lets talk numbers.

[FrancoValdes]

ok..I just finished a cycle of Testoviron and Primo and I am VERY happy with the results. I have a few questions though...
How long should I wait to do another cycle?
AND....

Without gear, using regular supplements like creatine , glutamine, etc....how long would it normally take to get the results I got in 10 weeks ( about 20pounds or pure muscle )....???
I train really hard 5 days a week...
..and ill be posting my b4 and after pics later tonight!....
ciao!

 

[flex2000]

timeon=timeoff, also what where ur results of ur cycle?

 

[BiggerisBetter]

if you've been lifting seriously for a few years, the most weight your gonna gain per year without gear is like 6-8lb max.

 

[Andy13]

It's good to hear that your cycle went so well.

I too wondered the same question about how long it would have taken me to do it naturally.. Well, bro, take a look around.. Take a look in muscle media. Those are natural guys... Are you bigger than them? I hope so.

It's hard to measure "genetic limit" with pounds..

This is difficult to explain,, but It's really easy for me to pick someone out who is a newbie on juice, no matter what the age.. For the most part, their traps and shoulders grow HUGE proportionatly to their tiny arms.. True, some are different.. But many are like this.

Anyway, like I said, its difficult to explain but it seems as the person does more and more juice, they don't necessarily grow in pounds as much.. but it seems like they get more symmetrical and even.. They get a more "mature" look about them.

Anyway, just some of my non-scientific observations.


Andy

 

[FrancoValdes]

I have been only lifting seriuosly for three months!!!!!!!!!.......... 2 and a half of those on the juice!...thats why I was asking myslef..what if I hadn't taken the juice....
I have been out the cycle for 3 weeks now...how long should I wait to do another one?....I was thinking Deca and Test......

I got like 20 pounds off this first cycle...going 5 times a week to the gym.