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Liver values

Hey peeps,
just had bloods done and my liver values are through the roof. I don't want to say what it was but can anyone give me an idea what a real dangerous value is.
ps anabol, never again!
 
Which values were up? There are several liver values. the only thing to really help you out is to stop taking the drug and get retested in a few weeks.

I am not real big on herbal remedies for something like this, but then again others swear by it.
 
klausflouride said:
Hey peeps,
just had bloods done and my liver values are through the roof. I don't want to say what it was but can anyone give me an idea what a real dangerous value is.
ps anabol, never again!

Sure, I'll help you out here with some numbers.

These are the numbers I had when I was as sick as a dog, suffering from 'cholestatic jaundice'. This is where the liver stops secreting bile so conjugated bilirubin doesn't get eliminated through the duodenum as it should and leaks back into the blood stream causing jaundice. This is no good! This problem is commonly caused by ingestion of oral C-17-alkylated steroids such as the anabol you were using.

Read my brief report about this in another thread http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/have-you-had-liver-damage-oral-steroids-512098.html

ALP: 283.01 (normal value 0 - 270 U/L)
SGOT/AST: 109.74 (normal value 10 - 40 U/L)
SGPT/ALT: 207.26 (normal value 4 - 38 U/L)

Direct Bilirubin: 63.69 (normal value up to 4.3 µmol/L)
Total Bilirubin: 147.09 (normal value up to 18.8 µmol/L)

You may have to do a conversion because bilirubin is often indicated in mg/dl.

(to convert from mg/dl to µmol/L multiply by 17.1)

Elevated plasma conjugated (direct) bilirubin causes jaundice. This becomes visible as a yellowing of the skin and eyes when the direct bilirubin reaches around 35 - 50 µmol/L (first the eyes, then the skin). Before yellowing of the eyes is noticeable it's likely severe pruritus will begin. I start to itch when my direct bilirubin levels reach the high 20's. For me it was living hell for 2 months.

Why not share your results and symptoms here so we can all learn from your mistakes.
 
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klausflouride said:
Hey peeps,
just had bloods done and my liver values are through the roof. I don't want to say what it was but can anyone give me an idea what a real dangerous value is.
ps anabol, never again!
if you dont mind me asking, how much and how long did you run? and did drink at all ?

my friend is getting ready to run some for the first time.
 
how long after your cycle and/or P C T did you get bloodwork done? Speaking from experience, it can take several months before liver values and lipids go back to normal... I've even used Liv-52, etc. to help maintain liver values and they came back elevated... OTC supplements may help, but they're not miracle-workers.

So the simple answer could be just give it some more time... stay away from anything that could further tax your liver for a while (alcohol, OTC medications, etc.)... get tested again in another month.
 
klausflouride said:
Hey peeps,
just had bloods done and my liver values are through the roof. I don't want to say what it was but can anyone give me an idea what a real dangerous value is.
ps anabol, never again!

The liver has remarkable rejenerative properties.

Just stating what you have though, really not enough information to give you any sort of decent appraisal.

Things like GGT shoot through the roof with just a bit of alcohol, it is not a big deal, they will drop back again quite quickly.
 
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