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[mlior]

Hi,
I'm planning my 3rd cycle which its goal is to get quality muscle, hardness the muscle mass acquired till yet and to look more ripped.

My stats: 5'8" 191 lbs and 14% bf

I was thinking of:

week 1: 2ml EQ + 1ml Cyp + 15mg winny tabs
week 2: 2ml EQ + 2ml Cyp + 15mg winny tabs
week 3: 2ml EQ + 2ml Cyp + 20mg winny tabs
week 4: 2ml EQ + 1ml Cyp + 20mg winny tabs
week 5: 1ml Tren EOD + 20mg Anavar + 20mg winny tabs
week 6: 1ml Tren EOD + 25mg Anavar + 20mg winny tabs
week 7: 1ml Tren EOD + 30mg Anavar + 20mg winny tabs
week 8: 1ml Tren EOD + 35mg Anavar + 15mg winny tabs
week 9: 5000IU HCG x 2
week 10: 5000IU HCG

What do u think?

 

[sweed]

Oh gosh... where do i begin..
why only run test/ eq for only 4 weeks?
wheres the rest of your pct?
what is the dosage of mgs / ml in the test and eq?
no need to pyramid.
tren to be shot everyday

anything else? any i thought I didnt knwo anything

 

[mlior]

yo sweed,
can u pls suggest me how to go for a better cycle?

btw, i thought about 400mg/week eq and 400mg/week test cyp

 

[mlior]

anyone???
any suggestions?

 

[turbogreek]

Hi,
week 1: 2ml EQ + 1ml Cyp + 15mg winny tabs
week 2: 2ml EQ + 2ml Cyp + 15mg winny tabs
week 3: 2ml EQ + 2ml Cyp + 20mg winny tabs
week 4: 2ml EQ + 1ml Cyp + 20mg winny tabs
week 5: 1ml Tren EOD + 20mg Anavar + 20mg winny tabs
week 6: 1ml Tren EOD + 25mg Anavar + 20mg winny tabs
week 7: 1ml Tren EOD + 30mg Anavar + 20mg winny tabs
week 8: 1ml Tren EOD + 35mg Anavar + 15mg winny tabs
week 9: 5000IU HCG x 2
week 10: 5000IU HCG

hey bro...sweed is right...you should really do more research before ytou do your next cycle.

ok here it goes:
1) you say 2cc's EQ? whats the mg dosage of each ml?
2) EQ has to be run at least 10 weeks...it doesn't really kick in until like week 7 or 8...with EQ (bot not all other AAS) the longer the better
3) i'm guessing the cyp is 200mg? gotta run that for 10 weeks
4) var and winny together? no reason.
5) winny...you wont feel shit at those doses, honestly...thats a waist. and do not ramp winny...50mg ED minimum
6) your PCT is totally wrong
7) what kind of tren? enanthane? ace? hex? it totally makes a big difference

*thants a very advanced cycle stacking all that shit. what's your experience with AAS? what did your other cycles look like? what substances have you used?

SUGGESTIONS:
week 1 to 10: test cyp @400mg/week
week 1 to 10: EQ @400mg/week
week 1 to 5 or 6: var @40mg ED (to kickstart cycle)
week 7 to 12: winny @50mg/day (to harden up your gains until PCT)
week 13 start PCT: do more research on a good PCT

i left the tren out because i have no idea what kind it is.
hope this helps. and PLEASE research more before you hurt yourself bro.

 

[Makavelli]

You need to run cyp at least 6 weeks.

 

[mlior]

thx guys!
regarding the tren - i was talking about the acetate.
tell u to truth i'm kinda worry about the water retention of the cyp - maybe i should switch to tren instead of the cyp?

regarding the pct:
does clomid 100mg for the first week and then 2 weeks of 50mg with 3000IU hcg twice a week will be good enough?

should i take nolv\prov through all the cycle?

need your advice!
10x in advance,

 

[mlior]

btw, the only substances i've used till now it's deca and dbol

 

[CENTURION44]

eq run at least 12 weeks @ at least 400mg ew......same with the test...run at least 12 weeks...hold the winny for the last 4-6 weeks....do 50mg ED....

 

[turbogreek]

bro...tren is not for beginners...there are a lot of sides that come with tren. try arimidex for the water retention of the cyp. also...check out the PCT forum for a the right pct for your cycle...read and ask questions.

 

[silverbackn]

btw, the only substances i've used till now it's deca and dbol

So you're very inexperienced, and you want to run 5 compounds you have NO EXPERIENCE with. That's a real bad idea. Stay basic. You have never even used test before? You need to scratch that whole cycle and run 500mg's of test a week. Good luck with whatever you decide!

 

[AAP]

Just run 600mg EQ and 600mg test cyp weekly for 12 weeks and you will be very happy. If you want to add anavar in the beginning go ahead.

Otherwise, for the tren, forget the winstrol (20mg ain't shit) and just keep it simple.

 

[mlior]

thx again guys for helping me a lot.

i think i'll go for:

week 1-10: test cyp @ 400mg/week (2 shots)
week 1-10: EQ @ 400mg/week (2 shots)
week 1-3: var @ 20mg/ED
week 3-6: var @ 30mg/ED
week 11: PCT

what do u say - is it good enough?

btw, what about the water retention - how can i eliminate it?

 

[RADAR]

btw, the only substances i've used till now it's deca and dbol

And this is your 3rd cycle????? I'm don't mean to knock you so hard but you should learn everything ,and i mean EVERYTHING! about AAS before waiting to run any compound,then you will know what it does ,the sides you might incur and the resuts each one produces,that way you can make a more intelligent decision in developing a cycle.


Like AAP said:
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AAP--- Just run 600mg EQ and 600mg test cyp weekly for 12 weeks and you will be very happy. If you want to add anavar in the beginning go ahead.
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As simple as this is,these will add the results you are looking for!

RADAR

 

[mlior]

yo RADAR man,

i listened to AAP and decided to go for (as i wrote before):

week 1-10: test cyp @ 400mg/week
week 1-10: EQ @ 400mg/week
week 1-3: var @ 20mg/ED
week 3-6: var @ 30mg/ED
week 11-13: 10mg nolvadex & 25mg proviron
week 11-12: 5000IU HCG 1amp/week
week 11: 100mg clomid
week 12-13: 50mg clomid

i think u were all right and from the above cycle i'll get a great results.

need your approvement!

 

[silverbackn]

yo RADAR man,

i listened to AAP and decided to go for (as i wrote before):

week 1-10: test cyp @ 400mg/week
week 1-10: EQ @ 400mg/week
week 1-3: var @ 20mg/ED
week 3-6: var @ 30mg/ED
week 11-13: 10mg nolvadex & 25mg proviron
week 11-12: 5000IU HCG 1amp/week
week 11: 100mg clomid
week 12-13: 50mg clomid

i think u were all right and from the above cycle i'll get a great results.

need your approvement!

That looks much better bro! Basic is always better until you are well versed and experienced with anabolics. Let us know how it goes!

 

[mlior]

i just wanted to thank u all guys for all your help ))

 

[soflaguy]

thx again guys for helping me a lot.
btw, what about the water retention - how can i eliminate it?

Proviron is real good at getting that "hard" look and an anti-estrogen. If it can be hard on the hair, but if you can afford it then why not use it throughout the cycle.
At those doses you mentioned, you probably wouldn't need anymore than that. I would also suggest a shot of HCG mid-cycle since it is 10-weeker.

400mg EQ/400mg Test/25mg Proviron ED is real nice for your stats.

Good luck.

 

[mlior]

thx soflaguy, but i think 25mg proviron ED will cost me to much, so i think i'll start at the last 4 weeks and then 2 weeks more as pct with clomid & nolva.

btw, regarding the mid-cycle hcg shot - what should be the dosage?

 

[Slyder190]

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