kinda tricky question........

[purezero]

Ok I'm helping my roommate set up his first cycle. I need some help. Here is his requirments.

1. Has to be oral. He cant inject

2. Wants the most in strengh and size gains with least amount of side effects.

3. Lowest cost as possible. not that important, but ya know.

4. Need to keep as much gains as possible. dont want to do more than 2 or 3 cycles.

So I would appreciate any recommendations. Also what dosages of Nova,clomid, or ameridex and when during the cycle.


Really appreciate it guys.

 

[genarr3]

Magicbolen.

 

[sigweed]

well the first thing you friend has to do is understand how unrealistic his request is. There no such thing as the perfect oral cycle where he'll gain 35 pounds of lean muscle in one cycle, and never need to do it again.

But in answer to your question, you're gonna wanna definitly toss in dbol there. I've known some people who've made some great gains on dbol alone, plus if you're looking for mass, its debatably the best oral to take.

i'd suggest something like 25mg/day for 6 weeks, then followed by about 3 weeks of clomid

but i cant promise your friend will keep the gains. Apparently dbol gains will all go away in a matter of weeks, even tho everyone i know personally that has taken them has kept most of their gains.. so i dunno

good luck

 

[The Terminator]

If your "roommate" can't inject then I would advise not taking any gear at all. You could probably run an anavar cycle only but the gains would be minimal, at best. (and quite costly as well)

 

[Quadsweep]

Magicbolen.

LMFAO!!!HAHAHHAHAHA

ABRAKADABRA! POOF!! Instant muscles!

 

[genarr3]

Quadsweep is that your ass? Nice!

 

[needleboy]

the problem will be tha the majority of orals are 17-aa and cannot safely be stacked in large doses or for long periods He could try:

weeks 1-3 Dbol & tren( for oral application he'll nees fina pellets, but would be better off using DMSO, and doing it transdermal!)


weeks 4-8 Anavar and tren

If he wants to be in this game long term, and likes his liver, he needs to learn to love the needle, or he is wasting his time!

 

[sigweed]

i also wanna add that it is apparent that your roomate knows nothing about AS, and therefore shouldn't be taking any anyways. He has the classic stereotypical thought of steroids that we all laugh at. They're not this magic pill that you take with a glass of water once a week, and the next thing you know you're ripped with a girl hanging off each leg, with supplement companies constantly phoning you begging for you to endorse their product for $400 million a year, while you live in your California Mansion while doing Hollywood movies on the side, to pay the rent on your private island somewhere off the coast of Hawaii...

sorry got a little side tracked, i just dont like how outsiders think!

anyways yea, good luck with your roomates cycle! be sure to let us know how it goes

and btw, recommend this to him, because it's a lot cheaper and safer than AS: EAT RIGHT AND WORK OUT!!!

P.S. I hope your "roommate" isn't the same guy as all these people who ask for some info for their "friend".

 

[genarr3]

i also wanna add that it is apparent that your roomate knows nothing about AS, and therefore shouldn't be taking any anyways. He has the classic stereotypical thought of steroids that we all laugh at. They're not this magic pill that you take with a glass of water once a week, and the next thing you know you're ripped with a girl hanging off each leg, with supplement companies constantly phoning you begging for you to endorse their product for $400 million a year, while you live in your California Mansion while doing Hollywood movies on the side, to pay the rent on your private island somewhere off the coast of Hawaii...

sorry got a little side tracked, i just dont like how outsiders think!

anyways yea, good luck with your roomates cycle! be sure to let us know how it goes

and btw, recommend this to him, because it's a lot cheaper and safer than AS: EAT RIGHT AND WORK OUT!!!

P.S. I hope your "roommate" isn't the same guy as all these people who ask for some info for their "friend".

He's lying.

 

[purezero]

Sorry guys. I dont want to sound like a troll. I will be the first to admit im not a expert. I just finished my first cycle of Sus250 and dbol. He was impressed with my gains but dont want shots. So i thought i would ask. Sorry if i bothered you guys.

 

[needleboy]

No bother, jus alot of guys get frustrated when youger/newer guys ask this because they don't LEARN what theese drugs do(including sides) before they start using.

This shit ain't Pez, these are powerful drugs that can hurt people if used incorrectly!

It sems like they are being mean, and maybe they are, but with good intentions!

 

[chronicx357]

no one bothered anyone .... but an oral only cycle in my opinion is not worth it. orals are worse for your health that injectables. if he cant handle a shot he cant handle steroids

 

[genarr3]

Ok now you made me feel bad. The problem is an oral that will give great size and strength gains usually won't give the most lasting gains. Take dBol or Anadrol, you will get good size and strength gains while on it but a lot of those gains will be water and quickly lost when you go off. On the other hand you have an oral like Anavar which will give more lasting gains, but not what could be considered huge strength and size gains, and it isn't cheap. If you must do an oral give a dBol only cycle a try, a lot of people have done this and have been happy with the results. Cheapest way to go to.

 

[drrman]

whats the matter, is he afraid of injecting in his sphincter

 

[sigweed]

yea sorry if i came off as harsh, ive just been so damn busy recently that the stress is piling up.

Check the dbol cycle i recommended in my first post, that might be worth a try

as for clomid, he'd wanna do 100mg/day for the first week, then 50mg/day for the remaining two weeks. And if he wants to maybe even do more clomid, because it couldnt hurt, but also may not be necessary.

and who knows, if his body reacts to dbol well, then he could get really decent gains, but just make sure his diet is in check, and he's got a good routine going down at the gym. Also tell him to get his butt on the puter, come register a name here, and learn till he can't learn no more!

cheers and good luck!

addition: start clomid roughly 4 hours after your last pill