Letrozole results

[njmuscleguy]

If you want the lump to go away you do, otherwise you will just keep it from getting bigger. At 2.5mg ED you should notice the lump begin to dissipate in as little as 7 days.

but if the lump isn't being caused by estrogen, then how would le-tro help?

if his lump were to go down with the let-ro, then likely it's not being caused by the tre-n

 

[perryscoon]

but if the lump isn't being caused by estrogen, then how would le-tro help?

if his lump were to go down with the let-ro, then likely it's not being caused by the tre-n

Because letro helps with both types of gyno. So either way, letro is good.



"
I am posting this thread to help answer all of the questions regarding gyno prevention and reversal, the use of letrozole and other anti-e’s. I will go over everything in very simple easy to understand language. Also we are talking about estrogen gyno here, not progesterone (but using letro will stop progesterone related problems as well since it inhibits all estrogen anyways). Progesterone gyno will be enlargement of your nipple area, the actual aereola, not a lump under it.

Let me make this first point very clear, as I state in my signature this is from my personal experience, so whether you agree with it or not is your own issue. I have helped many people with gyno and it has worked just fine for them as well.

To first understand why you are doing what you are doing I am going to go over a few things and a few definitions:

SERM – Selective estrogen receptor modulator. These drugs work by binding to the estrogen receptors and flooding them in a sense, making it difficult (but not impossible by any means) for estrogen to bind to the receptors and thus prevent the onset of estrogen related side effects.
Most common forms: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex), Clomiphene (Clomid)
AI – Aromatise Inhibitor. These drugs work by inhibiting the aromatization of estrogen. This means that in effect AI’s prevent androgens from converting to estrogen, again, making it difficult (but not impossible) for estrogen to reach receptor sites.
Most common forms: Anastrozole (l-dex, a-dex), Exemestane (aromasin), Femera (letrozole). For our purpose of reversing gyno we are interested in Letro.

Letro and your sex drive:
Letrozole will suppress your sex drive. This is another reason why it is so important to act on preventing gyno as soon as possible. Since we all know that Test should be run in every cycle this will cancel out the effect of sex drive suppression.

Running letro to prevent gyno:
If you decide to run estrogen protection while on cycle (and I suggest you do unless you are aware that you do not require it), you can run either a SERM or an AI. Letro will be the most powerful AI you can use, it will inhibit 98+% of estrogen using a dose as low as .25mg and even lower. This is why I suggest you do not use a dose higher than .50mg while on cycle just trying to prevent estrogen related side effects.

You will want to start running the letro approximately 2 weeks before you begin your cycle to allow it to fully stabilize in your blood. I have often heard the argument that letro takes up to 60 days to stabilize, I don’t know if I buy into this for the reason that I have reversed gyno after using letro for only 1 week. Still to be safe I recommend starting it before your cycle as stated above.

If you do decide to run letro there is absolutely no need to run another AI or SERM. Do not make the mistake of thinking more is better. Think of it this way; if letro is preventing the conversion of androgens to estrogen than there is no estrogen, what would the purpose of a SERM be when there is no estrogen to bind to the receptors? Nolva will only take away from the effectiveness of letro.

This brings me to my next point. Do not listen to anyone who tells you to bump up your nolvadex to 60+mg ED if you get gyno. I have no idea where this idea started but I have seen it suggest far too many times recently. Nolvadex will do nothing to reverse your gyno…let me make that clear IT WILL DO NOTHING FOR GYNO. If you are running nolva as your anti-e and start to develop gyno than sure you can bump the dosage a small amount to try to prevent it from progressing further, but letrozole must begin ASAP.

It is very important that you begin taking letrozole immediately, the longer your wait the more risk you take in not being able to reverse it.

How do I know if I have gyno?
If you have developed gyno you will have a lump behind your nipple. It will be fairly hard, and it will be tender to touch.

Running letro to reverse gyno:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the letro ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro.
2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.

Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another AI or SERM. So, I suggest that when you are coming to the end of your cycle you will more than likely be using Nolva in your PCT so just make sure that you begin taking nolva the last day you are going to take your letro and then continue on as you would with regular PCT.

This now leads us into the question of reversing gyno while not on cycle. There are a few things to remember here. You have already waited longer than you should have, and your sex drive will be shot. You can use tribulus or another natural test booster to help you in this scenario but I can’t guarantee the effectiveness. Just follow gyno reversal protocols 2 or 3. When coming off again you must taper and begin using nolvadex to prevent any rebound effect that may occur.

How much nolvadex should you use if you are not going into PCT and running this off cycle? I suggest starting at 20mg ED for a week and then lowering it to 10mg for another week and then coming off completely."

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/14260-letrozole-3.html

 

[theperfectdrug187]

Alright, I'm going to up the dose on the letro to 2.5 mg per day until it subsides. Then taper the doses so I don't suffer too much in the gain department. I'll up the caber to .5 e3d. Thanks for your help guys, I'll let you know how it goes.

Along the same lines, I'd like to research the gyno surgery. Any of you bros know of a good doc around the Seattle area?

 

[GUARDIAN]

http://www.expertpcsupport.com/foru...-top-gynecomastia-surgeon-country-576472.html

He might know of one. Drop him a PM.

Alright, I'm going to up the dose on the letro to 2.5 mg per day until it subsides. Then taper the doses so I don't suffer too much in the gain department. I'll up the caber to .5 e3d. Thanks for your help guys, I'll let you know how it goes.

Along the same lines, I'd like to research the gyno surgery. Any of you bros know of a good doc around the Seattle area?

 

[theperfectdrug187]

Because Femera - letrozole - helps with both types of gynecomastia. So either way, Femera - letrozole - is good.



"
I am posting this thread to help answer all of the questions regarding gynecomastia prevention and reversal, the use of letrozole and other anti-e’s. I will go over everything in very simple easy to understand language. Also we are talking about estrogen gynecomastia here, not progesterone (but using Femera - letrozole - will stop progesterone related problems as well since it inhibits all estrogen anyways). Progesterone gynecomastia will be enlargement of your nipple area, the actual aereola, not a lump under it.

Let me make this first point very clear, as I state in my signature this is from my personal experience, so whether you agree with it or not is your own issue. I have helped many people with gynecomastia and it has worked just fine for them as well.

To first understand why you are doing what you are doing I am going to go over a few things and a few definitions:

selective estrogen receptor modulator – Selective estrogen receptor modulator. These drugs work by binding to the estrogen receptors and flooding them in a sense, making it difficult (but not impossible by any means) for estrogen to bind to the receptors and thus prevent the onset of estrogen related side effects.
Most common forms: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex), Clomiphene (Clomid)
aromatase inhibitor – Aromatise Inhibitor. These drugs work by inhibiting the aromatization of estrogen. This means that in effect aromatase inhibitor’s prevent androgens from converting to estrogen, again, making it difficult (but not impossible) for estrogen to reach receptor sites.
Most common forms: Anastrozole (l-dex, a-dex), Exemestane (aromasin), Femera (letrozole). For our purpose of reversing gynecomastia we are interested in Femera - letrozole - .

Femera - letrozole - and your sex drive:
Letrozole will suppress your sex drive. This is another reason why it is so important to act on preventing gynecomastia as soon as possible. Since we all know that Test should be run in every cycle this will cancel out the effect of sex drive suppression.

Running Femera - letrozole - to prevent gynecomastia:
If you decide to run estrogen protection while on cycle (and I suggest you do unless you are aware that you do not require it), you can run either a selective estrogen receptor modulator or an aromatase inhibitor. Femera - letrozole - will be the most powerful aromatase inhibitor you can use, it will inhibit 98+% of estrogen using a dose as low as .25mg and even lower. This is why I suggest you do not use a dose higher than .50mg while on cycle just trying to prevent estrogen related side effects.

You will want to start running the Femera - letrozole - approximately 2 weeks before you begin your cycle to allow it to fully stabilize in your blood. I have often heard the argument that Femera - letrozole - takes up to 60 days to stabilize, I don’t know if I buy into this for the reason that I have reversed gynecomastia after using Femera - letrozole - for only 1 week. Still to be safe I recommend starting it before your cycle as stated above.

If you do decide to run Femera - letrozole - there is absolutely no need to run another aromatase inhibitor or selective estrogen receptor modulator. Do not make the mistake of thinking more is better. Think of it this way; if Femera - letrozole - is preventing the conversion of androgens to estrogen than there is no estrogen, what would the purpose of a selective estrogen receptor modulator be when there is no estrogen to bind to the receptors? Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - will only take away from the effectiveness of Femera - letrozole - .

This brings me to my next point. Do not listen to anyone who tells you to bump up your nolvadex to 60+mg ED if you get gynecomastia. I have no idea where this idea started but I have seen it suggest far too many times recently. Nolvadex will do nothing to reverse your gynecomastia…let me make that clear IT WILL DO NOTHING FOR gynecomastia. If you are running Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - as your anti-e and start to develop gynecomastia than sure you can bump the dosage a small amount to try to prevent it from progressing further, but letrozole must begin ASAP.

It is very important that you begin taking letrozole immediately, the longer your wait the more risk you take in not being able to reverse it.

How do I know if I have gynecomastia?
If you have developed gynecomastia you will have a lump behind your nipple. It will be fairly hard, and it will be tender to touch.

Running Femera - letrozole - to reverse gynecomastia:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the Femera - letrozole - ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from Femera - letrozole - .
2. Already using Femera - letrozole - @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin Femera - letrozole - as the Femera - letrozole - will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gynecomastia is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gynecomastia symptoms subside. Once you believe your gynecomastia is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper Femera - letrozole - down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.

Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another aromatase inhibitor or SERM. So, I suggest that when you are coming to the end of your cycle you will more than likely be using Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - in your PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - so just make sure that you begin taking Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - the last day you are going to take your Femera - letrozole - and then continue on as you would with regular PCT.

This now leads us into the question of reversing gynecomastia while not on cycle. There are a few things to remember here. You have already waited longer than you should have, and your sex drive will be shot. You can use tribulus or another natural test booster to help you in this scenario but I can’t guarantee the effectiveness. Just follow gynecomastia reversal protocols 2 or 3. When coming off again you must taper and begin using nolvadex to prevent any rebound effect that may occur.

How much nolvadex should you use if you are not going into PCT and running this off cycle? I suggest starting at 20mg ED for a week and then lowering it to 10mg for another week and then coming off completely."

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/14260-letrozole-3.html

That's discouraging, but thanks for that info perry and 8and20. I'll copy and paste into my personal handbook.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I've seen that article before... problem is, he suggests nol-va for estrogen rebound after coming off of the let-ro....but if you're taking a progestin (either tre-en or de-ca), it's been suggested that nol-lva could further aggrevate gyno. So then what? I guess just go back to a lower dosage of your normal A I?

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Because Femera - letrozole - helps with both types of gynecomastia. So either way, Femera - letrozole - is good.



"
I am posting this thread to help answer all of the questions regarding gynecomastia prevention and reversal, the use of letrozole and other anti-e’s. I will go over everything in very simple easy to understand language. Also we are talking about estrogen gynecomastia here, not progesterone (but using Femera - letrozole - will stop progesterone related problems as well since it inhibits all estrogen anyways). Progesterone gynecomastia will be enlargement of your nipple area, the actual aereola, not a lump under it.

Let me make this first point very clear, as I state in my signature this is from my personal experience, so whether you agree with it or not is your own issue. I have helped many people with gynecomastia and it has worked just fine for them as well.

To first understand why you are doing what you are doing I am going to go over a few things and a few definitions:

selective estrogen receptor modulator – Selective estrogen receptor modulator. These drugs work by binding to the estrogen receptors and flooding them in a sense, making it difficult (but not impossible by any means) for estrogen to bind to the receptors and thus prevent the onset of estrogen related side effects.
Most common forms: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex), Clomiphene (Clomid)
aromatase inhibitor – Aromatise Inhibitor. These drugs work by inhibiting the aromatization of estrogen. This means that in effect aromatase inhibitor’s prevent androgens from converting to estrogen, again, making it difficult (but not impossible) for estrogen to reach receptor sites.
Most common forms: Anastrozole (l-dex, a-dex), Exemestane (aromasin), Femera (letrozole). For our purpose of reversing gynecomastia we are interested in Letro.

Letro and your sex drive:
Letrozole will suppress your sex drive. This is another reason why it is so important to act on preventing gynecomastia as soon as possible. Since we all know that Test should be run in every cycle this will cancel out the effect of sex drive suppression.

Running Femera - letrozole - to prevent gynecomastia:
If you decide to run estrogen protection while on cycle (and I suggest you do unless you are aware that you do not require it), you can run either a SERM or an aromatase inhibitor. Letro will be the most powerful aromatase inhibitor you can use, it will inhibit 98+% of estrogen using a dose as low as .25mg and even lower. This is why I suggest you do not use a dose higher than .50mg while on cycle just trying to prevent estrogen related side effects.

You will want to start running the Femera - letrozole - approximately 2 weeks before you begin your cycle to allow it to fully stabilize in your blood. I have often heard the argument that Femera - letrozole - takes up to 60 days to stabilize, I don’t know if I buy into this for the reason that I have reversed gynecomastia after using Femera - letrozole - for only 1 week. Still to be safe I recommend starting it before your cycle as stated above.

If you do decide to run Femera - letrozole - there is absolutely no need to run another aromatase inhibitor or SERM. Do not make the mistake of thinking more is better. Think of it this way; if Femera - letrozole - is preventing the conversion of androgens to estrogen than there is no estrogen, what would the purpose of a SERM be when there is no estrogen to bind to the receptors? Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - will only take away from the effectiveness of Femera - letrozole - .

This brings me to my next point. Do not listen to anyone who tells you to bump up your nolvadex to 60+mg ED if you get gynecomastia. I have no idea where this idea started but I have seen it suggest far too many times recently. Nolvadex will do nothing to reverse your gynecomastia…let me make that clear IT WILL DO NOTHING FOR GYNO. If you are running Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - as your anti-e and start to develop gynecomastia than sure you can bump the dosage a small amount to try to prevent it from progressing further, but letrozole must begin ASAP.

It is very important that you begin taking letrozole immediately, the longer your wait the more risk you take in not being able to reverse it.

How do I know if I have gynecomastia?
If you have developed gynecomastia you will have a lump behind your nipple. It will be fairly hard, and it will be tender to touch.

Running Femera - letrozole - to reverse gynecomastia:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the Femera - letrozole - ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from Femera - letrozole - .
2. Already using Femera - letrozole - @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin Femera - letrozole - as the Femera - letrozole - will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gynecomastia is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gynecomastia symptoms subside. Once you believe your gynecomastia is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper Femera - letrozole - down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.

Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another aromatase inhibitor or SERM. So, I suggest that when you are coming to the end of your cycle you will more than likely be using Nolva in your PCT - post cycle therapy - so just make sure that you begin taking Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - the last day you are going to take your Femera - letrozole - and then continue on as you would with regular PCT.

This now leads us into the question of reversing gynecomastia while not on cycle. There are a few things to remember here. You have already waited longer than you should have, and your sex drive will be shot. You can use tribulus or another natural test booster to help you in this scenario but I can’t guarantee the effectiveness. Just follow gynecomastia reversal protocols 2 or 3. When coming off again you must taper and begin using nolvadex to prevent any rebound effect that may occur.

How much nolvadex should you use if you are not going into PCT and running this off cycle? I suggest starting at 20mg ED for a week and then lowering it to 10mg for another week and then coming off completely."

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/14260-letrozole-3.html

GREAT POST! Anyone who uses Tren should have this.

 

[Mavafanculo]

but if the lump isn't being caused by estrogen, then how would le-tro help?

if his lump were to go down with the let-ro, then likely it's not being caused by the tre-n

1) some of what bro's call progesterone gynecomastia when on nandrolones is actually prolactemia or colloquially "prolactin gynecomastia", and is distinguished from actual gynecomastia by the absence of a lump accompanied by enlarged and/or darkened sensitive nipples with or without lactation. usually accompanyed by an inability to acheive orgasm or delayed orgasm. (prolactin is what cuses the refractory period) dostinex/cabergoline @ .5 2x a week is usually effective.

2) divided opinion among "gurus" as to whether there is such an animal as progesterone gynecomastia. most logical explanation if there is such a thing is that it requires a small amount of estrogen to manifest. since Femera - letrozole - can virtually wipe out all the E in ur system, that may be why it has widespread buzz as being effective against P-gynecomastia. no e, no p-gynecomastia. no studies to support this yet, but the bro-ology is consistent enough to warrant attention.

3) if ur not on nandrolones, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - /raloxifene are the most studied/proven compounds to reduce EXISTING gynecomastia lumps.

arimidex was studied alongside these serms, and was not effective at reducing existing lumps. Femera - letrozole - was not studied. Femera - letrozole - is much more effective at wiping out E, so if and when it is studied for this application, it may turn out to be as effective or more effective then the studied serms at reducing existing gynecomastia.

4) if you're on nandrolones, stay away from Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , as there are initial indications in a few off-point studies that point to an up-regulation of progesterone receptors. no on point studies, but again widespread consistent bro-ology suffient to warrant caution.

 

[GUARDIAN]

every site that I found that claimed letrozole reduced prolactin or progesterone, if they listed a source could not be found. i would like to see these sources that show this.

todoveritas where are u?

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

1) some of what bro's call progesterone gynecomastia when on nandrolones is actually prolactemia or colloquially "prolactin gynecomastia", and is distinguished from actual gynecomastia by the absence of a lump accompanied by enlarged and/or darkened sensitive nipples with or without lactation. usually accompanyed by an inability to acheive orgasm or delayed orgasm. (prolactin is what cuses the refractory period) dostinex/cabergoline @ .5 2x a week is usually effective.

2) divided opinion among "gurus" as to whether there is such an animal as progesterone gynecomastia. most logical explanation if there is such a thing is that it requires a small amount of estrogen to manifest. since Femera - letrozole - can virtually wipe out all the E in ur system, that may be why it has widespread buzz as being effective against P-gynecomastia. no e, no p-gynecomastia. no studies to support this yet, but the bro-ology is consistent enough to warrant attention.

3) if ur not on nandrolones, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - /raloxifene are the most studied/proven compounds to reduce EXISTING gynecomastia lumps.

arimidex was studied alongside these serms, and was not effective at reducing existing lumps. Femera - letrozole - was not studied. Femera - letrozole - is much more effective at wiping out E, so if and when it is studied for this application, it may turn out to be as effective or more effective then the studied serms at reducing existing gynecomastia.

4) if you're on nandrolones, stay away from Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , as there are initial indications in a few off-point studies that point to an up-regulation of progesterone receptors. no on point studies, but again widespread consistent bro-ology suffient to warrant caution.

Now this is funny...yet very true. Bro-ology.