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Let's hear it, deca vs tren ace
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jmat2407
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Apples to Oranges...
Two totally different compounds. And to make it worse your comparing the short ester version of Tren (acetate) to the long version of Nandrolone (decanoate)
You can gain more weight on a long cycle of deca. But its mostly water weight. Tren will provided excellent strength and much higher quality weight gain.
I have ran Deca in the past and did not care for it so much...the sides overpower the benefits.
I have only used Tren E, not Ace. Liked it and will be using it next year for contest prep.
I have only used Tren E, not Ace. Liked it and will be using it next year for contest prep.
blue_steel74
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Yea, i agree way too much difference in the compounds.
Deca is a nice bulking steroid that will pack on the weight, strength, and size quickly. The downside is it also brings alot of water retention, which if your a bb isnt good. Its also hard to recover from for most and can have nasty sides like nipple leakage. I personally like it in low to moderate doses as It has a great effect on the joints. With 500 mg or less a week my sides arent bad and the benefits are good for me. Tren is a fucking monster and the undisputed king of injectable steroids. It gives a tremendous strength boost, quality muscle gain, and increased aggression during training. It will lean you out better than anything I have ever used, it seems to literally melt the fat off your body like a thermogenic. Now for the bad. Your always fucking hot all day and night. Without caber, dont plan on sleeping more than 30 mins at a time. It will give you the worst insomnia you ever had. Along with that comes heartburn from hell. Your cardio vascular system takes a hit. Forget about running, I get out of breath on it from lifting. Some have libido issues, fortunately for me im like a pornstar on any aas. Some cant control the extra aggression. And the recovery can be tough for some. With all that said I love both drugs, but If I have to choose between the two or any for that matter, tren is always my number one choice period.
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psizzle_8
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Nice post. BUT tren is never recommended for beginners, let's put that out there..
jmat2407
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I've ran it. Its sides are HIGHLY overrated. Hell I've come to find out most people preaching to stay far away till 5th+ cycle have never even personally ran it themselves...
No the sides are not overrated, you can't say that unless you are one of the people that Tren has left fucked up. I am and can't run tren, period.
Deca, not as harsh on your body or you mind still fucks your body up and can leave w no hard-ons and leaking nipples. Still a freak.
We are all different and these compounds are not as harsh on some of us as they are on others. Why choose to run the worst when you can run the best.
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squatzilla
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I've ran both. The key w/ Tren is to really know you're body & use conservative dosages. I read posts where some guys on here a dosing GRAMS of injectibles & I cringe.
I dont believe there is a certain amount of cycles you have to run before tren. Its definitely not a beginner steroid. As far as when to take the plunge, it depends on your level of knowledge. Tren can have nasty sides for some and almost none for others. You dont want to be the jackass who cant get a hard on with his women, and not know how to fix it, or what caused it. I can tollerate tren really well with a low dose of caber, but without it I cant sleep for shit. That makes for a pretty miserable day at work with no sleep. Everyones not the same though. I have a buddy who ran tren from the beginning with no sides. Then I have a buddy who gets test flu everytime he injects test. It all depends on the person, but its wise to know what to do when shit hits the fan before you start.
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IronDorge
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This is sick, thanks for the replies Bros, tell you the truth, first cycle I ever ran was tren e/test e, had no problems other than sweating all day and night and some trouble sleeping, fucked more like porn star than ever, guess I was lucky, one bone head thing was I didn't run any Ai during either, didn't have problems at all but still should be more careful
Preferredautosonline
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Tried Tren e not ace an tried deca. Both are for bulk but tren you get more of a lean bulk and had more strength. Had like 4 night sweats and some cough but went away. Deca i felt alot of anger and strength wasnt all that great. Had alot of pimples from deca also for about 6months after i finished cycle. You bulk up but alot of it is also water. I would run both again not at the same time though. Winter deca since you get a bloated look and tren in summer. Over all tren was my favorite but every body is different.
spikester
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When you all say bad sides what do you all mean? (all the visible and noticeable side affects like not sleeping, head aches, back pain, acne, etc)? Have any of you (that have ran tren) ever gotten your blood or your blood pressure checked? I does horrible things to your insides, It effects your cholesterol good and bad, raises your blood pressure, and many don't know this but it effects you levels in your pancreas in turn helping you to get pancreatitis. Deca ran at the amount of tren you would usually run has no where near the same harsh sides. The similarity of Both are that they are killers to the natural testosteron in your body, and both attack your prolactin levels and You can get lean on both, deca-if you eat right but a lil water retention will be there. They are differ in that tren will strip fat and deca will not, tren is better for strength and deca is better for joints, deca still adds good strength. Deca takes a good 3-4 weeks to get warmed up before really giving out the results, tren ace is more like 48-72 hrs. Which also means if you are reacting or not reacting well to either of the two, deca will take a wile before you get back to (the norm before cycle) and tren ace it will take a lot less time to get back and this is if you didn't cause permanent damage. I also believe that you could run 20 miles on deca before you ever ran 1 mile on tren lol.
Preferredautosonline
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Lol thats for sure
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psizzle_8
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Thank you for your posts joeblow...
Jmat- Never said there was a certain number of cycles you should run before trying it (although many believe you should wait 3-5)...but as harsh as the sides can POSSIBLY be, a random newbie who has done no research and has never done a cycle before shouldn't do it. For instance- Could you imagine getting the dreaded cough and not knowing there's literally something called 'tren cough' ? That's all I'm saying. Good for you for being immune to it, that doesn't mean everyone is and will be.
Jmat- Never said there was a certain number of cycles you should run before trying it (although many believe you should wait 3-5)...but as harsh as the sides can POSSIBLY be, a random newbie who has done no research and has never done a cycle before shouldn't do it. For instance- Could you imagine getting the dreaded cough and not knowing there's literally something called 'tren cough' ? That's all I'm saying. Good for you for being immune to it, that doesn't mean everyone is and will be.
Tren sides overrated?? yeah if the shit is fucking bunk, then yeah, i could see that... its not for beginners period... noone said they had to wait 5 cycles deep but why would a person ever who is just starting something run something with the possibility of more sides than anything? that makes NO SENSE!
bigb797977
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Tren sides are different for everyone. I have done Deca and Tren and I usually do the classic dbol test e Deca mass cycle. Never disappointed. Tren sides were tough for me but Deca never gives me issues.
jmat2407
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Well considering I brew all my own gear I can assure you its not bunk. And if you want to call my powder bunk I have some bloodwork you may want to see.
I never said for someone to run out and pump themselves full of tren the first time out as a complete beginner. All I'm saying is if someone is already familiar with AAS and has a past history with them as long as they put in the time and research to really understand the compound and what its capable of and how to deal with those issues theres really no reason to fear or avoid it.
Like i said I see a lot of guys bashing running it who have never even ran it themselves.
I haven't used either one, but based off of everything I've heard and read from users, I will never touch Deca. Like others have said the sides seem to outweigh the positives on it. Tren E however I plan on trying out next spring/summer.
I agree...Tren, Deca, Anadrol, Sustanon, or whatever may not be the compounds for some people, so people will have to find what works best for them...although one would have to try Tren to know if it works or doesn't, so if someone was to run it yes do your homework on it, have all ancilaries ready, and get ready for the ride...with that said, I still agree this is not for beginners and that there are many other choices and combinations to give a test drive prior to anything that shouldn't be taken lightly...such as Tren.
my very first cycle included tren... for me personally. tren sides are over rated.... Like they all said about, everyone reacts differently to everything... I react HORRIBLY to Test Phenyl prop...sides are brutal,, mostly cosmetic sides, its the only aas to do a number on my skin...
Tren the only thing that bothers me really, is it makes me sweat all the time... Winter its not so bad, summer jesus christ im a sweaty mess.... My patience usually only runs low when im sweating, because its frustrating especially when you are out wearing nice clothes or out for dinner with company, haha its just an annoying feeling. But other than that... Ive ran tren E as high as 850mg per week (i find 700+ is when the fat just melts right off your friggin body, you can eat mcdonalds, KFC and 20 sticks of butter each day and still lose fat, well at least I can) A few freaks on another board swear by 1 gram of tren per week... Maybe one day ill give her a whirl... Mind you I have 6 tren cycles under my belt so far, so I know how my body reacts to tren and what doseages work best for me... What works for me, may kill some one else... You wont ever know how you will react until you try... Definatly try Tren ace first... if you cant stand it, much easier to quit. I personally only run long esters now adays, way to much scar tissue to be injecting every day these days...
Tren the only thing that bothers me really, is it makes me sweat all the time... Winter its not so bad, summer jesus christ im a sweaty mess.... My patience usually only runs low when im sweating, because its frustrating especially when you are out wearing nice clothes or out for dinner with company, haha its just an annoying feeling. But other than that... Ive ran tren E as high as 850mg per week (i find 700+ is when the fat just melts right off your friggin body, you can eat mcdonalds, KFC and 20 sticks of butter each day and still lose fat, well at least I can) A few freaks on another board swear by 1 gram of tren per week... Maybe one day ill give her a whirl... Mind you I have 6 tren cycles under my belt so far, so I know how my body reacts to tren and what doseages work best for me... What works for me, may kill some one else... You wont ever know how you will react until you try... Definatly try Tren ace first... if you cant stand it, much easier to quit. I personally only run long esters now adays, way to much scar tissue to be injecting every day these days...
IronDorge
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Ox-Sandra-Loan
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I much prefer deca...just shows that we all react differently to different things. Tren was the only thing that made me lose hair, gave me horrible cystic acne, insomnia, and shitty angry moods. The strength was good, but just not worth it for me. Currently I am on what would be considered a high dose of deca, and I am loving it! No sides, good strength, good size, good mood, good times. (I was also hoping for better feeling joints, but that didn't happen until I started the peptides).
One thing that might make a big difference in how I feel about the two is that when I ran tren (tren E), I used no prolactin control (stupid...I know), and currently I am using (and loving) prami with the deca.
I want to like tren, and be able to use it...I might have to give it another go one of these days, but for now, I know what I like and what works for me.
One thing that might make a big difference in how I feel about the two is that when I ran tren (tren E), I used no prolactin control (stupid...I know), and currently I am using (and loving) prami with the deca.
I want to like tren, and be able to use it...I might have to give it another go one of these days, but for now, I know what I like and what works for me.
Most people have a rough time on tren without using caber or prami. Id give tren ace a shot, and the good thing is if you dont respond well it only takes a couple days to run out. Unlike tren e you have to suffer a couple weeks. I love deca and tren, and have success with both, but nothing tops tren.
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spikester
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Go to the doc and get your blood checked wile on both and see which on messes you up more! Its easy just go to an immediate care and ask them to check liver, cholesterol, lipid profile, and get your bp checked. These are sides to guys just cause you cant see or feel them doesn't mean they are not there.
As someone above said we are all different and these compounds affect us all in diff ways. As for me I really like them both together. The Deca primarily for my beat up old joints and strength. The tren a or tren e for that great strength and leaning down.
Of course I run Dostinex with them either stand alone or together and am on TRT/HRT.
Running them together is not for the novice user in any way!
With either of these compound you must have and use Caber/Dostinex!
These compounds should be run with Test!
And lots of CLEAN FOOD!
Of course I run Dostinex with them either stand alone or together and am on TRT/HRT.
Running them together is not for the novice user in any way!
With either of these compound you must have and use Caber/Dostinex!
These compounds should be run with Test!
And lots of CLEAN FOOD!
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