Lady needs a little advice

[lady sings the blues]

I am going to be using clembuterol and drinking winny and I was looking for doses and stacking information. As well how long should I keep the stack or winny alone up.

I am only 5-1 and I need to lose weight and get cut up. I am very overweight due to an old illness that put me on pregnazone and led to a huge amount of weight. Before I got sick I was in competiton shape.

Thank you in advance to any responces

 

[KeepinMyGains]

What is your stats? Without it it's impossible to give advice.

 

[KeepinMyGains]

Oh and Warm Welcome.

 

[lady sings the blues]

I am 5 foot 1 and I weigh 160lbs. I hit the gym 4 times a week and do cardio every morning and 3 days a week I do an extra cardio at night. I am doing a cycle diet with only have carbs(lean) one to 2 days a week

Is that what you wee talking about when you meant my stats

 

[KeepinMyGains]

I can understand using Clenbuterol, but Winstrol with your BF% I can imagine you are in the 30% range? Unless your worried about loosing muscle mass I would not use it. You can go to routes 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Start your clen off at 30-40MCG and work your way up to 80 or 100MCG. Dosage is dependent on side effects.

Or you can Take 50mg of Benadryl or another antihistamine containing 50mg of diphenhydrmine every night during every third week while you are on Clen. So I would dose my Clen as usual and at day 14 add the Benadryl every night for 7 nights (while still taking the clen). Discontinue the Benadryl until day 35 and repeat.

Honestly though I would just go with clen diet, and cardio. There is no need for stimulants.

 

[lady sings the blues]

I build muscle very fast and the faser I buils muscle the more fat I will burn and that is why I want to use the winny. I was thinking of a 4 week cycle drinking everyday aound 25mg, but I have seen on other sites that women should only do 10mg of the winny per day.

 

[KeepinMyGains]

I only know a few ladies who use AAS and they all use Anavar. You should also post some questions in the Ladies forum for better responses. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/womens-fitness-female-bodybuilding-training/ Hope I was able to help out a little.

 

[goin on 4T]

I build muscle very fast and the faser I buils muscle the more fat I will burn.

That is a misconception, loose the fat first! Then put on the muscle! You can do it your way it will just take longer...
GLTY

 

[ironwings]

Welcome to EF! I also agree that putting on muscle first is effective. It also allows you ample time to work through your diet and get it just right before cutting. It sounds like if you were in competition shape you have the discipline it takes to diet. That is a huge advantage.

Have you ever cycled before on Winny or any other aas? I can't support Clen, crazy stuff and not worth it - weight will come right back on. But Lipoflame sold through agxsports if far safer, less sides and just as effective when you are ready to cut. I would also suggest Anavar over Winny any day for strength gains. Far less sides and most get the same if not better results (hardness, less trunk fat etc.). Winny can tear you up - even at small doses. Sides as Bikinimom stated but the worse can be achy joints. Let me take that back, painful joints - particularly the knees.

There are lots of ladies here that can help you through your journey. Most all of us prefer to get diet and strength/cardio training down to a science before using stiumlants or aas. But, to each there own. It would be great if you could post up a typical's day diet and workouts. I'm not a "dieter" but there are ladies on here that are experts. Your current diet sounds a lot like an anabolic diet. Check out Tatayna's thread on anabolic diets.

I hope I continue to see you posting! This is a great place to get support!!! AND - share. Sounds like you would have tons to share with us as well! You'll reach your goals - sure of it.

 

[ironwings]

Oh yes, I forgot about the joints. I believe that this is because Winstrol actually draws fluid out of the joints? Am I correct?

Exactly. And boy does it. Even if well hydrated. I once laid in bed with icy hot patches on every single joint in my body. Never again. I couldn't even get up and down out of the floor much less squat any weight.

 

[goin on 4T]

I must humbly disagree about "losing fat first, then putting on muscle". The more lean mass you have, the higher your metabolism will be even when at rest, the more fat you will burn.

Good luck putting on lean muscle under fat and the amount of increase in metabolism is insignificant compared to getting on a good repetitive cardio routine and I understand it is especially hard for a woman to lean out. Respectfully, don't be absurd you don't put on lean mass under fat.

 

[goin on 4T]

With all due respect, where then do you put lean mass exactly?

Your comments are incongruous and don't make scientific sense.

I have been female all of my life. Had four kids, was a fattie from the time I was a kid until after I had my kids. I was also a certified fitness professional who had clients from all walks of life, who had varied goals as well as varied limitations. As long as they worked with me (and not against themselves) they achieved whatever goal they had in mind - whether it was to gain strength and function, lose bf, become more pliable, etc.

Too much cardio will make a body CATABOLIC (which will tear lean mass DOWN). Not only that, but what is a person supposed to do once their body's metabolism adjusts to that frequency and duration of cardio to continue progress? The human body adjusts extremely quickly.

I will await your reply.

You put on lean mass as you take of fat. But if you focus on putting on mass/muscle you will not get there as fast as you would like and will get discouraged and quit. REALITY

I am glad you are a female and have had four kids, I am a male and my X wife had 4 kids. She gained an average of 70lbs with each pregnancy, I gained an average of 35lbs. She and I didn't loose the weight working out putting on muscle. It was done with consistant cardio and some weights and no AAS! My last wieght loss was from 240+ down to 192, I went from over 30% body fat to 8%. I did it with consistant cardio 20-30 min every day and this crazy thing called concious eating, eating correctly. I am sure you are knowledgeable in that area as well.

That is great that you were a trainer, I have been training off and on since I was a sophmore in high school.

Yes too much cardio will burn muscle not fat. I never said to do too much cardio. Do you know an easy way to tell if you are burning muscle while you are doing cardio?

To tell someone who is just starting to hit the weights with no mention of cardio or diet is very questionable to me and to others who are still in the business of fitness.

 

[goin on 4T]

So what you said was Kudos and 41 that is very nice!

 

[localgirl]

Hey Lady-
these ladies know theyre aas!! Please take theyre words of wisdom to heart. From my personal experience,
I find clen to be garbage, dont get me wrong, it works..but short term.. not worth all the shakey, sweaty sides. I find an ECA stack
to be the most effective & tried & true for a fat burner.
Ive never tryed Winny.. my boyfriend takes it between his cycles & I have known a few other MEN who take it...its never been recommended for myself, a female, to use it. I have had GREAT success with ANAVAR. I took 5mg ED & have gotten great gains from it. Plus it has little negative sides at such a low dose.. a swollen clitoris ( i didnt see as a problem..lol) and some hair shedding.
While these supp's are a great help, dont forget you will not have success without a tight diet & consistant excersize..but you already KNOW THAT!
good luck! & I know you will reach your personal fitness goals!

 

[goin on 4T]

lol

 

[goin on 4T]

BM I am sorry for getting off track on my post, I should not have let my personal issues derail me from my intention of trying to say what I meant about loosing the weight first.
Regards,
Goin on 4t