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Lifting Intensity

When do you stop?

  • Lift until failure

    Votes: 20 80.0%
  • Lift past failure

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Lift before failure

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • Total voters
    25
so why dont u lift past failure? or do u mean forced reps as in u push yourself not a spotter?
 
IMO most intesity multipliers work great for a short while, but soon my central nervous system gets overloaded.
Simple failure on the powerlifts works best in the long run.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
IMO most intesity multipliers work great for a short while, but soon my central nervous system gets overloaded.
Simple failure on the powerlifts works best in the long run.
you are right bro- if you train to failure and incorporate drops, statics, forced reps
you HAVE to reduce some frequency, rest properly and diet has to be spot on. if i fuck up and lose sleep on this type of training i get a sore throat and feel like ass for two or three days.
 
I lift to failure as a sort of base. Then every couple of weeks i do a session for each bodypart where i focus on negatives or do drop sets or static exercises and so on. Never let the muscles get too used to anything. Keep stressing them. Keep the mofos guessing.
 
Lifting past failure (forced reps) is counter productive. Because you are simply moving a weight throught a range of motion with assistance. So why bother?

I go to the rep before failure. That means that if the tenth rep is the one where I push off and the bar stops moving and I come to a dead standstill... then I will have quit at rep 9.

I believe in volume training and there is no way you can volume train and go to, let alone past failure every set without screwing up your CNS recovery.
 
AAP said:
Lifting past failure (forced reps) is counter productive. Because you are simply moving a weight throught a range of motion with assistance. So why bother?

I go to the rep before failure. That means that if the tenth rep is the one where I push off and the bar stops moving and I come to a dead standstill... then I will have quit at rep 9.

I believe in volume training and there is no way you can volume train and go to, let alone past failure every set without screwing up your central nervous system recovery.


Is that not the same as going to failure. Do a set until you cant do it anymore? or do you always have a set number of reps and try to hit that everytime?
 
There is no "I" in failure!!! LOL

Depends... What muscle, what movement, what I am trying to achieve, etc.

I personally like to use my last sets on a muscle group to train to past failure. I feel finished off that way... drop sets, negs, spot help, and holds.

I train to failure but about every 3rd wrokout per muscle group the gloves come off and I train past failure. I feel this is a good way to shock the muscle plus not risking injury like if you went past failure every time you train.

My brother a 30 year vet sez to me all the time...
"Remember its BODYBUILDING not BODYDESTRUCTION... let the cement harden before you start building on it"

The idea here is destroying the muscle every time you train will slow down your gains.

BigGuyPHX
 
errn247 said:
Is that not the same as going to failure. Do a set until you cant do it anymore? or do you always have a set number of reps and try to hit that everytime?


No, because I stop one rep short.
 
BigGuyPHX said:
There is no "I" in failure!!! LOL

Depends... What muscle, what movement, what I am trying to achieve, etc.

I personally like to use my last sets on a muscle group to train to past failure. I feel finished off that way... drop sets, negs, spot help, and holds.

I train to failure but about every 3rd wrokout per muscle group the gloves come off and I train past failure. I feel this is a good way to shock the muscle plus not risking injury like if you went past failure every time you train.

My brother a 30 year vet sez to me all the time...
"Remember its BODYBUILDING not BODYDESTRUCTION... let the cement harden before you start building on it"

The idea here is destroying the muscle every time you train will slow down your gains.

BigGuyPHX


I agree!!! Great post!!!

Oh wait! Thats my post!

Sorry,
BigGuyPHX
 
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