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Laying off after 3 years on.

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TimeHasCome

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Hi there EliteFitness.
Let me start of by introducing myself, I am a hobby bodybuilder from northern Europe. 29 years old.
I have been cycling since I was 17. But now the time has come for me to quit for good.
My thoughts on starting this journal is to share my experience of how it is to go off after three years
let's all agree to that everyone respond differently regardless of how long you've been on.
I have done PCTs previously after 20weeks cycles without shutdown,
but now the time has come to go off after three years I expect a harsh shutdown,
and I would love support through it since it is not an easy match.

The first of july all my esters will be out of the body (I have only been cycling Testo E 250mg E10D for 2months)

I have used possible almost every steroid in the book during my lifetime.
While on those three years I have had Testo E/C as cruise/bas throughout the whole time.
Blasts has included Deca,Dbol,Win or Tren A. I have had 5blast through these three years.

Bloodwork has been done three times during these years, with very good results.
Cholesterol,HB,bloodpressure,heart,liver,kidneys all has been in very good condition.
I have however never checked my sperm, and I hope that I one day can have a child
(that's the main reason I quit, ofcourse id regret all if the case is I am sterile but I'll take the consequenses of my own actions)

Where I live PCT and PEPTIDES are not as easy to come by as to where you guys live.
I would love to combine GHRP6 + grf mod 1-23 but fact is I could only get hold of GHRP6,2, Tripotelin, nolva and MT2.
I do skip HCg due to Tripotelin, might be a bad choice, might now. We'll see!.

My PCT will consist of Nolva the first 30 days,
Tripotelin 100mcg 1st of July
followed by GHRP6 + 2 100mcg three times a day(5day on 2day off)
with MT2 taken 1-3times/week - might not count this as PCT but it do elevate my mood and sexualdrive.

I expect to lose mass, I expect to have zero sexdrive, I expect to be depressed.
I want to go back to live a normal life, not having to depend on jabbing myself with testosteron weekly
(might be the case if I dont get my natty up but I believe deep down in my heart that I will get it back)
I have grown bored of thinking of working out and diet everyday to keep my shape up.
I want to relax, I just wanna be a regular dude with my girlfriend and develop my life further(speaking of childrens)

Workout Schedule I will go by as of PCT
Monday: Breast,Triceps,Abs
Tuesday: Back,Biceps,forearms
Thursday: Shoulders,trapz,abs
Friday: LEGDAY, forearms


Thank you for letting me share, I hope that unlike my countries steroid boards we can keep the bad stuffs of the grid, I believe in you guys on EliteFitness, USA has proven to be best at steroids for me.
My country wont even treat a man if he is 20 and has testolevels as a 85year old guy,they hand him anti depressions.
The people that hang on our steroidboards are mainly kids 15-18 that flame everyone and start cycling year around at the age of 16 ....
I choose elitefitness for support, and to share my journey. I am sure you've all read about some guy going off after 2,3,4,5years already...
but another one wont hurt I assume..

criticize me if you like. But note that I can not change my PCT as of now. -everything else is to be criticized

Daily updates will continue as of 1st july... anything goes in my thread if that's allowed.
ill share a bunch of shit when depression strikes me. goodluck out there cycling/pcting my fellow steroid users.

Edit: Made it more read friendly..
 
Day 4. Its all good. I wake up with morning wood so far guess thats temporary lol I suspect in a week or two the full shutdown will have blown over me. Balls seem to have swollen up a bit(the balls not the sack) its a bit more filled. My load seem to have increased to when I gave it to my girlfriends back in doggy, that was a good view to be honest seems like i havnt had this much sperm in 3 years lol. Strength, endurance, energy, pump, motivation its all still there. Nothing big to report of as of yet. I'll tune in for more updates while time passes. started nolvadex on PCT day 2.
 
RickRock13 said:
I'm very interested in how this goes for you. I am surprised that you aren't using HCG to kickstart your PCT, especially considering how long you were on. I would think that would start things off much better.
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Yes I am surprised too believe me but its my punch to face I guess :-) if this does not work out ill do a power pct (but thats speaking as of like ...4months ahead). guess u cant really complain, me acting a dummy all on myself. yeah i know triptorelin has had some people reports saying its bunk but they might of gotten bunk triptorelin, anyway i wanted to document its effects "on its own" so hcg pre would be more wise yes but my interest in how this substance might be able to kickstart the whole system by it self after 3 years shutdown was to great to negotiate with. I might be stupid but shit, life cant get worse for me im a strong dude i can last thru bleeding hell so this could be of use to u ill be 100% honest on whats goin on in my system with only this.

when i injected my trip subQ i 30seconds after felt a strong rush in my body,shit it wasnt pretty either felt like a dirty rush. definetly felt something, wonder what.hmmm
 
still feeling good at day 5 PCT. i guess i have around 60mg testo left in my system now? i dont know. When should I expect the crash really? around day 10? 15? 20?
 
Are you using anything for boosting test or just peptides? That doesn't look like a pct to me. At least throw in some DAA maybe?
 
Jack steel said:
Are you using anything for boosting test or just peptides? That doesn't look like a pct to me. At least throw in some DAA maybe?
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uhh dont even know if DAA is legal in my country i know u in USA have tons of prohormones, we dont even have creatine almost lol :p

theres nolvadex which has worked previously for me. theres triptorelin for the start to signal to FSH and LH. Dont know if triptorelin is really effective I wanted to see if it was.

Can you comment on when I should be feeling shutdown? I dont really know when to expect it (done multiply pcts in the past never felt shutdown) but i mean for christ sake this is three years i ought to feel something right....

DAA = D asparic acid??? if so yes i can get my hands on it hehe:d
 
Day 6
Woke up by my women jerking me off. Solid steel that so i gave her some. Feeling amazing today. Not much to say ive ordered some DAA :-) have a nice saturday out there im heading out in the sun gettin tanned
 
TimeHasCome said:
Day 6
Woke up by my women jerking me off. Solid steel that so i gave her some. Feeling amazing today. Not much to say ive ordered some DAA :-) have a nice saturday out there im heading out in the sun gettin tanned
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Don't run the daa right now. Save it. See how you do without it first bro. Besides read the sides on DAA. It also increases estrogen and progesterone alot, and gives you the shits. If you do crash, I'd expect it to start happening soon, may not even be a crash, just feelings of lethargy,
I don't really crash either in pct just find I have to push myself mentally a but harder than normal. I've never done 3 year cruise but I've done a 1 year. If you can get peptides, use igf 1, helps with gains tremendously and makes nuts plump:)
 
rustilldown said:
Don't run the daa right now. Save it. See how you do without it first bro. Besides read the sides on DAA. It also increases estrogen and progesterone alot, and gives you the shits. If you do crash, I'd expect it to start happening soon, may not even be a crash, just feelings of lethargy,
I don't really crash either in pct just find I have to push myself mentally a but harder than normal. I've never done 3 year cruise but I've done a 1 year. If you can get peptides, use igf 1, helps with gains tremendously and makes nuts plump:)
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Thank you for your answer much appreciated. Yeah I did order it though but as you said I might save it and see how I do without it. Nice to get some insight from a guy whos been on a long cruise aswell saying how it was, I was expecting to crash by this time but to be honest I feel better than when im on.

Will look into igf1 but afaik from my connections is that alot of it here is faked, peptides isnt so well known yet here.

Ive read upon the sides of DAA, im not really sensitive to estrogen neither progesteron but estrogen isnt the best to get up right now but it does help LH produce which could help my balls spinn off faster. But ill hang in there and see whats up.

Cheer m8
 
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I Wish you luck, Bro! Hopefully everything turns out well in the end.
 
According to PCT calc i got around 71.6mg today so yeah it plays a big role, 71mg is normal range ofcourse i have not yet crash i will most likely do in 1-2week however we will see what nolva and triptorelin has done until then. my last pin was 17th june but also note that the last 3months i only did pin each 10 day at roughly 250-300mg
 
TimeHasCome said:
According to PCT calc i got around 71.6mg today so yeah it plays a big role, 71mg is normal range ofcourse i have not yet crash i will most likely do in 1-2week however we will see what nolva and triptorelin has done until then. my last pin was 17th june but also note that the last 3months i only did pin each 10 day at roughly 250-300mg
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For me the last 2 months before coming off I was only pinning 100 Mgs test a week so I think a taper off does help, it felt like my nuts were plumping up even when I had come off a blast down to just 100 Mgs of test a week. I have a sneaking suspicion you are going to be ok. The human body is resilient. Keep us posted buddy.
 
rustilldown said:
For me the last 2 months before coming off I was only pinning 100 Mgs test a week so I think a taper off does help, it felt like my nuts were plumping up even when I had come off a blast down to just 100 Mgs of test a week. I have a sneaking suspicion you are going to be ok. The human body is resilient. Keep us posted buddy.
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Sure hope your suspicions are correct bro, it would be very nice to not have to go through hell just to rise back up on earth, atleast not if its not neccessary. Thats my idea on tapering off dosage too, was to prepare my body to not have excess testosteron as its used to, hope it would make a difference. I believe so to about our body, for most part. I'll keep you posted np
 
Yoyo i'm reporting in on the seventh day of PCT i'm great. a bit moody from time to time, bit more sensitive, a bit more lazy but all in all I feel great and libido is working as it should natty. so far im surprised. my balls get a bit more full,well the ball it self hasnt grown that much its a bit more filled but the ballsack has loosen up its not stuck hidden up there no more, its hanging omfg its sweet to see this after three years.

Ill keep you posted :-) cheers
 
TimeHasCome said:
Yoyo i'm reporting in on the seventh day of PCT i'm great. a bit moody from time to time, bit more sensitive, a bit more lazy but all in all I feel great and libido is working as it should natty. so far im surprised. my balls get a bit more full,well the ball it self hasnt grown that much its a bit more filled but the ballsack has loosen up its not stuck hidden up there no more, its hanging omfg its sweet to see this after three years.

Ill keep you posted :-) cheers
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Yeah this happened to me too bro. I had 2 weeks of feeling ups and downs after the 3 week of no pinnig happened , then I stabilized, something I used also was rapidcuts fat burner( not to burn fat but it helped lower cortisol , also too 5g vitamin c am and pm for 10 g a day to blunt cortisol . Keep it up :) the swinging ballsac is a warm welcome lol
 
TimeHasCome said:
Yoyo i'm reporting in on the seventh day of PCT i'm great. a bit moody from time to time, bit more sensitive, a bit more lazy but all in all I feel great and libido is working as it should natty. so far im surprised. my balls get a bit more full,well the ball it self hasnt grown that much its a bit more filled but the ballsack has loosen up its not stuck hidden up there no more, its hanging omfg its sweet to see this after three years.

Ill keep you posted :-) cheers
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Those are all great signs bro. Keep us updated on how everything continues to go.
 
@Rustilldown yeah hormone imbalance causes a bit mood swings as if when i did inject each 10 day I felt more moody than usual the three days before inject so i hope it stables up, been a bit like a greedy bitch today hehe. My monday 5x5 session went great though. Yeah indeed a warm welcome, feels great!! Isnt GHRP6 or 2 (dno which one) anti cortisal?... i feel as if they do alot to me. a bit prolactin issue from 2, nothing big though.

@RickRock yeah I will keep you posted til the end. Glad to hear its great signs, it really sooths my heart!


I wonder, if any of you know why wednesday in bills 5x5 is 4x5 deadlift & incline? i get it on squat but why 4x5 deadlift if i only deadlift once a week? same goes for incline, i usual feel that it wouldnt be an endurance or CNS problem with 5x5 on incline and deadlift?
Well aight, deadlift is one deadly motherfucker. is it ok if I raise incline bench to 5x5 instead of 4x5? That would smooth my mental part of this..
 
Day 1022: 59.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T (DAY 8 PCT TODAY)
Day 1024: 48.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1025: 44.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1026: 40.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1027: 36.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1028: 33mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1029: 29.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1030: 26.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1031: 24.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1032: 22.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1033: 19.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1034: 18.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1035: 16.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 1036: 15mg T, 0mg E/D/T

So within two weeks I should know if this is going to be a living hell or not. Fuck yes. I'm ready, come at me low testosteron lolll.

Cheers, all good today. my balls are acking alot, this day omg they been going back forth all day consistent pain, nothing gruesome but theres noticeable pain.
 
Day 1024: 48.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T PCT DAY 9

Woke up 10minutes ago, morning wood hard as rock. slipped in my bathroom took a leak went downstairs got my peptides injected them now im shaking of hunger. Time to get some oatmeal in my stomach before the days adventures begin. taking my wife on a strool through the beautiful forest we have around here, all the way to a very mystical tree called "the troll tree" or whatnot, cant really translate it to english. Have a nice day out there guys
 
Got my DAA today, star nutrition DAA. Got some chocolate proteinbars for free to they were tasty. the daa itself tasted like shit. yeah might not need it but i thought why the hell not just try to maximize my recovery. Looking around my sources to find Clomid aswell, not an easy task in my country.
 
I've been told that just because your ballsack starts to loosen up, or nuts getting more filled or if they have noticeble pain in them(as if growing pain, same pain you had when atrophy happen) is NO indication that its a recovery process. is this true? my balls have had noticeble pain for two days straight.
 
TimeHasCome said:
I've been told that just because your ballsack starts to loosen up, or nuts getting more filled or if they have noticeble pain in them(as if growing pain, same pain you had when atrophy happen) is NO indication that its a recovery process. is this true? my balls have had noticeble pain for two days straight.
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In my experience when the aching begins is when the recovery begins :)
 
Roger that bro, ill take your experience on that makes sense because when they shutoff its the same aching as the "wake up" part which should indicate that they are trying to get back on duty. Feels great after your statement cheers
 
Due to my time being on (3yrs) its safe to say nolva for 7wks is ok to do? I have 49x 20mg tabs and consider using them all. Seen some long serm usage studies proven good. Opinions??

Also. mixed peptides, how long will they last in room temperature?
 
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*PCT DAY 11*

I am a bit more tired on the days but nothing much, it does not bother me or interfere with anything.
I've lost some interest in sex, not that I can't have sex I just don't feel like "oh yeah let's fuck again...n again...n again''.

Muscle,weight,mirror - they all seem to appear the same as before going off. I think GHRP6 and 2 are doing a little on my body though,
and the extra apetite is very helpfull. All in all I feel great.
'blueballs' has lessend, three days in a row I had pain in them now they are more filled, hanging more and sometimes they hurt, mostly not.
D-Aspartic Acid third day, I feel as if it pulls my mood up a bit actully. I am going to get some Clomid from a friend very cheap his own brand aswell so it's legit so I'll add it in the equation.

Signing out - TimeHasCome(THC) Hehehe...
 
TimeHasCome said:
Will do sir.
Yes so am I, a bit nervous to I might add.
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You will do well bro keep up the high spirits and hit the iron hard. You will recover the body will find homostasus. I think most cases of "low T" are mis diagnosed or the docs are quick to prescribe rather than pursuing this natural route. Most cases not all .
 
rustilldown said:
You will do well bro keep up the high spirits and hit the iron hard. You will recover the body will find homostasus. I think most cases of "low T" are mis diagnosed or the docs are quick to prescribe rather than pursuing this natural route. Most cases not all .
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I believe in the same thing you say, in most cases body will bounce back because we are brilliant creatures with right genetics at hand, and i've thought about doctors(mainly in US and where you from) prescribe TRT rather easy than trying different PCT wakeup protocols

Where I am from...you must have extremely low testosteron I mean extremely for they to even prescribe TestoGel or Testo D (You may never inject yourself), in most cases if you feeling depressed with low sex drive etc they will still say hm yes 5.2ng its normal :)))) and if you complain they offer you anti depressants. In my country steroids are the worst drugs there is, they spend more time chasing steroidusers and dealers than anything else, police do regular raids at different gyms just to bust people, they can take you to the station if you look big while just walking outside in the sun, or if they see anyone big drivinig a car they can take him too and urine test them.

if you get caught for steroid use here you can also lose your drivers license they say "steroid users are aggressive vehicle drivers and pose harm to others". You also get longer prison penatly for selling steroids than etc. rape and murder, for rape they usualy get 1-2years, and murder 3-4years, while selling steroids is 8-10years, we are also on top 10 list rate of reported rapes (alot, i mean ALOT of rapes happens here) and the suicide rate is way up, aswell as the drug abuse rate.. Not to mention our prisons are hotel, they have xbox, playstation, very neat gyms, very i mean very great diet and food, you have a radio in your cell and most cells have TVs to and you have a cell all by yourself, if you cant sleep they will give you benzos.

I'll spoil now; Im from Sweden, the worst fucking country in the west-world, cheersss

Sorry for writing all this bshit, just wanted to share what a SHIT HOLE I COME FROM. I was reminded of that when you said doctors and prescribe hehe

Have a nice nght, im going to bed. I
 
Day 13 n my sexdrive has gone up, I get spontanious erections some times, atleast twice already today. thats a good sign i suppose lol also had a sexdream tonight
 
Day 15
Yep I notice I am alot less sexual active infact my girl has been on her period and I havnt felt once for having sex but he works if I need him to. Day13&14 included wetdreams. Still waking up with morningwood. Feeling a bit more tired than usual but all in all its still going good.
 
day 19.

ive added clomid in now 50/25/25/25 is what i am going to do. havnt had any interest in sex for a while. high prolactin probably , cant get my hand om caber atm anyway so ill ride it out. ghrp2 prolactin is probably the biggest bitch here.
 
TimeHasCome said:
day 19.

ive added clomid in now 50/25/25/25 is what i am going to do. havnt had any interest in sex for a while. high prolactin probably , cant get my hand om caber atm anyway so ill ride it out. ghrp2 prolactin is probably the biggest bitch here.
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Pick up some vitamin b6 for a temporary fix
 
overall I must say im surprised still feeling great, if I work with him down there for 15-20seconds he go hard and he does not go limb on me tried some pornographic first time even sexual in 10days and I blew in less than a minute. Mood is great, I feel superb. Strength in gym has gone up slightly, weight aswell.
 
Changed plans is 50mg ED clomid for 30days. its Shree venkatesh (india HG clomid) I'm using.
Day 22 and everything is alright. But my sexual interest is really lacking and I'm guessing I need to have sex with my women soon enough or she will be getting irritated, im not sure, damn you sexual interest. I'm not interested in adding Proviron to the equations, ill just ride it and hope it gets back sometime soon.
 
Throw some more natural test boosters in there for libido.. Me personally daa can some time do the opposite for my sex drive . I prefer tribulus for libido
 
DAY 30
Clomids been 8days now my testicels are much more developed since clomid start. I'm actully gaining at the moment in my 5x5 routine which is also a good sign.
My sexual interest is neutral now, i do it occassionaly.
 
day 33

Im feeling better and better. im surprised, I suppose I am a bit in my recovery phase now. Bloodwork in 4months should tell. No problem with sex drive nothing, motivation,pump,mood all is still good.
I am thrilled and really happy tbh because I was under the impression that I would feel like shit for months, I prayed for it to not happen, maybe god heard me out. I'll keep you posted, can't say to much 33days in.
 
Day 37....
It's all good tbh.. Why is this ? I look jacked in the mirror, my dick can play around everyday with my wifey now, my balls are filled maybe to the size of 60% of its original. I got mad motivation in the gym and in general I feel really good.
 
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TimeHasCome said:
Day 37....
It's all good tbh.. Why is this ? I look jacked in the mirror, my dick can play around everyday with my wifey now, my balls are filled maybe to the size of 60% of its original. I got mad motivation in the gym and in general I feel really good.
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The human body is resilient and if you give it time and feed it , rest and stay healthy it will recover. This log
Is motivating for many, thx for doing this, and keep us posted :)!
 
Day 49
Now and then i get erections.
Vascularity seems to be gone and My lines and seperations seem to dissapere more and more although size has not shrunken
 
Too early to say
Strength has gone up
Size is the same
Weight is the same
Erections happen now and then.
Only the hardness and the steroidlook has dissapere no idea what you call it though, we call it tryck (translated: pressure) lol
 
Hmm okay.
It's day 52 and it did have a sudden change but I suspect a different factor being underlying however for most of the day ive felt depressed.
nothing I can handle though but boredome seems to creep up on me easier, and I just feel low, low life energy.

Right right, lifes a struggle.
I must say musclewise ive kept most so far, and strength is up but thats mostly because i started SL 5x5 at start of pct maybe.

I'm still satisfied but I do miss the juice now, on the juice no problem could tackle me down today the smallest bump in the road in my life tackled me. Damn testosterone made you feel good eh..
I am an ex addict to drugs aswell and ive been doing zero drugs for 4years but I must admit today my mind wanted it again,making all harder.

Ill stay strong.
Peace my brethren
 
It's day 59.
I can't really say anything else right now, I'm starting to feel recovered. Sexual drive is up, I've increased my maxes by 5kilos (2.5lbs?). I feel really good, maybe I got low T but in that case then I react very good to low T lol.
Anyway, I'm celebrating on saturday, me and my wife will have a sexcasty night, you heard it right. Kamagra+Ecstasy=Pure bliss. And in 2weeks we are going to start tryin to get a baby coming hope my boys are up and running enough to be capable of makin it happend.
 
TimeHasCome said:
It's day 59.
I can't really say anything else right now, I'm starting to feel recovered. Sexual drive is up, I've increased my maxes by 5kilos (2.5lbs?). I feel really good, maybe I got low T but in that case then I react very good to low T lol.
Anyway, I'm celebrating on saturday, me and my wife will have a sexcasty night, you heard it right. Kamagra+Ecstasy=Pure bliss. And in 2weeks we are going to start tryin to get a baby coming hope my boys are up and running enough to be capable of makin it happend.
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Maca root might be something to look into for naturally improving semen count and volume . Sounds like your slowly recovering. Thx for logging this experience , and I continue to wish you the best of luck
 
i would be really interested to know how things went.
hava a child? weight? mood? sex drive?
and most important, your conclusion on all this, the steroid use etc...
peace
 
been a while eh, how things went yes well i'll update regardless

kids? nah bro, not today not ever. I'm on the move alot and at the rate Europe is heading downwards with alot of issues there's no chance i'll ever bring a child to this continent, just to suffer through this reality.
weight is pretty steady lost 5-6kilos though and feel a bit more fat than usual.
gains and strength some lost ofcourse, can't benchpress no more so im holdin on to incline and dips for chest only but it's all good. im not weak but not super strong anymore.
mood? probably where it struck me the hardest, first months easy, didnt even feel depressed or low energy driven,tired. but the last 3months have been rough hell, tired, depression, anxiety etc....just the last few days i've been happy for the first time in months. i dont reconsider myself to have come back yet, i think i'm still in early recovery phase. but aslong as i can walk it head strong you know, i will.

conclusion: its not worth it. i wont ever touch steroids again, they have brung nothing but bad emotions to my life. i think this is one of the reasons i can keep goin head strong through depression without askin' for help, medication or anything. i just wanna walk through it take the piss ive earned from it and beat it by the neck. in my opinion, steroids aint worth it. if you are competetive and wan't to live off of bodybuilding? sure. but there's nothing to that life for me, I want without any complications lay and rest on a beach for my last 20years(60-80)
 
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