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LMAO!!!John McEnroe JUICED?!?

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"Juicin' Johnny Mac".No wonder Holmes was flipping out on the court so often,he was probably scarfing down Halo tabs prior to his matches.lol.


Wednesday, January 14, 2004


Reuters
MELBOURNE, Australia -- Andre Agassi, defending the integrity of tennis dented by the Greg Rusedski nandrolone affair, on Wednesday said he was at a "loss for words" over John McEnroe's comments about drugs in the sport.


Former world No. 1 McEnroe, now a respected broadcaster and tennis pundit, told a British newspaper on Sunday that he had been given steroids without his knowledge during his career.


"For six years I was unaware I was being given a form of steroid of the legal kind they used to give horses until they decided it was too strong even for horses," McEnroe said.



"So people have to become more aware of what they are putting into their bodies. In general people are administered drugs too readily."


Agassi, in Melbourne before the defense of his Australian Open crown, was incredulous.


"Well, you try to find the understanding in why some people choose to say the things that they do and in reference to those specific quotes or admissions, I am not quite sure who that benefits.


"I just find myself (at) a bit of a loss for words when it comes to that sort of stuff being expressed. I'm not sure what to say about that."


With the media focus on Rusedski and the Briton's admission last week that he had tested positive for the banned steroid nandrolone at a tournament in the U.S. in July, Agassi once again leapt to the defence of the sport.


"Our game is built on sportsmanship, it's built on respect for the game, and I think there were many years when it wasn't the business that it is today," he said.


"As the nature of the game has changed I think it has left room for the potential, like any other sport, for the odd person to look for an advantage, even an unfair advantage.


"But with that being said, I believe the game has evolved every bit as quickly when it comes to the process of detecting the cheats.


"I just find that every positive test that may come out is a reflection of just how serious our drug-testing program is.


"I think we have moved with the times, I think it is a very healthy approach towards the drug-testing process."


Rusedski says he is convinced he will be cleared of any wrongdoing at a hearing in Montreal on Feb. 9.


He says that more than 40 top tennis players have shown "elevated levels" of the substance, and argues that he is being singled out.
 
So would that be EQ or Winny? Those are the only two I know are obviously horse related.
I find it hard to believe that one could be given EQ and not know since it is injections - unless he was getting "B12" injections.

Anything to allow you to recover more quickly and have more hard workouts in a week.

Steroids don't mean one is going to be large, that is dependent on training and diet.
Steroids (at least the kinds used in aerobic sports) are used to increase the number of workouts one can do and decrease the amount of rest one needs.
 
jerkbox said:
probably winny

yeah, that would be reasonable to take orally and technically not know it.

hell, Ben Johnson had winny in his water bottle when he failed his tests (the first time that is) - one of the many reasons people feel he was setup since you really would have no need to put winny in your water bottle the days around your competition.
That said, just looking at his yellow eyes one might guess that he was on a lot of shit.
 
i read his autobiography a couple years back. i figured a guy with a life as cool as john mcenroe would write a fascinating book. turns out i was wrong. it couldn't have been more poorly written or have less interesting stories about his incredible personal life.

the whole book was a description of his tennis matches. "i was behind in the second set and came back strong!" zzzzzzzzzzz

i was hoping to hear juicy stories of his rivalry with jimmy conner and his marriage to drug girl tatum o'neal and her father ryan and stepmom farrah... there was NOTHING in there about roid use.
 
yawn
 
:lmao:
 
WHy would a tennis player take nandrolone is just something I cant understand. It remains in your system for up to 18 months, and mostly a bulking drug. Gh and test suspension would make more sense. Oh maybe Rusedski was affraid of ED injections...
 
There have been distance runners also busted for nandrolone.

Just because in the sport of body building it is known/used for one thing doesn't mean it doesn't have other uses in other sports.
The general idea in endurance events would be anything that would add glycogen retention while not adding water weight.

I personally wouldn't think nandrolone would be the go to move, but it does show up a lot (most likely due to it being around so long).
That and it being related to so many other things in terms of metabolites that there are perhaps a lot of false positives as well.
 
I guess my comment about adding glycogen retention while not adding water weight is pretty funny now that I look at it since holding glycogen requires a significant amount of water with that (I forget the figures but it is like 3 "parts" water per 1 "part" water ... nobody says "parts", wtf).

But I meant additional bloat beyond that...

I'll shut up.
 
are we sure he wasnt taking something like clen and they are blowing it out of proportion like they alwasy do bc I think the other guy had high concentrations of albuterol in his system
 
OMGWTFBBQ said:
would clen help increase his reaction times (or I guess decrease them)?

was it used on horses?

Clen is used on horses. But on livestock, it has bulking properties since they have lot of beta-3 (?) receptors. I know for a fact, that clen wouldnt help my reaction time but rather screwed up everything. Makes me shaky. But maybe on someone else things would be different.
 
winny and eq have great benefits for athletes.

winny can really help with strength and quickness and recovery

eq can help with endurance and training

as mentioned before roids are not just for BB'ers :)

and i think he knew what he was doing....
 
I agree with manny on this but the other day someone was caught using clen and the article talked about its anabolic properties and it doenst have anabolic properties at the doses humans can handle. im pretty sure clen is used on race horses bc it helps them breath better. if anything it may have helped his endurance, no drug I know of can make reaction times better
 
IJ26 said:
I agree with manny on this but the other day someone was caught using clen and the article talked about its anabolic properties and it doenst have anabolic properties at the doses humans can handle. im pretty sure clen is used on race horses bc it helps them breath better. if anything it may have helped his endurance, no drug I know of can make reaction times better

Stimulants can improve reaction time. I just did a search on it.
 
he probably used nandrolone for joint purposes......

deca is HUGE among collegiate and pro baseball pitchers for that reason....and i know this for a fact.
 
he sure coulda fooled me!

why in the world do you not now your on juice?

how do you get injections and NOT know whats in it?

BO-DEN
 
BO-DEN said:
how do you get injections and NOT know whats in it?

I agree that he likely knew - much the same way that the guys like Barry Bonds in the current scandal knew but they will claim they didn't.

That said, if it is oral, or if they are saying that they are giving B12 injections, either way you wouldn't know if you weren't into it.
 
OMGWTFBBQ said:
holding glycogen requires a significant amount of water with that (I forget the figures but it is like 3 "parts" water per 1 "part" water ... nobody says "parts", wtf).


you sure it's not 2 parts water?
 
I hear those badminton guys have some off the hook cycles.
 
Lumberg said:


read your post again.

LMFAO

I didn't even see that.

That reminds me of a drink generator that we found in college my soph year when we were way into drinking.
It would randomly generate a name, then randomly give you drink ingredients in random amounts.

So it was very easy to get something like:
"Flaming Asshole"
1oz Vodka
2oz Tobasco sauce
1oz chocolate syrup
2oz Vodka
1oz Vodka
 
Man some of you are so naive. All professional modern day pro athletes have used performance enhancing drugs and if they say they never have they are lying. THG has only woke some of you up to the truth. Before the reclassification we used to pass that shit around like candy. Now everyone is so paranoid and they are ruining their health. Lets make it all legal and have doctors monitor us.

http://www.theorator.com/bills108/s1780.html
 
Freaky Gear God said:
All professional modern day pro athletes have used performance enhancing drugs and if they say they never have they are lying.

everyone knows this..

its just stupid that ..

-he admits to it.

-he says he didnt know he was using it.

everyone from figure skaters to water polo stars use drugs.



BO-DEN
 
At the end of the day, the better tennis player will usually win the match.

In athletics and power sports with little technical ability, drug use is a major concern, but steroids won't improve your serving technique or your volley or your backhand etc.
 
They might add 25mph to your serve.
 
Dial_tone said:
They might add 25mph to your serve.

there's plenty of guys with big serves on the tour who can't break the top 100. Mark Phillipousis has the biggest serve in the game on a consistant basis yet his grand slam record is quite poor.
 
vinylgroover said:
steroids won't improve your serving technique or your volley or your backhand etc.

More you practice, better it will get. And what helps you practice more? BINGO
 
An interview with: JENNIFER CAPRIATI
MODERATOR: Questions for Jennifer.


Q. How do you feel about the tour's possibility of starting random off-site drug testing?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: Oh, I didn't hear anything about that. Random off-site?

Q. Yes.

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: Well, it's news to me. I don't know. I mean, I think that's a bit of an invasion. You know, so, I don't know. Something to think about. I don't know if they're really going to go through with that or not. I guess we'll have to see.

Q. Why do you think it's an invasion?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: Well, I just don't think they have any right to kind of see what's going on inside your body, whatever, even if you're not doing anything. It's just I've never heard of anything to be concerned about anyways, if anyone for steroids are getting tested for that or getting caught with that. I don't see really what the point would be.

Q. Do you have a sense of how widespread the use of steroids is?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: No. You mean, like in all sports?

Q. On the tour.

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: I have no idea.

Q. Do you think anybody uses steroids?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: No.

Q. There's three guys on the ATP Tour who were caught for performance enhancement.

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: Well, the guys is another story.

Q. You think with the women it would be something completely different, where using performance enhancing drugs would really never be tempting or necessary or what?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: I mean maybe, but it's never happened. Maybe if there is a real question or someone was in question, then I could see the point. But until then, no, I don't think that's something you have to get started, you know, kind of dive into that. It's a whole other issue.
 
perkele said:


More you practice, better it will get. And what helps you practice more? BINGO

way too simplistic perkele. Natural instincts play a huge role in how good a tennis player will be.......you can never replace that with practice or steroids.

In the wmen's game it can make a much bigger difference granted, because the power differential can be far greater between someone on juice and not, but in the men's it is far less a factor.
 
vinylgroover said:


there's plenty of guys with big serves on the tour who can't break the top 100. Mark Phillipousis has the biggest serve in the game on a consistant basis yet his grand slam record is quite poor.


No doubt, but if you take a guy who already has the other skills and add 15mph to his serve now you're talkin turkey. It's all a power game now with racket sweet spots the size of 3rd world countries you can't miss the ball. The volley is dead.
 
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