I'll try to post some pics, my dad has a digi, I just hope i don't get busted by my parents, "Honey why is our 30 year old son taking pics of himself in our bathroom". I owe most of it to tren 500-mg700mg a week and 3 d-bols a day and the all out stress diet. had to force feed my self, doing Deca at 450mg a week with 3 d-bols a day with great results holding a little more water, but I have perscribed Lasix from my doc which keeps the bloat down, so also get the Potassium CL pills with it to avoid any uncertain events. I owe alot of it by waiting, in college I was offered to start but didn't know enough about it to start, so i trainied naturally for about 11 years, finally hit my natural peak about 25 so found the hook up and started using when i was 26, i am so glad i waited plus it has helped me acheive where i am at right now. alot of blood sweat, and tears went into my training. has most on this board knows what it takes