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punkassmofo
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check form. Make sure your knees are not wobbleing around or stance isnt to wide. I noticed if I squat with a WIDE stance it hurts my knees.
Thats interesting, I do my squats with a wider than hip width stance. I've always been told to do them with a wider stance because it takes less stress off the knee, which is especially important for me because I had ACL surgery. Also, check out this page for more information on squating health issues.
Make sure you are warming up thoroughly, it takes me forever to get to my working weight but I squat really heavy and haven't had knee pain in ten years.
Unless you are doing a single rep max, WRAPS ARE THE DEVIL! They will only make your knees weaker as the will do the work for them while the rest of your legs get stronger.
Unless you are doing a single rep max, WRAPS ARE THE DEVIL! They will only make your knees weaker as the will do the work for them while the rest of your legs get stronger.
Bigsatan13
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Are you squatting below parallel?
punkassmofo
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Hey DaCypher, I didnt mean everyone I meant me. Sorry. I was just saying check form cause for ME if I go to wide It hurts my knees. Sorry for the confusion. Needsize you are correct also, It takes me about 5 warm up sets till I get to my worksets or my hips and knees are not ready and my back for that matter.....
how long have your knees been bothering you?
how is your form now? i've had 2 knee scopes and re-occuring bilateral hamstring tears. this was back in 97 (tears) and the scopes were in 90. my quads used to be stronger than my hamstrings, due to training my quads harder....i used to hate squats because i was afraid to ask for help on my form. now, i love squats and i've not had any problems for almost a year now......plus my measurements have increased since then as well. start off w/a lighter weight to do a warm up set to 12 reps slow. then gradually increase your weight but ck your stance and go to parallel (grab a bench and set it between your legs as your "parallel" marker). good luck.
how is your form now? i've had 2 knee scopes and re-occuring bilateral hamstring tears. this was back in 97 (tears) and the scopes were in 90. my quads used to be stronger than my hamstrings, due to training my quads harder....i used to hate squats because i was afraid to ask for help on my form. now, i love squats and i've not had any problems for almost a year now......plus my measurements have increased since then as well. start off w/a lighter weight to do a warm up set to 12 reps slow. then gradually increase your weight but ck your stance and go to parallel (grab a bench and set it between your legs as your "parallel" marker). good luck.
Warm up, and do box squats. Your knees should not go fwd when squatting this way...they should be straight up and down.
I have always done deep full squats, with very little to no knee pain.
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I have always done deep full squats, with very little to no knee pain.
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macho21
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I have really studied the proper form of the squat, and attempt it every time. This does not mean that at the time of doing them, they are executed correctly. I will try to apply some of the advice that you guys gave me, but i will like to hear some more. I warm up before doing them, and i try to pay attention to form, but my knees still hurt for several days afterwards.
mattcanning99
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warm up properly, and do this - forget about the weight...focus primarily on form...if this is still happening with your knees than you might consider wrapping them...but ive seen this problem before and in the majority of all cases, it has been caused by improperly squatting
MrMuscle
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go see a doc. make him examine your muscular structure in your quads and hamstrings..you might have to find an expert for this..he can tell you if your tigh muscles are short, and that way are pulling on your knee caps when you are squatting..he might even tell you to stop doing them, because of your genetics. i stopped doing both squat and legpresses a while back, because of my knees..and now my quads are growing like never before.
from Dr. Squat:
COMMON PROBLEMS OF THE KNEE
- Chondromalacia patellae: Softening of the articular cartilage of the patella that is produced by osteoarthritic degeneration. Such cartilage is unsuited for the high compressive loads and frictional forces involved in squatting, and roughening of the underside of the kneecap is common. Tight quads are responsible for 80% of chondromalacia. Other causes include aging, repetitive overuse, and faulty biomechanics due to genetics.
- Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome (PFPS): Exemplified by pain in front of patella, which intensifies during activity. Also, pain during extended sitting, and/or walking up stairs. PFPS is further characterized by crepitus (noise), without instability. PFPS is considered to be a tracking problem ofthe patella, caused by an imbalance between the medial and lateral quadriceps. The damage to the underside of the patella is not unlike uneven tread wear in a car that needs the tires rotated.
- Unstable Knee Joint: Knee suddenly gives out. This is often caused by old injuries which have overstretched the knee ligaments.
- Locked Knee: The usual cause of locked knees is a torn meniscus or a loose body within the joint capsule.
- Swelling/Tightness: Nearly always indicates an internal injury. See physician immediately.
- Crepitus: Noisy knees are no reason for concern, UNLESS accompanied by pain and/or swelling.
COMMON PROBLEMS OF THE KNEE
- Chondromalacia patellae: Softening of the articular cartilage of the patella that is produced by osteoarthritic degeneration. Such cartilage is unsuited for the high compressive loads and frictional forces involved in squatting, and roughening of the underside of the kneecap is common. Tight quads are responsible for 80% of chondromalacia. Other causes include aging, repetitive overuse, and faulty biomechanics due to genetics.
- Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome (PFPS): Exemplified by pain in front of patella, which intensifies during activity. Also, pain during extended sitting, and/or walking up stairs. PFPS is further characterized by crepitus (noise), without instability. PFPS is considered to be a tracking problem ofthe patella, caused by an imbalance between the medial and lateral quadriceps. The damage to the underside of the patella is not unlike uneven tread wear in a car that needs the tires rotated.
- Unstable Knee Joint: Knee suddenly gives out. This is often caused by old injuries which have overstretched the knee ligaments.
- Locked Knee: The usual cause of locked knees is a torn meniscus or a loose body within the joint capsule.
- Swelling/Tightness: Nearly always indicates an internal injury. See physician immediately.
- Crepitus: Noisy knees are no reason for concern, UNLESS accompanied by pain and/or swelling.
