letro and dbol

[rambleon]

well if you had signs of gynecomastia i would of ran Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - unless i had a lump or my nips were noticeably changing.

other than that Femera - letrozole - is the way to go to get rid of the nips problem.

If you have gynecomastia problems i'd drop the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for sure...

Agreed. Fem does kill gains if overused. I usually only use it while on tren. It is a matter of striking a balance tho. If ur sensitive to gyno u can feel when its not enough pretty fast and so adjust ur dose. Needless to say the dose should be as small as possible while still killing the gyno. The excess of hormones in ur body will insure that u still get gains only not as impressive as without the letro. Who wants impressive gains if half of them are in the shape of bitch tits? With a cycle like urs i'd use the letro to kill the gyno then go with nolva from then on. If bloat becomes a problem use adex instead of the letro.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Agreed. Fem does kill gains if overused. I usually only use it while on trenbolone. It is a matter of striking a balance tho. If ur sensitive to gynecomastia u can feel when its not enough pretty fast and so adjust ur dose. Needless to say the dose should be as small as possible while still killing the gynecomastia. The excess of hormones in ur body will insure that u still get gains only not as impressive as without the Femera - letrozole - . Who wants impressive gains if half of them are in the shape of bitch tits? With a cycle like urs i'd use the Femera - letrozole - to kill the gynecomastia then go with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - from then on. If bloat becomes a problem use Arimidex - anastrozole - instead of the Femera - letrozole - .

At what dose do you guys recomend of the Nolvaldex???

THanks

BigPHX

 

[Acela]

aight ill wait till im totally of the shit so that would be during the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - taper down, i know alot of guys run Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on cycle with no probs. Gonna start with low dose Dianabol - methandrostenolone - then 300mg/Sustanon a week and 200mg/Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - a week and there either 20 or 25mg proviron a day. Dunno how long i will run the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - on its own but im gonna try lower end dosages and see where it takes me.

IMO you should drop the d/bol entirely, i was just reading your post about that lump "under your tit". this is a recipe for a reoccurence.

wait a bit, then when you do hit your cycle bump your E/Q to at least 400 mgs EW. i honestly think that you will be very disappointed @ 200 (and i am a proponent of low/moderate dosed cycles)

 

[b_light]

well the orig. plan was 400mg a week e/q and 500 a week s.ust but i decided to drop it down. I was really more interested in seeing how the ferma worked at removal. Once the tits get bad if they do i'll simply have them removed.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Quote:
Originally Posted by rambleon
Agreed. Fem does kill gains if overused. I usually only use it while on trenbolone. It is a matter of striking a balance tho. If ur sensitive to gynecomastia u can feel when its not enough pretty fast and so adjust ur dose. Needless to say the dose should be as small as possible while still killing the gynecomastia. The excess of hormones in ur body will insure that u still get gains only not as impressive as without the Femera - letrozole - . Who wants impressive gains if half of them are in the shape of bitch tits? With a cycle like urs i'd use the Femera - letrozole - to kill the gynecomastia then go with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - from then on. If bloat becomes a problem use Arimidex - anastrozole - instead of the Femera - letrozole - .



At what dose do you guys recomend of the Nolvaldex???

THanks

BigPHX


Wow BigPHX that is a great question!!!

 

[b_light]

10-20mg a day when on cycle is what i've seen.

 

[rambleon]

Quote:
Originally Posted by rambleon
Agreed. Fem does kill gains if overused. I usually only use it while on trenbolone. It is a matter of striking a balance tho. If ur sensitive to gynecomastia u can feel when its not enough pretty fast and so adjust ur dose. Needless to say the dose should be as small as possible while still killing the gynecomastia. The excess of hormones in ur body will insure that u still get gains only not as impressive as without the Femera - letrozole - . Who wants impressive gains if half of them are in the shape of bitch tits? With a cycle like urs i'd use the Femera - letrozole - to kill the gynecomastia then go with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - from then on. If bloat becomes a problem use Arimidex - anastrozole - instead of the Femera - letrozole - .



At what dose do you guys recomend of the Nolvaldex???

THanks

BigPHX


Wow BigPHX that is a great question!!!

try 20 mg ed and adjust as needed

good luck

 

[GAUDY]

try 20 mg ed and adjust as needed

good luck

agreed, if you wake up one day and your nips are lookin bad its not uncommon to take 60mg for a day, then 40 until sympthoms start to go away, and then 20 EOD.

 

[holy ghost]

you only got Nolva PHX? i like DEX better......

nolva is a pain.

Letro sucks and if you use too much you leave yourself susceptible to breaks tears strains etc.... your body needs SOME estrogen or else you will be walkin like the fuckin tin man

Half Pint - very true bro....why did you change you rname when u came over here lol

 

[BigGuyPHX]

THanks bros...
This was my first "real" run in with sides, so I was not schooled 100% on what to do.
I'm not clear on this... If my Gyno is fully cleared up for over 2 weeks should I try to run without the Nolvaldex or should I run it just in case???

I was running a higher dose of dboll when the sides kicked in and I was not running anavar. Now I'm running both at 20mg ED plus test e 250mg pw. I feel great, strong, mind clear, horny, and spot on with every thing. (best I felt in years!)

So again Nolvaldex should I run it or not??? Also 2 weeks left on this cycle.

Thanks bros
BigGuyPHX