Lebanon!!!

[jerseyart]

JA, a person like you being a conservative is fascinating!

First I dont know what a person like me is

Conservatism = personal liberty and freedom. If it were a viable party, I'd be a libertarian.

The modern day democratic party offers nothing more than class/race envy, empty promises of some utopian dream that the next guy will allegedly foot the bill for (and hes evil anyway, so its ok to hate him) and capitulation of national security and foreign policy.

I live in a representative government which my liberal American brethren wish to give away in some inane policy of internationalism, whcih essentially promotes the premise that Americans are too powerful and too stupid to be trusted with their own affairs

 

[spongebob]

i hope everything works out for ya!

 

[Allon]

Interesting JA, I get your point but still find it hard to see how you chose bible fanatics like bush over any dumbassed liberal.

whats the reason?

 

[Allon]

Oh and a person like you is someone with a fucking twisted sense of humour (in the BEST of ways) jokes about his gender, sex, etc... obiously a very open minded, modern, "LIBERAL", doesn't give a fuck whazt anyone thinks, kinda person. I might be wrong, but that is the impression I get.

 

[jerseyart]

Interesting JA, I get your point but still find it hard to see how you chose bible fanatics like bush over any dumbassed liberal.

whats the reason?

Oh please bible fanataics. everyone who believes in God is a fanatic according to the left. The only correct acceptable answers to the left are agnotsic,atheists, but spiritual yet in some vague unafffiliated way. Everyone elee is a bible thumper.

About par for the intolerant tolerance weve come to expect from the left

They all of a sudden do love muslims, but thats primarily because they hate America. Otherwise theyd have no use for them either.


Bush is a rational and shrewd leader. He tackled a tough problem which most anyone else would have allowed to continue to fester until it reached epic proportions. He lanced the boil, and offered at least a solution. None was proferred by the left except more neglect. I have yet to read a credible alternative from anyone in the democratic party.

I recall Reagan was also labeled an idiot and a fanatic, but he was also proven correct by history. The only ones who fail to acknowledge it to this day are liberals, who were on the wrong side then as they are now.

 

[Allon]

Amazing theory JA, but I think I can safely say that someone who promotes:

No sex until marriage
Death penalty
Abolish abortions
No gay marriages
etc etc

To not be someone who knows anything about freedom and also calling them a bible fanatic kinda is not so silly of me.

 

[jerseyart]

Amazing theory JA, but I think I can safely say that someone who promotes:

No sex until marriage
Death penalty
Abolish abortions
No gay marriages
etc etc

To not be someone who knows anything about freedom and also calling them a bible fanatic kinda is not so silly of me.

You havent given it much thought. The largest Chrich in the world oposes the death penalty for example. His opponent also supported the death penalty. It isnt a religious conviction, but something cultural and strongly rooted. Personally I oppose the death penalty on aoral grounds and dont think the state should be in the business of executing anyone who is no longer a threat.

Abortion is a moral issue which is opposed my many atheists. Again it is a conservative principle in as much as the state has determined thta they are now qualified to redefine human beings. A "fetus" can be aborted solely because the courts have decided its not human, and therefore not entitled to Constitutional protection.

And while his religious convcitions may cause him to promote abstinence, there are no public policies punishing people who decide to have sex. I fail to see the conflcit.

Finally the issue of gay marriage can be debated ad nauseum. Your assumption is incorrect, prmilarily that this is a religious issue solely. I suggest it is fundamental to society, and can be argued with merit in a secualr way. Marriage is a human institution, and established in society for the proper raising and rearing of children. It is not a right, it is a socila construct, with clear goals, none of which are furthered by gay marriage

 

[Allon]

I do not say it is solely a religous point of view, I am saying that it is backward.

Ok, forget the abortion issue.

How can you support a government that obviously does not see modern way of life and modern way of seeing life a reality and constantly try to take peoples thoughts and morals backwards?

Liberation of the soul, body and mind is a way of life the BUSH seems to want to crush.

 

[H_T_]

when the hell did they let you back?

 

[Allon]

Of all the people that have been banned, did I deserve it least or most human?

3-5 days ago, I was nowhere near a computer so dunno exactly when.

All my karma was zapped.