Killed a cat

[guards]

Alright, I want some input.


I was driving back from class yesterday and hit a cat with my car. I got out and realised that the cat had been hurt pretty bad but had not died. So I backed over the cat again to make sure it was dead. My friend who was in the car with me thought I was some sort of crazy cat-killer, but I just didn't want to see it suffer OR pay the 200 bucks to have it put down at the vet's. Did I do the right thing or not???

 

[saint808]

kind of... maybe?

 

[guards]

kind of... maybe?

??????


I've got a pretty bad guilt complex at the moment cause the girl I'm seeing found out about this and is freakin' at me right now. Says I have no compassion......but I thought I had a LOT of compassion by putting the stupid thing out of it's misery.

 

[BigGuns2]

You did the right thing bro. It would have been far worse to have left the poor cat in the road to suffer.

 

[starfish]

If the cat was hurt really bad, you did the right thing. If it was going to die anyway- it just would have suffered.

If the cat was only hurt a little, you should have taken it to the vet or no-kill animal shelter.

But it sounds like you did the right thing. If you didn't care, you would not have asked.

starfish

 

[HamsterHider]

I MEAN YOU DID WHAT YOU HAD TO DO. IT WOULD HAVE SUFFERED MORE ON THE RIDE TO THE VET. BUT YOU COULD HAVE CALLED GARZA HE WOULD HAVE DONE IT FOR FREE. HE HAS A CAT FETISH.

 

[gymtime]

I think you did the right thing, assuming of course that you didn't get some kind of twisted pleasure out of it.

 

[bignuts]

dude you did the right thing, it didnt even suffer, well maybe after the 2nd rollover it didnt feel much

 

[gymtime]

...I've got a pretty bad guilt complex at the moment cause the girl I'm seeing found out about this and is freakin' at me right now. Says I have no compassion......but I thought I had a LOT of compassion by putting the stupid thing out of it's misery.

Your gf is acting out of pure emotion, as women often do. She's probably thinking the cat could have been saved which I'm guessing is pretty unlikely. The cruel thing would have been to leave it there or prolong it's agony.

 

[danielson]

maybe

if it was gonna die from its injuries than that might have been the best thing to do, depends how bad you hit it, if you got most of it under the wheel you probably would have crushed is internal organs so it would die v.painfully

i dont know how i would have killed it if i was forced to though....i might not have driven over it again but on the spur of the moment i might have, hindsight never takes this into account.

i dont know how attached people get to their cats as im a dog peron myself, but i'd maybe try and contact the owner to let them know where the body is and that it is dead, as they might get very sad andlonely, especially if their old and they areattached to it. if my dog died i know i would.

but i wouldn't beat myself up about it. it would have been far worse to leave it there, you probably did the right thing

 

[big4life]

I think you did the right thing, assuming of course that you didn't get some kind of twisted pleasure out of it.

And don't make a habit out of it either.

 

[guards]

maybe

if it was gonna die from its injuries than that might have been the best thing to do, depends how bad you hit it, if you got most of it under the wheel you probably would have crushed is internal organs so it would die v.painfully

i dont know how i would have killed it if i was forced to though....i might not have driven over it again but on the spur of the moment i might have, hindsight never takes this into account.

i dont know how attached people get to their cats as im a dog peron myself, but i'd maybe try and contact the owner to let them know where the body is and that it is dead, as they might get very sad andlonely, especially if their old and they areattached to it. if my dog died i know i would.

but i wouldn't beat myself up about it. it would have been far worse to leave it there, you probably did the right thing

The cat was pretty fucked up, so i doubt it would have lived for very long anyway. I had run over its hindquarters with both tires..........pretty nasty. Anyway, I tried to find the owner but the cat didn't have any tags on nor did it have any ear tattoo, so I had to leave it on the side of the road.

I love cats, as i have one who is my best bud, so this really sucked for me. i just thought that if it was me, and I was suffering knowing that I would die, I would hope someone would put me out of my misery. Except my girlfriend says that i should have done everything I could have to save the cat, even if it meant shelling out money for vet bills.

Oh well, thanx for putting my mind at ease lads.

 

[nevertoobig]

I've always wondered why vets are so quick to put an animal down so that it 'doesnt suffer' even when theres a chance of it living.

It doesn't happen with humans, so why with animals?...Especially when vets are such animal lovers.

 

[starfish]

You did the right thing. I'm very into animal rights and the worse thing is for an animal to suffer or be mistreated.

starfish

 

[nevertoobig]

You did the right thing. I'm very into animal rights and the worse thing is for an animal to suffer or be mistreated.

starfish

But if it was a human, do you think the same thing should be done?

 

[danielson]

The cat was pretty fucked up, so i doubt it would have lived for very long anyway. I had run over its hindquarters with both tires..........pretty nasty. Anyway, I tried to find the owner but the cat didn't have any tags on nor did it have any ear tattoo, so I had to leave it on the side of the road.

I love cats, as i have one who is my best bud, so this really sucked for me. i just thought that if it was me, and I was suffering knowing that I would die, I would hope someone would put me out of my misery. Except my girlfriend says that i should have done everything I could have to save the cat, even if it meant shelling out money for vet bills.

Oh well, thanx for putting my mind at ease lads.

i dont know all that much about cat physiology, but cahnces are it would be on its way out anyhow. my vet wanted to put my dog down if he couldnt use his hindlegs, so i assume the same would happen to the cat

as for putting animals down, animal medicine doesnt have the same research $$ thrown at it so it isnt as advanced prbably, also an animal isnt like a huma in if it gets depressed due to not being able to walk you cant cure it/treat it. the thing would have probably died. get your girl to speak to someone in the knowhow if shes that pissed. plus animal euthanasia is much easier than human

btw some animals have these chips implanted under their skin incase someting like this happnes, my mutt has one. otherwise id just out an ad. in the local newspaper/newsagnt saying a cat of that description was dead

 

[starfish]

If the cat was going to lay in the road and die, he did the right thing. He he just broke it's leg or something, he should have taken it to the vet.

As for the human thing, be realistic.


I'm extremely into animal rights. You would be amazed at what is done to animals that you have no idea about.

starfish

 

[danielson]

If the cat was going to lay in the road and die, he did the right thing. He he just broke it's leg or something, he should have taken it to the vet.

As for the human thing, be realistic.


I'm extremely into animal rights. You would be amazed at what is done to animals that you have no idea about.

starfish

outta curiousity whats yor stance on animal testing?

ok in all cases? or are there specific instances where it should be used?


ive actually spoken to a woman who genetically engineered mice to glow in the dark using DNA from jellyfish (i think, or someother glow in the dark species) - opposed to this or not?

 

[starfish]

What kind of testing are you talking about??

To be honest, I have mixed feelings about a lot of it. There are some that are completely ridiculous.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do things also.

starfish

 

[nevertoobig]

If the cat was going to lay in the road and die, he did the right thing. He he just broke it's leg or something, he should have taken it to the vet.

As for the human thing, be realistic.


I'm extremely into animal rights. You would be amazed at what is done to animals that you have no idea about.

starfish

Im not denying your passion for animal rights, but to me life is life.

In my opinion, the decision to end an animals life should at least be controversial. Does a human have the right to play God?

Even if the animals is dying...would it be right to go up to a dying cancer victim and shoot them in the head because you thought they were suffering too much?

 

[danielson]

well say

cosmetic testing

drug testing

poison testing

military testing

genetic research

genetic manipulation of animals (i.e. sticking in other species DNA into thiers)

disease testing (i.e. making mice have cancer then studying them)

stuff like that

im just curious as there is a HUGE who-ha about animal tesing being done over here in a place called huntingdon life research as activist claim they are being inhumane, while workers and the government claim they are not and activists are harrasing/threatening the life of workers

 

[DDS24]

Star, simply out of curiosity, what type of testing goes on??

 

[starfish]

That's a pretty serious subject.

So would you rather see an animal suffer to it's death??

As for someone in the hospital with terminal cancer, I'm sure they are made as comfortable as possible with drugs and such...

To be serious, I knew a girl in a bad car accident who was declared brain dead. Her parents made the decision to turn-off life support for her. Is that what you are talking about???

starfish

 

[danielson]

That's a pretty serious subject.

So would you rather see an animal suffer to it's death??

As for someone in the hospital with terminal cancer, I'm sure they are made as comfortable as possible with drugs and such...

To be serious, I knew a girl in a bad car accident who was declared brain dead. Her parents made the decision to turn-off life support for her. Is that what you are talking about???

starfish

no im being totally serious, im an animal lover too, member of the RSPCA, IFAW etc

i dont want to see an animal suffer to its death. however the scientist in me realises the neccessity for animal testing to be carried out so we know drugs are safe before their use on humans. at the end of the day whether we like it or not we will never stick a substance into a person without risking an animal


but i just wondered what someone else's perspectives on different aspects of testing would be. i might even starts a new thread later as im wuite interested. TV debates always hae a die hard scientist versus a vegan (who wont eat honey because it exploits bee's) so gain nothing from that

using my list

cosmetic testing - no, if there is any doubt about stabdardeveryday cosmetics theyshouldnt be using them. if it is a cosmetic thatcan help a burn victim or someting like that then yes. lipstick on rabbits is a no-no

drug testing - yes. absolutely necessary

poison testing - sadly yes. many rats have developped immunity to many types of poison, 'super rats'. 1/3 of indias foods is lost to pests such as rodents so this research is vital

military testing - no. facsimilies of human heads can be produced

genetic research - cloning is needed for the manipulatiojn bit but huge risks as described below. genome mapping is 100% fione with me

genetic manipulation of animals (i.e. sticking in other species DNA into thiers) yes. huge potential here. plus would the animal even realise if the breeding was successful. im incredibly sad however about all the failed animals that get produced as they are really malformed, i think they should be put down immeadiately.


disease testing - yes. we need to see how diseases progress unfortunately

those are my viewpoints as a 'scientist' with a bit of a foot on the other side, i just wondered what your views were?

just again, id never make fun out of an animals plight. unless a dog is trying to chase his own tail. that never ceases to crack me up. my dog used to do it when he was young

 

[starfish]

danielson,

I agree with you. I've worked with animals a lot- mother nature is tough. I took me a long time to get used to that at work.

I get really mad at companies who do unnecessary animal testing or cause an animal unnecessary suffering.

Things I hate:

Animals in circuses. Elephants were not put on this earth for that.

Cosmetic Testing: companies like Gillette would test shaving creams in rabbit eyes.

Product testing: Ford used to crash test their cars with monkeys or dogs inside.

As for diseases, I can understand that- it is hard. It can still be done in a humane way.

If a lot of you saw the inside of a slaughter house you would become instant vegetarians- a lot is done in the name of faster $$$$$.

starfish

 

[nevertoobig]

That's a pretty serious subject.

So would you rather see an animal suffer to it's death??

As for someone in the hospital with terminal cancer, I'm sure they are made as comfortable as possible with drugs and such...

To be serious, I knew a girl in a bad car accident who was declared brain dead. Her parents made the decision to turn-off life support for her. Is that what you are talking about???

starfish

I know its a serious subject, i think it should be taken more seriously. People obviously dont value animal life as much as human life, otherwise there would be the same debate about 'putting down' animals as there is about euthanasia.

Would i prefer to see an animal suffer to its death?...Of course not, but if there was ANY chance of helping an animal live, then i would help it to live.

Drugs can help to make terminally ill people feel comfortable, but the same can be done for animals. You can stop the animal from suffering AND help it to live or die.

 

[danielson]

i know what goes on in slaughter houses, or a little of the nasty ass stuff anyhow

bad kharma for me i guess (in real life that is, eating meat is bad kharma apprently)


but yeah....i agree with you. no idea about the circus animals though but im sure they dot like it too much

 

[buksoon]

i know what goes on in slaughter houses, or a little of the nasty ass stuff anyhow

bad kharma for me i guess (in real life that is, eating meat is bad kharma apprently)

Do I dare get into the vegetarian debate? Hell no! Gave that up almost right after I gave up meat. Just an exercise in frustration.

Just strikes me as weird that there are people so concerned about animal testing but have no thoughts about the treatment the animals received while they were being bred and raised specifically to be slaughtered.

 

[satanic goatslayer]

It would have been more ethical to snap the cat's spine and throw it into a bonfire.

 

[danielson]

Do I dare get into the vegetarian debate? Hell no! Gave that up almost right after I gave up meat. Just an exercise in frustration.

Just strikes me as weird that there are people so concerned about animal testing but have no thoughts about the treatment the animals received while they were being bred and raised specifically to be slaughtered.

oh i hate that treatment too, but i have to say the only things i do about it is not buy food that has animals reared in those kinds of conditions.

but then again at te end of the day the animals gonna die at some point before you eat it. as long as they do it humanely or try their best to i dont have a problem with it.

whereas with drug testing they can feed a rat poison that will cause it to slowly bleed to death so it will walk away from the poison and then die so it dont stink up trhe place

i would have gone with a blow to the spinal cord too SG

 

[buksoon]

oh i hate that treatment too, but i have to say the only things i do about it is not buy food that has animals reared in those kinds of conditions.

How do know, though? Maybe it's different in England, but here, to know the conditions of any meat/poultry farm is never certain. And what about restaurants? You just never know.

 

[danielson]

How do know, though? Maybe it's different in England, but here, to know the conditions of any meat/poultry farm is never certain. And what about restaurants? You just never know.

hardly eat in resturants but yeah, you dont always get that chance. they never meet my dietary needs anyway

as for standard food, yes if you want to buy food over here where you know the animal has been treated fairly its V.easy ......they sell food from animals that have been reared in conditions agreeable with independant organistaions/investigations and are clearly identified by the label. the downside is it costs more.

 

[Virtual Acid]

.....

Okay yep u did the right thing kinda.. i feel bad for the poor lil thing though....but um... 200$ to put a cat down, i Dont think so

 

[Benzi]

Alright, I want some input.


I was driving back from class yesterday and hit a cat with my car. I got out and realised that the cat had been hurt pretty bad but had not died. So I backed over the cat again to make sure it was dead. My friend who was in the car with me thought I was some sort of crazy cat-killer, but I just didn't want to see it suffer OR pay the 200 bucks to have it put down at the vet's. Did I do the right thing or not???

No, now kill yourself!
jk -- you did the right thing

 

[musclebrains]

I've always wondered why vets are so quick to put an animal down so that it 'doesnt suffer' even when theres a chance of it living.

It doesn't happen with humans, so why with animals?...Especially when vets are such animal lovers.

Because we treat pets more compassionately than humans?

 

[Captain_insano]

Alright, I want some input.


I was driving back from class yesterday and hit a cat with my car. I got out and realised that the cat had been hurt pretty bad but had not died. So I backed over the cat again to make sure it was dead. My friend who was in the car with me thought I was some sort of crazy cat-killer, but I just didn't want to see it suffer OR pay the 200 bucks to have it put down at the vet's. Did I do the right thing or not???

It's better than a premeditated burial of the cat head high and then mowing it's head over with the grass cutter.

 

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i think your GF sounds a bit too irrational for her own good