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One other point to consider: There have been in all likelyhood 100's of studies on human beings and oxandrolone.
How many studies have there been on humans and trenbolone?
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One other point to consider: There have been in all likelyhood 100's of studies on human beings and oxandrolone.
How many studies have there been on humans and trenbolone?
geoboy
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TraxZBT said:
Goddamit. Stop pissing on my Tren fantasy.
I was about 15 minutes from starting a tren cycle.
1) are you predisposed to hairloss
2) anything else cause you to lose hair
3) now that I think about it, maybe you can fill out the TREN Survey in the sticky:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=245062
JP@Ironology
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Nice read RG, Karma to you.
geoboy
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geoboy said:
Goddamit. Stop pissing on my Tren fantasy.
I was about 15 minutes from starting a tren cycle.
1) are you predisposed to hairloss
2) anything else cause you to lose hair
3) now that I think about it, maybe you can fill out the TREN Survey in the sticky:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=245062
^^
First post and there are some great minds here IMO.
Just my experience with Tren.I am not very experienced with AAS but have been lifting for a while.
Diabetic lifter more into strength training than mass training as it's very difficult for me to add size.
40 yrs old. Have done 4 mini cycles of Tren only in past 6 months after curiosity got the best of me.
Two 2 weekers and Two 4 weekers.
Began the cycles at 164lbs. Ended at 178 even leaner than I was at 164 and have lost no weight yet but it's only been a couple weeks since I got off.
Every cycle gave me about 3-lbs.
Best bench naturally for me was 320 about 2 years ago and I was at a fat 185lbs, with 300 for 3reps. But had been stuck at 315 for a while.
At end of last cycle, 300 5 full reps and 340 max. Strength gains were fantastic when you consider I had been maxed out naturally for several years.
Gains were very lean and with very little to no water gain.
BP changed from my normal 130/90 to 140+/mid 80's.
Sort of an odd change.
The muscles got very hard and no doubt about it,I lost a lot of fat even on a pretty high fat diet.
Normally I would get pretty sore after a heavy workout. On the tren I had no soreness and felt like I could lift everyday.
I found it worked incredibly fast. In one week I could feel it.
By the 2nd week it really kicked in.
But by week 4 end, it seemed like it was actually having less effect. Night sweats completely stopped, mood swings were less pronounced and even BP dropped back to normal.
Worst side for me was a defenite change in moods.
I have used clomid for post cycle. I noticed no bad sides from it.
It seems like it takes me 10 days before I feel back to normal and my usual strong sex drive kicks in.
Tren did drop my sex drive no doubt about it but that did not stop me
.
Not a trace of any gyno.
I did get a bad wrist joint problem which I am not sure if it is tren related or not but I think it was. Possibly from reduced cortisol?
I did only bi and tri injections at 60mg ED. Never had so much as a bruise and used my slin pins.
My arms gained about 3/4 inch from that with a great bi peak.
All in all these mini tren only cycles seem well worth it.
Not a big mass adder, but very good lean gains with quite a boost in strength.
I am going in for blood work soon and will see how much I screwed myself up or not.
My cholesterol was sort of high to begin with.
Am adding in some Lescol now as a precaution.
Just my experience with Tren.I am not very experienced with AAS but have been lifting for a while.
Diabetic lifter more into strength training than mass training as it's very difficult for me to add size.
40 yrs old. Have done 4 mini cycles of Tren only in past 6 months after curiosity got the best of me.
Two 2 weekers and Two 4 weekers.
Began the cycles at 164lbs. Ended at 178 even leaner than I was at 164 and have lost no weight yet but it's only been a couple weeks since I got off.
Every cycle gave me about 3-lbs.
Best bench naturally for me was 320 about 2 years ago and I was at a fat 185lbs, with 300 for 3reps. But had been stuck at 315 for a while.
At end of last cycle, 300 5 full reps and 340 max. Strength gains were fantastic when you consider I had been maxed out naturally for several years.
Gains were very lean and with very little to no water gain.
BP changed from my normal 130/90 to 140+/mid 80's.
Sort of an odd change.
The muscles got very hard and no doubt about it,I lost a lot of fat even on a pretty high fat diet.
Normally I would get pretty sore after a heavy workout. On the tren I had no soreness and felt like I could lift everyday.
I found it worked incredibly fast. In one week I could feel it.
By the 2nd week it really kicked in.
But by week 4 end, it seemed like it was actually having less effect. Night sweats completely stopped, mood swings were less pronounced and even BP dropped back to normal.
Worst side for me was a defenite change in moods.
I have used clomid for post cycle. I noticed no bad sides from it.
It seems like it takes me 10 days before I feel back to normal and my usual strong sex drive kicks in.
Tren did drop my sex drive no doubt about it but that did not stop me
.Not a trace of any gyno.
I did get a bad wrist joint problem which I am not sure if it is tren related or not but I think it was. Possibly from reduced cortisol?
I did only bi and tri injections at 60mg ED. Never had so much as a bruise and used my slin pins.
My arms gained about 3/4 inch from that with a great bi peak.
All in all these mini tren only cycles seem well worth it.
Not a big mass adder, but very good lean gains with quite a boost in strength.
I am going in for blood work soon and will see how much I screwed myself up or not.
My cholesterol was sort of high to begin with.
Am adding in some Lescol now as a precaution.
TraxZBT
New member
geoboy said:
Goddamit. Stop pissing on my Tren fantasy.
I was about 15 minutes from starting a tren cycle.
1) are you predisposed to hairloss
2) anything else cause you to lose hair
3) now that I think about it, maybe you can fill out the TREN Survey in the sticky:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=245062
1) I'm don't think i'm very prone to hairloss. (my dad has a full head of hair at 58, but my uncles on mother side are balding a bit)
2) I don't lose hair on cycle... I lose hair post cycle only. I have very thick hair and don't shed at all normally. Was also running EQ, low dose test and var in past cycles.
3) will do..
Themachine01
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The tren and fina are both good, but I feel too strong for long term use....... To build muscle I feel the hormone levels should remain elevated for at least 16 weeks if not more..... I would never use Fina for even half that much time.......
JP@Ironology
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Great post RG. Very informative.
