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Lateral raise or upright row?

casualbb said:
Upright rows give many rotator cuff problems... I'd avoid them if possible.

Not to start a flame war or a nasty argument, but I have to disagree with this statement.

When I perform this movement, I never let my upper arms go above parallel to the floor. Essentially, the bar is kept near chest level at the top position. Also, I use a 14 or 16 inch grip which takes the stress off of the wrists.

It is important to keep constant motion on the delts and traps.

Essentially, the movement is similar to the lateral except the hands are fixed on a bar.

I find this that is a valuable movement that has strengthened my shoulder girdle tremendously.

Just like any other exercise, you can get injured if you use haphazard technique.
 
Louden... I hear what you're saying, and my response is YMMV (Your mileage may vary). What I said was that it causes a lot of people issues. Obviously it doesn't apply to everybody, as evidenced by your ability to do them without issue. But biomechanically it places weight on the rotators in a stretched ... not a good idea.

I don't think the movement itself is so ridiculously productive as to risk potential injury to perform it.
 
I don't really like either of those movements. Shoulder presses are my shoulder exercise of choice, but that's just me.

Upright rows always works my forearms more than anything. But maybe I was doing them wrong.
 
slobberknocker, thats because you use 315 lbs on your upright rows
 
louden_swain said:
Just like any other exercise, you can get injured if you use haphazard technique.

I agree. I think they are pretty effective and I like them with a shoulder width grip. Makes it very similar to a lat raise. Still I tend to be very careful when I'm doing them - slow controlled movements - just in case.
 
I used to do these a lot, but I sometimes got pain in forearms/wrists. Now I just do various types of shrugs and I feel these hit my traps better than, or at least just as well as, upright rows.
 
i work the traps on shoulder-day. a year ago i started supersetting upright rows with shoulder shrugs. since then my traps have blown up.
 
Upright rows are done incorrectly more often than not.
Dudes bringing the bar up and touching the neck/chin causing
stress on the shoulder girdle..

Coming just above the nipple line is as affective and not stressing to the sockets...

Lateral raises done leaning back against a wall are good..
 
Here's a YMMV example...
Upright Rows: never ever been uncomfortable, even when I used to bring the bar to my chin
Lateral Raises: left shoulder audibly "clicks" (and I can feel it) as I reach the top. I don't even want to know what's going on there.

Guess which I do.
 
Madd Hatter said:
Here's a YMMV example...
Upright Rows: never ever been uncomfortable, even when I used to bring the bar to my chin
Lateral Raises: left shoulder audibly "clicks" (and I can feel it) as I reach the top. I don't even want to know what's going on there.

Guess which I do.

Woah thats sweet :) I have the same problem! but i can't remember if its my right or left shoulder that clicks... i don't even care anymore lol..it doesn't hurt..just feels funny. Anyhow I do both exercises.
 
leatherface said:


Woah thats sweet :) I have the same problem! but i can't remember if its my right or left shoulder that clicks... i don't even care anymore lol..it doesn't hurt..just feels funny. Anyhow I do both exercises.

Hey my shoulder clicks too on laterral raises around when my arms are parallel...I've always wondered what it was. It doesn't hurt at all, so I haven't stopped doing the exercise. Hope its nothing bad
 
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