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abxavier

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I'm roughly 130lbs, 5'5". I have not gotten my body fat tested as i'm not sure how or where to go to get it done.

I'm not trying to lose weight, really. Just body fat. I know many women have those stubborn fat storage areas. I.E. lower abs, love handles, thighs and butt. I have the lower abs curse. I've been working out religiously for over a year. 5 days a week, most weeks. No less than 4 unless i'm unusually busy on any given week. I work abs at least 3 days a week and am not seeing ANY results in the lower area. I have abs of steel for the first 4packs. And i'm sure I do have a 6pack, underneath the blubber. It's just a matter of shedding the rest of it. My other problem area is my love handles. I'm obliques are there, also underneath some blubber. My legs are great. It's just those two areas. Starting today, i'm doing cardio monday, wed and fridays for 30mins each. I also work in with my bf. So today i'll be doing back and cardio and maybe light bi's to get ready for tomorrow's workout. I don't eat the best because I eat to get full, so I don't get 6 meals in a day. And because I work in retail, I don't get much time to just sit and nibble on carrots and celery all the time. My bf is putting me on a better diet plan, and i'm working on reading up on diet and nutrition. I do take a women's vitamin every morning after breakfast, however. And I have no medical problems to date.

Now that that's said, I want something to just boost what i'm starting. I've heard a lot about both ECA and lipoflame. I just want to hear from the ladies with experience, which is better for me? In the last year alone, i've lost maybe 15lbs by just adding exercise to my life. And i've tried OTC stuff. Nothing worked. Got jitters. But nothing ever noticeable. So, basically, I need all the info I can get on the product you ladies think is best for me? I'm leaning more toward lipoflame.

Thanks in advance.
 
lipoflame all the way - it will intensify your workouts - in turn increasing calorie burn.

BUT - I'm sure you know this already -that stubborn lower belly fat is DIET and DIET and DIET. Trust me, I was stubborn too. It doesn't take carrots and celery. Matter of fact, quit the opposite. We'd be glad to help if you post your new diet.

Also - I'd up the cardio if I were you. Can you share what type of cardio you are doing and at what speed/incline/how long/heart rate...etc?
 
Like most women, i'm the type that thinks if I eat too much, i'll get fat. Now that i've been reading up and reading quite the opposite, today i'm starting a new diet. I was maybe getting 3 big meals a day, or at least big enough to fill me for a couple of hours. I'm a junk food junkee. So starting today, i'm done with candy bars and candy in general. I'm going to start the 6 small meals a day thing. So far i've had cereal- cheerios. That's all i've got for now. The others I have are fruity types. two hours later, I ate two scrambled eggs and orange juice. I'm about to head to the gym and after the gym, i'll be munching on peanuts and apples and carrots (while at work.) Few hours later, i'll be eating a turkey and cheese sandwich. After that, i'm not quite sure. If you have some input on things I can eat and some things to get at the store, i'd greatly appreciate it.

I used to do cardio once a week for an hour. Depending on how I felt that day, i'd do stairs at 10spd and eliptical at 6 or 7 incline at 30mins each. Today i'll be doing either/or for 30mins.
 
If it comes from the ground~ I eat it
If it comes out of a box(processed) I leave it!!
Be careful with the nuts as they are high in fat and you can easily overeat your 1 oz serving.
 
abxavier said:
Like most women, i'm the type that thinks if I eat too much, i'll get fat. Now that i've been reading up and reading quite the opposite, today i'm starting a new diet. I was maybe getting 3 big meals a day, or at least big enough to fill me for a couple of hours. I'm a junk food junkee. So starting today, i'm done with candy bars and candy in general. I'm going to start the 6 small meals a day thing. So far i've had cereal- cheerios. That's all i've got for now. The others I have are fruity types. two hours later, I ate two scrambled eggs and orange juice. I'm about to head to the gym and after the gym, i'll be munching on peanuts and apples and carrots (while at work.) Few hours later, i'll be eating a turkey and cheese sandwich. After that, i'm not quite sure. If you have some input on things I can eat and some things to get at the store, i'd greatly appreciate it.

I used to do cardio once a week for an hour. Depending on how I felt that day, i'd do stairs at 10spd and eliptical at 6 or 7 incline at 30mins each. Today i'll be doing either/or for 30mins.
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As Ironwings has asked, could you post your diet? post everything you eat and drink, from the time you get up to the time you go to sleep.
I know you're trying to eat healthier then what you were eating, but fruit, cheerios and bread is not the way to go.

You also need to do more cardio and weight training.
 
"Depending on how I felt that day"

We all fall into this trap. Consistency is key - whether you feel like it or not. You will find that once you are done it was all just fine. It should become a task just like putting gas in your car or paying a bill. I know it is easier said then done - trust me.

Food...cereal? Throw it away ;-)

Take a look through mommalu's journal - Thandie has given her some basic meal ideas. Your main concern should be protein, healthy fats, and clean carbs. A few basic guidelines to get you started are:

1. eat from the ground not the box
2. don't mix carbs
3. cut off your carb intake after 6pm (3 preferably but if you are like me I can't sleep when I do this)
4. know how many calories you need
5. decrease sodium and sugar intake (read your labels - you'd be suprised)
6. drink water, water, water (green tea is good too)
7. sleep - get plenty of it
8. understand that your mind is reasoning with you all the time - don't listen to it - it is seperate from your being - learn this and you'll never struggle with any of this
7. don't start all of this at once - it is a journey - try one thing at a time and build upon it

I think you might become frustrated if you start right off trying to get 6 meals in a day. Although this is ideal for most people - it isn't for everyone. I only eat 4 (5 on days I lift). I have a similar schedule as you - I am with clients all day so it is also hard for me to eat like that. 4 or 5 work just as well for me - I've done both. I would recommend you start with eating breakfast (protein, healthy fat, and possible a few carbs). Then split your lunch into two meals (protein, healthy fat, and carbs). Then you'll find you won't be starving at dinner time and will eat more sensibly (protein and a little healthy fat). Once you get used to this and it is going well - think about splitting your breakfast into two meals. You'll eventually get there.

Tom Venuto - a natural bodybuilder and diet author recommends his top 10 foods in each category (i concur)

HE WRITES:

Clean carbs and grains
1. Oatmeal (old fashioned or steel cut)
2. Yams
3. brown rice
4. Sweet potatoes
5. Multi grain hot cereal (mix or barley, oats, rye titricale and a few others)
6. White potatoes (glycemic index be damned!) - keep these to early in the day, preferably after workout
7. 100% whole wheat bread
8. 100% whole wheat pasta
9. Beans (great for healthy chili recipes)
10. Cream of rice hot cereal

vegetables
1. broccoli
2. asparagus
3. spinach
4. salad greens
5. tomatoes
6. peppers (green and red)
7. onions
8. mushrooms
9. cucumbers
10. Zucchini

lean proteins
1. Egg whites
2. Whey protein (protein powder supplement)
3. Chicken Breast
4. Salmon (wild alaskan)
5. Turkey Breast
6. Top round steak (grass fed beef)
7. Flank Steak (grass fed beef)
8. Cod Fish
9. Bison/Buffalo
10. Rainbow Trout

fruits - go easy on these and preferably keep them to early day/post workout
1. Grapefruit
2. Apples
3. Blueberries
4. Canteloupe
5. Oranges
6. Bananas
7. Peaches
8. Grapes
9. Strawberries
10. Pineapple

I'm getting ready to update my journal too with my diet/new workouts. Many others have great journals too that you can learn tons from. Matter of fact, another good one to look at is LocalGirl's.

Keep posting...
 
With work, sometimes its hard to get a last meal in before 7:30(heard about oprah's whole thing on not eating after that time.) And because I don't go to bed at 9 or 10 (well after 10, some nights) its hard to sleep on a hungry stomach.

And I didn't mean "depending on how I felt that day" as in it depended if I felt like doing cardio... I mean, it depended on what cardio machine I felt up to doing that day. I have a hard time building the energy I need to get me going. I did cardio today for 30 minutes. I did 15 on an eliptical and 15 on the stairs at 10spd (using the fat burning one.) Eliptical I did on 5 incline to work the butt and legs the most. Before that, I worked back. And I did heavier weights this time. On some, I even had to have the bf help me a little on pulling it down. Heh. I know i'll be sore in the morning. My chest is even still sore from saturday. So, there's no doubt I weight lift pretty heavily- heavy enough to work a sweat and even grunt a little in between. I just have to get the cardio thing down, which isn't even bad for me. Most days, I don't mind doing cardio at all. I played soccer all through high school, and though it's been a little while, I still have that running streak in me. Somewhere.
Today, I started with cereal (which is probably one of my biggest enemies. though I have oatmeal in the cabnet, so i'll start eating that instead.) A few hours later, I ate 2 scrambled eggs with orange juice. While at work, I ate a few carrots, celery, a few small cheese blocks and an apple. I didn't even touch my sandwich or the peanuts. Didn't have much time to. When I got off, I had a few of my bf's chicken nuggets. And I drank water all through the day, of course. It is hard to get those small meals in when i'm used to just eating 3 big ones. But it wasn't too bad.
I'm thinking about going ahead and ordering some lipoflame. A guy told me that I should take that AND a certain kind of ephedrine together. Good idea or no?
 
I personally don't like to combine them - but I am very sensitive to that stuff and concerned about elevating my heart rate from a substance. I would absolutely try just the lipoflame first. Take it right before your workouts (I mean right before - like 10 to 15 minutes).

I can tell by what you wrote that you are not getting enough calories, particularly clean calories and almost no protein (chicken nuggets don't count). It takes protein to build muscle. It isn't all about calories. If you go about it this way you may lose some weight but it WILL come back. You can't eat like that forever. I would work on making sustainable changes.

I know it is difficult with what you do. I used to say the same thing. But, it is an excuse. I know you don't want to hear that. Get creative and find moments to eat and get a consistent schedule down. Don't use your job or any other activity as a reason you can't eat properly or timely. Remember what I said about the protein, fat and carbs in each meal. That is the first step. Work on getting those macros every time you eat.

Keep up the workouts! You come to enjoy that sore feeling!
 
I know its not a substitute for actually getting protein, but I know I need to get some powder. Do you know any powder thats not very nasty? The kind my bf uses is pretty disgusting. Almost gag-able. The personal trainer I know said I need protein powder with about 20-40g of protein in it.

If you have any suggestions on what I should do about eating, please let me know. I don't want to lose weight the unhealthy way. I'm eating oatmeal right now. Should I make a few eggs too?
 
And also, I think i'm going to change up my work outs... I read a lot about over training, and I think I might be. This is usually my schedule...
Monday- Back, cardio
Tuesday- shoulders, light bi's, abs
Wednesday- bi's, light tri's, cardio
thursday- off (sometimes I have to switch up on days off because of work.. don't know if thats a good thing. Sometimes I have to take wednesdays or fridays off)
friday- legs, calves, abs, cardio
sat- off
sunday- cardio and abs

I think I might be over training.... If you have a better schedule I could follow, that'd be great.

And thank you so much, ironwings, for all your help!
 
abxavier said:
I know its not a substitute for actually getting protein, but I know I need to get some powder. Do you know any powder thats not very nasty? The kind my bf uses is pretty disgusting. Almost gag-able. The personal trainer I know said I need protein powder with about 20-40g of protein in it.

If you have any suggestions on what I should do about eating, please let me know. I don't want to lose weight the unhealthy way. I'm eating oatmeal right now. Should I make a few eggs too?
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Dymatize Elite Whey is one of my favorites taste awesome IMO. You could add some egg whites to your oatmeal mix it up add some cinnamon cook it with some none fat spray kinda like a pancake.
 
I took the chocolate whey isolate for a few days about a month ago.... I couldn't handle it... I didn't know what I could mix it with to make it taste a little better... My stomach is very sensitive, I guess. I can't even drink one beer without feeling sick (or any alcoholic beverage... but this is just an example.) My stomach can't handle the nasty stuff. I'll feel sick the rest of the day.
 
abxavier said:
I took the chocolate whey isolate for a few days about a month ago.... I couldn't handle it... I didn't know what I could mix it with to make it taste a little better... My stomach is very sensitive, I guess. I can't even drink one beer without feeling sick (or any alcoholic beverage... but this is just an example.) My stomach can't handle the nasty stuff. I'll feel sick the rest of the day.
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Well you don't have to have whey to get in your protien. If you cook up a lot of chicken just dived up into about 3 oz serving have that 5-6 times a day your golden. I do all my cooking on Sunday pack it up for the week so I don't have to think about it. I have some friend that do there the night before but I am to dam tired and lazy after the gym I just want to shower and veg for a bit before going to bed.
Also there is PVL's whey coolers which are kind of juice like you mix with water. I like the peach or ice tea see if you can get samples at a local store. Let them know you have a senstive stomach and don't want to be stuck with a tub you can't stand. Also I think GNC has a return policy double check but I recall being able to buy and try. I got a nasty flavour once back in the day and returned it no problem.
 
abxavier said:
And also, my bf takes fish oil pills..... should I be taking some too?
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Yes, fish oil is very good for you. You can take it as well.

Protein Powder.
I like Lean Body for Her by Labrada. My fav is the vanilla, but they have chocolate, which is good and strawberry, which I have not tried.
 
Alright. Thanks so much!! I'm so glad I found this site.
I just ordered some lipoflame and am excited to try it out. How long does it take, usually, to get to you? I live in the u.s. of course (lucky me.) It was $6.95 shipping. Sheesh.
Also, I take multiv for women. gotta lot of good stuff in it. Figured since I don't get much in my meals, that'd help a bit. I've been taking it for about a month now. So i'll start taking the fish oil pills also. Is there anything else you can think of that i'd need or should take to help me along?

And you say you don't worry about protein through the week and just pack in a lot on sundays? That'd be fantastic if I could do that so I wouldn't have to worry about how much protein I had that day..
What I could really use is a diet plan. I'm getting a lot of great ideas from reading other posts and some of the things you've all been saying. I gotta hit up the grocery store when I get paid in a few days to get more food. Any specific things I need to get there? I know a lot of meats, and I drink 2% milk. Couldn't stand the skim milk. My tum tum is just too sensitive to nasties.
And also, a good workout routine. I've just been working out with the bf. The schedule I posted is what he does. He makes me push until I can't anymore, which is why I love working with him. If there's any tweaks you think i'd need on my routine, i'd love your input. Thanks again!!!!! I appreciate it so much!!
 
I think working out with your BF is fantastic to be honest the plan you follow looks pretty good but I noticed there was no chest training in there. Also it is possible that you are over training your bies as you have 2 workouts in there for it and if you consider when you train back they get hit a far bit as well that is 3 times in 1 week no chance for recovery.
As for getting your protein in all in one day sorry hun no dice. :) Have you tried 1% milk? It would cut down the fat but not be as watery as skim milk. Also I thought of another thing for protein tuna packs those things save me over contest prep as I have stash with me for just incase meals.
As for actual meal plans that is something you need to play with yourself it is so idividual I can eat the same meals 5 times a day for 3 months and be fine with it but I know I am weird like that. LOL
 
I saw that you don't like "nasties" - me either. I have no tolerance for it. For your shakes try this:

1 cup unflavored, unsweetened soy milk (milk has a lot of sugar in it), scoop whey protein (I like unflavored but whatever you want here is fine), ice (you'll have to play with how much to get a consistency you like), AND a tbsp of sugar free instant pudding mix (any flavor). You can add some berries too if you'd like. A favorite of mine is banana cream pudding and fresh strawberries. - This isn't a pack and go shake. You'll want to drink it as soon as you make it.

There are tons of other recipes but this one is very basic and you can play with flavors.
 
I do chest too, it just switches up when I get the chance to, if i'm not working that night. My bf has a schedule that I like to follow with him. He'll switch it up sometimes and do chest on saturday or sunday. When I don't work, I go and do it. I got chest in this last saturday. My chest is STILL sore today. I love it! Did back yesterday. Feels very good today too. :). Today he's doing shoulders.

Do you know a good nutrition website that lists all the good fats and bads and what I can eat and shouldn't? Basically to help me get a good feel of what I really should be eating.
 
Also, since lipoflame will be coming soon, how do I cycle this stuff? 30mins before workout, but is there like 2wks on, 1wk off type thing with it?
 
Take it 15 minutes or so before your workouts (cardio or strength). No cycling necessary - watch how you are feeling pretty closely. You'll know when you want to take a break from it.

I posted a list of foods early on. Those are key foods for a figure athlete (minus the fruit close to comp). Remember the #1 key is nothing processed. It takes time and effort to build a diet like this. Don't get discouraged - start slowly by adding a new goal each week and before you know it you'll be eating clean!

Clean carbs and grains
1. Oatmeal (old fashioned or steel cut)
2. Yams
3. brown rice
4. Sweet potatoes
5. Multi grain hot cereal (mix or barley, oats, rye titricale and a few others)
6. White potatoes (glycemic index be damned!) - keep these to early in the day, preferably after workout
7. 100% whole wheat bread
8. 100% whole wheat pasta
9. Beans (great for healthy chili recipes)
10. Cream of rice hot cereal

vegetables
1. broccoli
2. asparagus
3. spinach
4. salad greens
5. tomatoes
6. peppers (green and red)
7. onions
8. mushrooms
9. cucumbers
10. Zucchini

lean proteins
1. Egg whites
2. Whey protein (protein powder supplement)
3. Chicken Breast
4. Salmon (wild alaskan)
5. Turkey Breast
6. Top round steak (grass fed beef)
7. Flank Steak (grass fed beef)
8. Cod Fish
9. Bison/Buffalo
10. Rainbow Trout

fruits - go easy on these and preferably keep them to early day/post workout
1. Grapefruit
2. Apples
3. Blueberries
4. Canteloupe
5. Oranges
6. Bananas
7. Peaches
8. Grapes
9. Strawberries
10. Pineapple
 
I added oatmeal to my breakfast. I've always eaten wheat bread, it just hasn't always been whole wheat. I think a lot of the vegetables listed are gross... any advice on putting them in a meal to make it better? 1, 2, 3, 7 and 10 are not my thing. Is it bad to eat the yellow egg yolk with scrambled eggs? I can do all the fruit, and I don't eat fish. Eck. Also, how many pills do I take of the lipoflame each day?
 
abxavier said:
I added oatmeal to my breakfast. I've always eaten wheat bread, it just hasn't always been whole wheat. I think a lot of the vegetables listed are gross... any advice on putting them in a meal to make it better? 1, 2, 3, 7 and 10 are not my thing. Is it bad to eat the yellow egg yolk with scrambled eggs? I can do all the fruit, and I don't eat fish. Eck. Also, how many pills do I take of the lipoflame each day?
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Your too funny. I'm probably the last person to advise on cooking. I think of food as fuel, cook them up in a crock pot with some chicken and there you go. Or simply eat the ones you can handle. You'll notice a lot of the ladies on here have a very small list of foods they eat from.

If you aren't trying to lose much body fat a yolk mixed with egg whites isn't so bad. But, why not eat all egg whites?(or I really like egg beaters even though it is a processed food). Think of it this way - the yolk is where all the cholesterol and fat is. Not that fat is a bad thing but we want to reduce it and this is a great starter.

Not sure how much wheat bread you are eating but don't go crazy with it. Most swear it off completely. You really have to watch out for the sugar content and all the processed ingredients in it.

Until you get your list of foods and meal timing down you may want to follow some age old dieting - ban sugar (including artificial), ban caffeine, ban wheat products, dairy products, processed food, and alcohol. This isn't sustainable for most people but can jump start a plan while preparing for a more sustainable healthy diet.

Make it a lifestyle and you'll be extremely thankful as you age. Why don't you start to journal what you are eating and the ladies on the board will be glad to give you advice? It is much easier to make tweaks to what you are actually eating rather than spitting out advice on the fly. Thandie is a great diet mentor.

Lipoflame - start with one before workout. Gradually up your dose as you feel you can handle it. Do this slowly - trust me. Most women take 2 or 3. Recommended dose is 4, but take your body weight in consideration. The product is marketed to males.
 
Wow, I didn't know egg yolk was that bad.. Hm.. What are the egg whites important for? I don't eat much bread, unless i've taken a sandwich to work for lunch. I don't have a microwave or anything like that at work so its hard to bring something that needs a little extra kick. And I hate going to eat down at the food court, but sometimes that's my only option. When I eat down there, its usually subway. But even then, subway isn't the best. I usually get the chicken salad. No bread there for me. I think that's what i'll just end up doing today. But i'll need to bring something to eat in the mean-time while waiting on a coworker to get in so I can go down and get the salad. I'll try adding more vegetables to my salad as well. I usually only get cucumbers, pickles, lettuce of course, cheese and the chicken. I'll add a few olives, tomatoes, and maybe a few other things. So far, i've been eating at least 4 times a day. Way better than what I usually do. And i've knocked cereal out of my diet unless there's absolutely nothing else I can eat at home.

For lunch yesterday, I ate peas and tuna. I can't eat tuna very much cause of my sensitive tummy. And i've been taking the fish oil pills. Lucky for me, I knocked caffeine out a long time ago. I stopped drinking pop at least a year ago. And I don't drink coffee very often, if at all. I haven't had any candy in 3 days! And I said no to a big chocolate chip cookie yesterday! lol.

It'd be really hard to ban dairy products though. VERY. I think all the others would be pretty easy. I don't drink alcohol anymore. In fact, I said no at least ten times last night. Thats surprising for me, on new years. The only one i'd have real trouble with is dairy, for sure. I love milk and cheese.

Anyhow, off to work for 9 hours! yay. I'll post my diet up for the last three days later tonight.

Thanks ladies!
 
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Wow, I didn't know egg yolk was that bad.. Hm.. What are the egg whites important for? I don't eat much bread, unless i've taken a sandwich to work for lunch. I don't have a microwave or anything like that at work so its hard to bring something that needs a little extra kick. And I hate going to eat down at the food court, but sometimes that's my only option. When I eat down there, its usually subway. But even then, subway isn't the best. I usually get the chicken salad. No bread there for me. I think that's what i'll just end up doing today. But i'll need to bring something to eat in the mean-time while waiting on a coworker to get in so I can go down and get the salad. I'll try adding more vegetables to my salad as well. I usually only get cucumbers, pickles, lettuce of course, cheese and the chicken. I'll add a few olives, tomatoes, and maybe a few other things. So far, i've been eating at least 4 times a day. Way better than what I usually do. And i've knocked cereal out of my diet unless there's absolutely nothing else I can eat at home.

For lunch yesterday, I ate peas and tuna. I can't eat tuna very much cause of my sensitive tummy. And i've been taking the fish oil pills. Lucky for me, I knocked caffeine out a long time ago. I stopped drinking pop at least a year ago. And I don't drink coffee very often, if at all. I haven't had any candy in 3 days! And I said no to a big chocolate chip cookie yesterday! lol.

It'd be really hard to ban dairy products though. VERY. I think all the others would be pretty easy. I don't drink alcohol anymore. In fact, I said no at least ten times last night. Thats surprising for me, on new years. The only one i'd have real trouble with is dairy, for sure. I love milk and cheese.

Anyhow, off to work for 9 hours! yay. I'll post my diet up for the last three days later tonight.

Thanks ladies!
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No, yolks are not bad for you, in fact they are loaded with omega 3 therefore they're good and will help soften your skin in addition to other positive things.
However, they also help elevate the bad cholesterol so the idea is (for a woman) 1 yolk is good. I get about 30 grams of fat per day.. I count that 5 grams of fat from the yolk, but once I need to lower my fat; the first thing that goes is the yolk. Use that as a consideration. Egg whites are pure protein, which is great to build muscles.


I suggest you might want to bring a salad to work. You said you only have the bread for lunch. Bread everyday is not a good idea. Anything you have on a daily basis, it adds up, whether is good or bad. The idea is to be consistently good so that adds up.

Dairy, sugar, bread, coffee, proccessed foods all of those things you can ban, however you don't have to do it overnight. just be consisting in making changes. One step at a time.
If you have bread 5 days per week (for instance)have it 3 times per week for a couple of weeks, then once, then none. That's how you make changes. If you cut everything overnight, you'll crave it and get tired and frustrated and go right back thinking you just can't do it.

I used to live on dairy and finally back fired on me and became lactose intolerant. I was also getting chronic headaches as a result, which stopped once I stopped the dairy. Dairy products covers your organs with a mucus film- hence the sinus and headaches. Sorry to be gross..
I'm so glad I can't have it anymore.
 
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Wow, I didn't know egg yolk was that bad.. Hm.. What are the egg whites important for? I don't eat much bread, unless i've taken a sandwich to work for lunch. I don't have a microwave or anything like that at work so its hard to bring something that needs a little extra kick. And I hate going to eat down at the food court, but sometimes that's my only option. When I eat down there, its usually subway. But even then, subway isn't the best. I usually get the chicken salad. No bread there for me. I think that's what i'll just end up doing today. But i'll need to bring something to eat in the mean-time while waiting on a coworker to get in so I can go down and get the salad. I'll try adding more vegetables to my salad as well. I usually only get cucumbers, pickles, lettuce of course, cheese and the chicken. I'll add a few olives, tomatoes, and maybe a few other things. So far, i've been eating at least 4 times a day. Way better than what I usually do. And i've knocked cereal out of my diet unless there's absolutely nothing else I can eat at home.

For lunch yesterday, I ate peas and tuna. I can't eat tuna very much cause of my sensitive tummy. And i've been taking the fish oil pills. Lucky for me, I knocked caffeine out a long time ago. I stopped drinking pop at least a year ago. And I don't drink coffee very often, if at all. I haven't had any candy in 3 days! And I said no to a big chocolate chip cookie yesterday! lol.

It'd be really hard to ban dairy products though. VERY. I think all the others would be pretty easy. I don't drink alcohol anymore. In fact, I said no at least ten times last night. Thats surprising for me, on new years. The only one i'd have real trouble with is dairy, for sure. I love milk and cheese.

Anyhow, off to work for 9 hours! yay. I'll post my diet up for the last three days later tonight.

Thanks ladies!
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Looks like you are on your way!
 
Thanks thandie. I'll definitely start taking that into stride now. I'm so anxious to just be done and eating healthy, that i've been trying to throw everything out at once.

Diet today;
morning- oatmeal and water (don't have any protein supps yet. looking to get some tomorrow.)
snack- peanuts
lunch- chicken salad from subway (lettuce, pickles, black olives, cucumbers, a little bit of cheese and chicken.) and ice water
snack- more peanuts
dinner- boneless ribs and mac&cheese and water. (is that good? I mean, it was protein and pasta...)
And depending when I go to bed tonight, i'll snack on... well, I don't know. I haven't had time to go to the grocery store yet. Crap. I'll be full for quite a while though, anyway.
Do you have any advice on work outs for my lower abs? I do leg lifts, crunches, planks, oblique crunches, and... yeah I think thats it.
And also, what do you do for leg work outs? calves included.
 
abxavier said:
Thanks thandie. I'll definitely start taking that into stride now. I'm so anxious to just be done and eating healthy, that i've been trying to throw everything out at once.

Diet today;
morning- oatmeal and water (don't have any protein supps yet. looking to get some tomorrow.)
snack- peanuts
lunch- chicken salad from subway (lettuce, pickles, black olives, cucumbers, a little bit of cheese and chicken.) and ice water
snack- more peanuts
dinner- boneless ribs and mac&cheese and water. (is that good? I mean, it was protein and pasta...)
And depending when I go to bed tonight, i'll snack on... well, I don't know. I haven't had time to go to the grocery store yet. Crap. I'll be full for quite a while though, anyway.
Do you have any advice on work outs for my lower abs? I do leg lifts, crunches, planks, oblique crunches, and... yeah I think thats it.
And also, what do you do for leg work outs? calves included.
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Peanuts???????
If you want to have some nuts, I suggest about 6 for the day. You're getting a lot of fat byt having peanuts twice a day. How much did you have?
Also get rid of the maccaroni & cheese. Ouch!

What you mentioned for abs is pretty. That's all you need. Besides, the diet will bring your abs out, not how much ab exercise you do.
 
Hm, alright... No more peanuts then. Lol. What do you suggest I bring to work for snacking? Peanuts seemed to fill me up pretty nicely. I had way too many yesterday then.... oops... And alright, no more mac and cheese.
 
abxavier said:
Hm, alright... No more peanuts then. Lol. What do you suggest I bring to work for snacking? Peanuts seemed to fill me up pretty nicely. I had way too many yesterday then.... oops... And alright, no more mac and cheese.
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Snack depending on how many meals/calories you're getting.
You can get a protein shake, but you have to count that as a consideration.
Berries.
6 almonds. Now you're used to making yourself really full. You have to get used to not over eating. 6 nuts goes a long way as a snack. Rememner, it takes the brain 20 minutes to know you're full or satisfied. The problem is that we keep eating, then 20 minutes later find out we had too much.
Break your meals into 5 or 6 and count everything you eat. You probably had about 100g of fat yesterday when you need 30g.
Get the idea?
 
6 almonds is almost nothing 20-22 almonds is 1 oz and only 164 calories that to me is a more of a snack 6 almonds would be less then 50 calories.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
6 almonds is almost nothing 20-22 almonds is 1 oz and only 164 calories that to me is a more of a snack 6 almonds would be less then 50 calories.
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Not when you're already getting alot of fat. 1 oz is 15g of fat.
 
thandie said:
Not when you're already getting alot of fat. 1 oz is 15g of fat.
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It really depends on the daily macro's and diet the person is following. A very commin macro break down is 40:30:30 protein:carbs:fat which would easily accomindate a 1oz serving of almonds as a snack. In that specific break down with the mac and cheese yes less then ideal to added it in there. Good fats are not the enemy is just the point I am trying to get across.
 
I didn't have almonds though.. just regular already sliced peanuts.My older neighbor has a body fat scale.

I weigh 126.8, 23.2% body fat. Is that good? I have no idea..
 
abxavier said:
I didn't have almonds though.. just regular already sliced peanuts.My older neighbor has a body fat scale.

I weigh 126.8, 23.2% body fat. Is that good? I have no idea..
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For a women 23% is not bad it is in the healthy range however depending on how much definition you want to see it would have to be lower. What is you ultimate goal do you want to see abs?
 
Yep. Wanna see abs. No more lower belly flab. There's really not a lot there, but enough for me to be uncomfortable with it. My upper abs are great. Hard as a rock. Just the stubborn lower area. Be nice if I could lose some inner thigh fat as well. Everything else is great. I'm seeing more results in my arms since adding lbs to my weight training. I LOVE it. I'm thinking about taking some kind of supp that will help to build it. Make me stronger. Like amplify. No test. Definitely no test. Just something to help boost it.
 
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