lets talk about shrugs

[SoreArms]

Are we working our shoulders or traps here? I see so many people lifting high with their shoulders and then look at me like I'm doing them wrong because I lift with my traps and my shoulders hardly move. Are both ways acceptable? Am I the one that is doing them wrong? Is Killahbee really hetero?

 

[Scotsman]

Are we working our shoulders or traps here? I see so many people lifting high with their shoulders and then look at me like I'm doing them wrong because I lift with my traps and my shoulders hardly move. Are both ways acceptable? Am I the one that is doing them wrong? Is Killahbee really hetero?

You are doing them just fine. Some peoples shoulders may move a lot and others not much depending on how your shoulder is jointed. Not sure but probably not on the KB.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Seashell]

Let's talk about the sexy face we all make at the very top of the shrug...

Hot.

 

[Ish]

Wrong forum. People on C&C don't work out.

 

[jestros]

I dont see how you can move your traps with out moving your shoulders. The way I do them, arms move straight up, straight down.

 

[Lestat]

people move their shoulders differently... for my I have a moderate amount of shoulder movement, but the focus is on the traps.

Try touching your shoulders to your ear lobes.

 

[*MissFit*]

I know do ppl on elite work out.. now that is a thread topic

 

[needtogetaas]

Let's talk about the sexy face we all make at the very top of the shrug...

Hot.

bwaahahahaha

 

[WODIN]

Are we working our shoulders or traps here? I see so many people lifting high with their shoulders and then look at me like I'm doing them wrong because I lift with my traps and my shoulders hardly move. Are both ways acceptable? Am I the one that is doing them wrong? Is Killahbee really hetero?

Yes, no, no.

 

[hamstershaver]

Is Killahbee really hetero?

its an act

 

[Becoming]

Why not just do some cleans.... better results faster.

 

[OMEGA]

shrugs are to be super setted with bent over lateral on back day

after yiou have already done rows and pulldowns

that is all you have been schooled

 

[SoreArms]

My shoulders move too, but emphasis is on traps. I lift with my traps, not my shoudlers, shoulders just move as a consequence of the traps. Far too often I see people lifting with their shoulders, you see their shoudlers getting some high movement and their traps don't seem to have much to do with it. That's what I'm talking about.


vynil!

 

[MrMuscle]

its a trap exercise. and traps is the agonist on elevation of the shoulders. so yes. if you lift them high, you will train the traps.

 

[saint808]

i stopped doing them except when i am bored. I will about once a month use the standing calf raise machine to do them.

 

[Seashell]

vynil!

lol.. I'll cut you.

 

[OMEGA]

this is the perfect back workout:

Heavy to moderate pulldowns 5 sets
Heavy to moderate 1 arm rows 5 sets

Db stand up slightly bent over laterals
supersetted with DB shugs


then finisih with strict deadlifts of just hyper extentsions

( I also do biceps on this day but only do one isolation excersise since they have been toasted form back)

 

[Extra_Strong]

My shoulders move too, but emphasis is on traps. I lift with my traps, not my shoudlers, shoulders just move as a consequence of the traps. Far too often I see people lifting with their shoulders, you see their shoudlers getting some high movement and their traps don't seem to have much to do with it. That's what I'm talking about.


vynil!

oh you mean when they do them they dont keep there arms straight?
they kind of bend at the elbows. little like a high pull.
yea they are probably doing more work then they should be.
but really the only thing that matters is if the shoulders or ,clavical/ scapula,
are moving up . I am guessing when you say shoulder you are more talking about the deltoid muslce.
but ya your traps move your shoulders up and back.. trying to touch your ears is good . or bending over about 45 and pulling up and back or in a bent over possition tring to squeeze your shoulder blades together.. but keeping your elbows straight or locked..

 

[AEKDB]

One of my workouts that really kills the shoulders and traps:

Hang Cleans - 5x5 moderate weight to warm up
Power Cleans - 10sets 1 rep each rep should be progressively heavier.
Heavy Shrugs - 3x3 very heavy weight. This should test your grip as well.
Hang Cleans - to failure.

If somebody is able to move their elbows up the weight is not heavy enough. I rarely see people using enough weight on shrugs.

A very good book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...002-8979895-4557613?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

 

[Extra_Strong]

One of my workouts that really kills the shoulders and traps:

Hang Cleans - 5x5 moderate weight to warm up
Power Cleans - 10sets 1 rep each rep should be progressively heavier.
Heavy Shrugs - 3x3 very heavy weight. This should test your grip as well.
Hang Cleans - to failure.

If somebody is able to move their elbows up the weight is not heavy enough. I rarely see people using enough weight on shrugs.

A very good book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...002-8979895-4557613?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

what routine do you fallow?
for your whole body?

 

[AEKDB]

Tuesday - Bench or pushpress, power cleans or hang cleans
Thursday - Bench or pushpress, Deadlift or SL Deadlift
Saturday - Some variation of the clean or snatch
Sunday - Squat

After reading Kelso's book I try to work shrugs into every workout.

 

[tuc biscuit]

way I do it, is to try and force the tips of my delts into my ears whilst also squeezing the traps