Liberal proposed handgun ban !

[manny78]

Canadians, please think about it twice before you vote on jan. 23. The liberals want to ban every handgun in the country. We need to stop these cockroaches. Actions will be taken if they ever propose such legislation at the House of Common.

www.handgunban.org

www.canadiangunnutz.com

 

[manny78]

 

[redguru]

Hitler approved gun control, too. It was one of his first actions once the Nazi Party took control.

 

[manny78]

Hitler approved gun control, too. It was one of his first actions once the Nazi Party took control.

We're not going to end up like jews. if they want our guns, they'll have to fight. We're over a million handgun owners, this is one a huge army btw !

 

[MikeMartial]

LOL are you cracked? Who they hell needs handguns anyways? They were designed for killing people, not hunting.

And yes, I'm a hunter, and I own guns. But handguns are pointless, unless they are in the hands of police.

Now, the licensing fiasco that has been going on.....that's a whole different thread.

What the Liberals are proposing is good in THEORY. It's mainly political grandstanding, but the intentions are good. I seriously don't think it would change a whole lot in Canada as it is, since most handguns are obtained illegally anways.

But less access, bigger penalties and more restrictions may just keep a few more handguns out of the hands of punks and thugs.

Great idea, but I'm still not voting Liberal anways.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Uhh ya.. and every conutry and state with handgun bans have the HIGHEST crime and murder rates.


So that blows your stupid fuckign theory out of the water doesnt it?

Did you bother to do an ounce of research before you made that dumb fucking post?

 

[bluepeter]

Uhh ya.. and every conutry and state with handgun bans have the HIGHEST crime and murder rates.


So that blows your stupid fuckign theory out of the water doesnt it?

Did you bother to do an ounce of research before you made that dumb fucking post?

Did you? Every country with handgun bans has the highest crime and murder rates? Didn't know the US had banned handguns.

In Canada since tighter restrictions were imposed upon obtaining handguns, murder rates using guns have declined significantly.

Not saying I oppose or endorse what Martin is suggesting, just pointing out your continuing pontification without thought. Why don't you try stop calling everyone names or belittling everyone that disagrees with you as well?

 

[manny78]

Did you? Every country with handgun bans has the highest crime and murder rates? Didn't know the US had banned handguns.

In Canada since tighter restrictions were imposed upon obtaining handguns, murder rates using guns have declined significantly.

Not saying I oppose or endorse what Martin is suggesting, just pointing out your continuing pontification without thought. Why don't you try stop calling everyone names or belittling everyone that disagrees with you as well?

Actually, US cities with handgun bans have higher crime rate (Chicago, LA, Washington....). Concerning Canada, well according to your friend, Paul Martin, crime rate has increased and not declined.... either you're right and he's making up a big BS to get sympathy or you're wrong and he holds the truth as usual.

Honestly, it will never pass. Even the NDP finds his idea useless, expensive and aiming the wrong people.

 

[manny78]

LOL are you cracked? Who they hell needs handguns anyways? They were designed for killing people, not hunting.

And yes, I'm a hunter, and I own guns. But handguns are pointless, unless they are in the hands of police.

Now, the licensing fiasco that has been going on.....that's a whole different thread.

What the Liberals are proposing is good in THEORY. It's mainly political grandstanding, but the intentions are good. I seriously don't think it would change a whole lot in Canada as it is, since most handguns are obtained illegally anways.

But less access, bigger penalties and more restrictions may just keep a few more handguns out of the hands of punks and thugs.

Great idea, but I'm still not voting Liberal anways.

Hunting rifles too are pointless. No need to hunt, we have grocery stores if you need meat.

 

[bluepeter]

Actually, US cities with handgun bans have higher crime rate (Chicago, LA, Washington....). Concerning Canada, well according to your friend, Paul Martin, crime rate has increased and not declined.... either you're right and he's making up a big BS to get sympathy or you're wrong and he holds the truth as usual.

Honestly, it will never pass. Even the NDP finds his idea useless, expensive and aiming the wrong people.

He ain't my friend, I'm not a fan

I was watching a piece on it the other day and they had some experts in that said since Canada invoked all the restrictions making it harder to get a handgun, gun murders had declined. Obviously lately, there has been an increase.

 

[MikeMartial]

Hunting rifles too are pointless. No need to hunt, we have grocery stores if you need meat.

Can't buy deer, moose, or elk, among other things.

 

[MikeMartial]

Even the NDP finds his idea useless, expensive and aiming the wrong people.

Of course the NDP do. They sling shit at every idea that isn't their's. That's a permanent part of their platform.

 

[manny78]

Can't buy deer, moose, or elk, among other things.

Of course you can. They have a special section at my grocery store. it tastes like shit btw...

 

[smoke67]

Don't know how it is in Canada so I am not getting into a pissing match with our friends to the north. With that said I am against any measure of gun control. We in the US have enough laws on this. What needs to be done is enforce the laws we have. I have all types of guns and enjoy all types of shooting sports including hunting. If you all in Canada need a wake up call just look what happened to Great Brit the last few years. Just My 2c

 

[Ozz2001]

I heard in Canada 90% of the ppl own hand guns and there isnt very many kills there like the usa...Maybe its because everyones got a gun and they know they could get shot...Makes anyone think twice in my eyes...
Its your right to bare arms dont give it up!

 

[MikeMartial]

I heard in Canada 90% of the ppl own hand guns and there isnt very many kills there like the usa...Maybe its because everyones got a gun and they know they could get shot...Makes anyone think twice in my eyes...
Its your right to bare arms dont give it up!

Um, that would be a rumor courtesty of the Vicious Rumor Mill.

I know 1 guy out of the 120 firefighters I work with who owns a handgun. Sure, lots own rifles, for hunting, of course, but not handguns. The only other person I knew who owned a handgun growing up was a friend's father.

The fact that we don't regularly blow each other head's off (or our own) with handguns is simple---there's not that many around. As a paramedic for the past 10 years working in cities ranging from 1.5 million to 75,000, the only GSWs I've been to have been from rifles. And why was that? Easy access, an action of opportunity. Now, imagine if you will: Take away that opportunity, the access, and the outcome of those calls may have been different. (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying take away rifles, I'm just asking you to think.)

This thread has many strong opinions, obviously. What the true answer is remains to be seen.

Will greater restriction and less access yield less handguns deaths? I think so, but that's my opinion.

Will less restriction yield less handgun deaths? Would this be a mentality of "he has one, I have one" type of cold-war stand off? Where would the public education come in, with easy access? Would homocides via handguns go down? Would accidental child deaths go up, or down? I can't see how less restrictions is a good thing.

It may be a "right" to bear arms, but why bother???

I'm not slamming our neighbors to the south, but I think if we look at the issues and problems they have on a national level with handgun deaths, we can prevent that here.

 

[manny78]

There're around 1 100 000 handguns registered in Canada (restricted and prohib 12.6). That's a lot. If you add full-autos, some other grandfathered prohib rifles and restricted rifles (AR-15) you come close to 2 500 000.

 

[MikeMartial]

There're around 1 100 000 handguns registered in Canada (restricted and prohib 12.6). That's a lot. If you add full-autos, some other grandfathered prohib rifles and restricted rifles (AR-15) you come close to 2 500 000.

Hmm. That is a lot. Everyone must have a secret stash

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Im tired of people talking about guns and hunting.....most gun owners have nothing to do with hunting. And a handgun is primarily used for self defense...the primary reason for gun ownership after before hunting/sporting.

Its much easier for me to maneuver in my home with a Gun than an m16 or shotgun. Although i prefer the power of a good mosberg590 persuader

I think we should ban liberals ...thats the anwser....as Michael Savage put it....Liberalism is a disease...that eventualy turns on itself.

Furthermore as written in the constituion in the US and our forefathers.....the most important reason for guns is to prevent tyrany by the Govt.!

Nothing to do with hunting. Personally i do not hunt.

 

[MikeMartial]

Thank you for pointing out the major difference of mentality between Americans and Canadians.


















(I hope everyone realizes I'm playing on a totally overblown stereotype)

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I like Canadians. They are good brothers who make good ParaOrdance's

 

[pendit]

I don't understand why pro-gunners tiptoe around the subject when it comes to gun use outside of hunting.

Handgun=Good for self defense and protection of others. Some calibers and configurations are made for hunting, but mainly they're designed for killing people. There's nothing wrong with killing someone that's willing to take your life, the life of others or is engaged in something like rape or other endangerment.

Shotgun=Sure you can bird hunt with it, but why bother. It's a close quarters weapon capable of great damage. A popular choice for home defense.

"Assault Rifle"=I like that name, I don't give a rat's ass what the media makes it out to be. High ammo capacity, rapid fire easy to use rifle. "What are you going to do, hunt deer with an AK-47?". No jackass, I'm going to use it to waste as many people as I can if a dangerous situation arises.

Hunting Rifle=Single shot, usually bolt action rifle. Comes in really small to really big calibers. Take down a rabbit, deer, elephant or a UN Peacekeeper from long distances. The Winchester Model 70 was a common sniper rifle in Vietnam because the snipers were allowed to take their hunting rifles with them.

To sum up my point, everyone knows, but no one wants to talk about responsible gun owners using deadly force. "You mean our kind hearted neighbor is capable of shooting an intruder/attacker in his home?" Yes he is, so is his wife and there's nothing wrong with that. This world is full of bad people. Bad people do not play by the rules or obey laws. Good people deserve to have an even playing field with the bad people. There's nothing wrong with a good person killing someone who is doing bad. Guns are made to kill living things, mostly people. States like California have a ton of laws restricting people from which guns they can own and carry. Those laws don't apply to the CA government officials who happen to have armed bodyguards. They vote in the restriction and talk about the evils of handguns and then walk off stage surrounded by guys carrying them. I carry "evil" handguns everywhere I go. (even to church!) Why? Because there's no such thing as a routine trip to the store, church, work, school, etc.... Your mind can't even begin to calculate all of the scenarios which might pan out between the time you wake up in the morning until you wake up the next morning. You're better off having it and not needing it.

If someone doesn't believe in guns or certain types of gu

 

[MikeMartial]

If someone doesn't believe in guns or certain types of gu

I think someone broke into his house and shot him in the back with an illegally obtained handgun as he was typing.

Poor guy never had time to load his AK-47.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Good words Pendit....i feel the same way and have posted this same argument before.

Liberalism needs to be eradicated....its a parasite and parasites must be removed like a surgeon removes a cancer!

 

[pendit]

Good words Pendit....i feel the same way and have posted this same argument before.

Liberalism needs to be eradicated....its a parasite and parasites must be removed like a surgeon removes a cancer!

I don't think liberalism is completely to blame. (not that I care for it at all) It's basically people that have a marxist utopia idea stuck in their head. "If only all of those evil guns were gone, we'd all get along and be happy." It's so far from reality it drives me nuts.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

You say Tomato i say Tomato.

 

[pendit]

I think someone broke into his house and shot him in the back with an illegally obtained handgun as he was typing.

Poor guy never had time to load his AK-47.

HAHAHA!!! Actually I heard a noise outside and fired off the 155mm Howitzer. It turned out to be just a cat, but now I have a few houses that I need to replace in the neighborhood.

 

[MikeMartial]

I don't think liberalism is completely to blame. (not that I care for it at all) It's basically people that have a marxist utopia idea stuck in their head. "If only all of those evil guns were gone, we'd all get along and be happy." It's so far from reality it drives me nuts.

Well said.