Letro / Nolva vs. Gyno progress report thread

[75th]

Dont post on the anabolic forum too often (aka ever), but a good buddy of mine just started a Letro / Nolva program for some gyno he was lucky enough to be blessed with about 4 years ago which he assumes was estrogen related (he was on testosterone at the time).

Although I havent gone out of my way to feel his nipples, this is relatively visible depending on what type of shirt he is wearing. He tells me that a lump a little smaller than a marble sits behind his left nipple, and a lump about the size of a pea sits behind his right. His body fat is about 12-13%. He is not on any steroids right now, and hasnt been for the past few years.

His dosing schedule looks like this:

Days 1-3: .25mg Letro / .25mg Nolva

Days 4-7: .50mg Letro / .50mg Nolva

Days 7-gyno is gone: 1.5mg Letro / .50mg Nolva

He may up the Letro if during his 2nd week has hasnt noticed a difference.

Anyway, I will pop back in here every few days with an update on his progress. Unfortunately I work out with him 5 days a week so I'll have to hear him go on about this.

Through our research we see that this has been a hot topic on here lately, so we figured another person's experience would be helpful.

Any other questions for me or him feel free to post them up.

 

[access]

That's a really low dose of Nolva..

 

[Donnie Darko]

I would think that it should be more like 25 mg and 50 mg rather than 0.25 and 0.50 mg of Nolva.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Are you sure those dosages are correct?

I agree with Donnie....they're def. more like 25-50mgs

Dont post on the anabolic forum too often (aka ever), but a good buddy of mine just started a Letro / Nolva program for some gyno he was lucky enough to be blessed with about 4 years ago which he assumes was estrogen related (he was on testosterone at the time).

Although I havent gone out of my way to feel his nipples, this is relatively visible depending on what type of shirt he is wearing. He tells me that a lump a little smaller than a marble sits behind his left nipple, and a lump about the size of a pea sits behind his right. His body fat is about 12-13%. He is not on any steroids right now, and hasnt been for the past few years.

His dosing schedule looks like this:

Days 1-3: .25mg Letro / .25mg Nolva

Days 4-7: .50mg Letro / .50mg Nolva

Days 7-gyno is gone: 1.5mg Letro / .50mg Nolva

He may up the Letro if during his 2nd week has hasnt noticed a difference.

Anyway, I will pop back in here every few days with an update on his progress. Unfortunately I work out with him 5 days a week so I'll have to hear him go on about this.

Through our research we see that this has been a hot topic on here lately, so we figured another person's experience would be helpful.

Any other questions for me or him feel free to post them up.

 

[lartinos]

Alot of guys use this combo even though has been shown in a study it showed they don't work all that well together. Believe it or not you'd be better off dropping the letro for aromasin and throwing in some masteron.

 

[timtim]

i ramped up the letro up to 2.5mg a day. it took 4 or 5 days to get there and i stayed at that 2.5 for about a week. nolva has been 12.5mg a day for the first 10 days. now its 6.25. i have ramped the letro down to .75 a day over the last 5 days and will begin to take that dose eod for a week and then e3d for 2 weeks.

my gyno was extremely painful and growing even with adex/nolva combo. letro literally stopped the pain and spread in 3 days. by the 7th day on the lump was shrinking.

 

[75th]

My bad guys.

Yeah, move the decimal points around a bit then its right.

Obviously I dont do this shit a lot.

Foockers.

 

[75th]

Alot of guys use this combo even though has been shown in a study it showed they don't work all that well together. Believe it or not you'd be better off dropping the letro for aromasin and throwing in some masteron.

Ya weve read arguments for and against nolva.

Hes going to try it for 2-3 weeks, and if there is no change maybe he will alter his shit up.

 

[lartinos]

Ya weve read arguments for and against nolva.

Hes going to try it for 2-3 weeks, and if there is no change maybe he will alter his shit up.

not nolva, but nolva with letro specifically. That is why nolva,masteron, and aromasin is a better idea.

 

[75th]

not nolva, but nolva with letro specifically. That is why nolva,masteron, and aromasin is a better idea.

Indeed, that's what I meant. However, there are folks who swear by the letro / nolva combo.

 

[ALIN]

That's a really low dose of Nolva..

Every medical piece I have read says NOT to use Nolva and Letro at the same time.

 

[75th]

Every medical piece I have read says NOT to use Nolva and Letro at the same time.

Yet the folks that actually have used it have nothing but good things to say about it.

 

[lartinos]

Yet the folks that actually have used it have nothing but good things to say about it.

I tried them together and found they don't work well for me personally.
The stack I outlayed would work way way better for atleast me.

 

[lartinos]

and if you can't get masteron, HGH or ghrp may be able to do the trick.

 

[75th]

Sup bors.

Day 4 on this for my buddy. Ill cut and paste an email he sent to me:

Maybe it's just psychological but I notice a small difference already. The lump under my left nipple that was larger than the lump under my right does feel like it has reduced in size to a certain degree. No sides to complain of so far such as acne, mood swings, decreased sex drive, etc. But it's only the fourth day so maybe that is still to come. Have not really noticed any change in water retention but I wasn't that bloated to begin with.

Just FYI in case anybody cares.

 

[maxspeed96ct]

Bump to this thread, keep us posted.

I'm waiting on a apointment I have in sept to see a speacialist.
(ive had small amount of gyno since puberty.....

If oxford insurance doesnt cover my surgery ill also be trying a similar route

I remeber reading just nolva works to for some.

 

[Captain FT]

Bump to this thread, keep us posted.

I'm waiting on a apointment I have in sept to see a speacialist.
(ive had small amount of gyno since puberty.....

If oxford insurance doesnt cover my surgery ill also be trying a similar route

I remeber reading just nolva works to for some.

i'm about to start 50mg Nolva and 2.5mg Letro e.d. until its gone.

Have had gyno since I was an adolescent, went away some by 18 and then at 20 came back with my first cycle. Now 31 I still have it. this is my last resort before I do surgury, i'll post some results also

 

[ANHFY]

Keep us posted. I'll get on if it works out...

 

[75th]

I decided not to up the dosage as much as scheduled. As it stands right now I'm talking 35mg of Nolva and 1.25mg of Letro per day. I do still notice that the lumps are dissolving. There is no question about that. Only sides to speak of is, well I'm not sure how to put it, but less "endurance" while working out. I don't get winded or tired. I just have the urge to give up after less time than normal. Maybe it's just coincidence.

Let them know I'll have more information soon.

 

[Bridger]

Bump for update

 

[75th]

Bump for update

Forgot to mention...

He stopped yesterday after 16 days. Lump under the right nipple is completely gone. Lump under the left has reduced in size by 75-80%, he says. He never increased his dosage past 1mg Letro and 50mg Nolva.

The reason why he stopped short is (this may or may not be related) was a sudden onset of....wait for it...some type of gum disease. Doing some research online, we found that this could be caused by a sudden change in hormones. As he started tapering off the dose the symptoms started to subside.

In any case, he's very happy with the results.

 

[Loths]

Bro, Check my post on "GYNO and LETRO"

Do a search with that heading. I di the hole letro routine. Posted Regula updates... the whole shaban... Letro works... i did not use novaldex right in conjuction with letro... I used it afterwards... Check my post.. i should help a little!!!