of a "poor mans Primmo."

You should still try to get natural T levels as high as possible, especially "free" testosterone. Check out UNLEASHED at www.proteinfactory.com I'd strongly recommend using that prior, during and after your cycle to maintain as much natural T as possible. And have your PC T is order. With primmo you'll only need natty anti e supps but you still need HC G.

 

[sincere81oo0]

well it looks like there is a few things the docs never told you..

1.PCT - post cycle therapy - you need to learn about PCT - post cycle therapy - because its most likely the reason your test was low and there was no reason for you to go on hrt.
2.you keep getting hurt...steroids make your muscles grow stronger and faster then your bones and joints so you need to watch out for this and take it easy and give them time to catch up.
3 forget the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - just run test for your first time coming back.ether that or Primobolan - methenolone -
4.deff come of cycle and do PCT - post cycle therapy - with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and some other sups like unleashed and dermacrine sustain...

definitely use dermacrine sustain for pct and even dermacrine during the cycle.... love this stuff will vouch for it anyday!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

we love our customers nelson and I...you guys really are the best.

 

[advanced-stealth]

Very good reply.

Welcome bro.

I tend to think the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . sorta make the Primobolan - methenolone - a bit redundant. I'd go with a test base (higher than ur hrt) plus either Primobolan - methenolone - or Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . and anavar. These options would look something like this:

1-16 testosterone cypionate 500 mg ew
1-16 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600 mg ew
10-16 anavar 50-60 mg ed

or:

1-12 testosterone cypionate 500 mg ew
1-12 Primobolan - methenolone - 700 mg ew
6-12 anavar 50-60 mg ed

Keep some Arimidex - anastrozole - on hand but i dont think u'll need it. Just to be safe.
No PCT - post cycle therapy - just slide back to ur HRT.

Good luck.