Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I am thinking about going on a diet in 2 months and i am wondering does the ketogenic diet make u feel weaker or stronger, and should liquid aminos be used instead of whey to avoid the sugar. Does this diet really make u shredded. Also what other supplements besides fat burners help u to get shredded.
Ketogenic diet and supplements
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enrage
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If this is your first keto diet the first week is hell. I would suggest taking folic acid if your meal plan consists of cheese, bacon and high fatty meats. The folic acid will just help your heart and prevent any future problems with your ticker. go ahead and stick with the whey and forget about taking the liquid aminoes. Your body will need as much protein as your can get.
Since your body may start feeling a bit weak i would suggest taking some type of test booster along the way. dieting down can decrease your testerone levels dramatically. You can take a product like tribex-500 to keep your T-levels elevated.
Since your body may start feeling a bit weak i would suggest taking some type of test booster along the way. dieting down can decrease your testerone levels dramatically. You can take a product like tribex-500 to keep your T-levels elevated.
cool enrage but i thought sugars should and carbs should be at zero until weekend when u do a carbo load. If so then shouldn't the whey be avoided until weekend since it will contain sugars. Is this diet very effective at serious fat reduction. I no some guys that were preparing for a show and they would eat oats carbs late after they workout.
MonStar1023
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I would maybe suggest glucose disposal agents like ALA or chromium during the low-carb stage. I would also maybe suggest ALA during the carb-up. A good fat-burner is good too during the no-carb phase like Adipokinetix + Ephedrine or something along those lines..
Good luck!
Good luck!
enrage
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After looking at my container of whey and noticing that 2 servings only contain 5 grams of sugar. I think such a small amount of sugar will not play a big role in your keto diet. Come'on its just 5 grams. YOu can probably burn that taking a crap on the toilet.
It would be good to stock up on some flax seed oil or Udo's while your on the diet. Most of your calories should come for the efa's while dieting down. If you decide to have a cheat day filled with carbs. It will be a good idea to take at least 12-15 caps of ALA in the morning and at lunch. THis will help with your insulin levels and may keep you falling into an insulin induced coma from chowing down 12 big macs at Mickey D's
Friendly reminders:
Supplements that you must use include folic acid to help control homocysteine levels, flaxseed oil and fish oil capsules to counter any cholesterol problems, and a high-quality multivitamin to fill in any possible nutritional gaps.
Don't use any fat burners on your carb-up day. For one, taking a fat burner would make you forget about food, thus negating the benefits of the carb-up day. Two, your receptors need a day off from the fatburner so they can "up-regulate."
Add psyllium fiber (Metamucil) to your shakes so that you get about 25 grams of fiber a day. (In lieu of the Metamucil, you could always use the unfortunately named Colon Cleanse product at night. It's carb-free and calorie-free, sort of like eating some emulsified plywood.)
Protein intake should be 1.4-1.8 grams per kilogram (0.6-0.8 grams per pound) of bodyweight. The rest of the calories should come from carbs (limits defined above) and fat. Don't try to make up the rest of your calorie requirements by eating more protein. The body will eventually deaminate the amino acids and make glucose so that you'll have no hope of reaching ketosis, even though this diet doesn't necessarily require you to enter complete ketosis in order for it to work.
If you're going to use a high-carb (or higher-carb) post-workout shake, it's best to drink it later in the day so that you don't feel groggy. In other words, work out later in the day, if possible.
Why use alpha lipoic acid? ALA is a potent, insulin-mimicking agent, among other things. If you're following this diet, you'll want to remove as much glucose as you safely can and as fast as you can from your bloodstream. If you've got too much glucose in your plasma, there's absolutely no chance that you'll enter—or be able to maintain—ketosis. To accomplish this, the muscles have to utilize glucose peripherally. Additionally, you want to minimize or stop amino acid-derived gluconeogenesis from occurring in the liver, as this can also throw you out of ketosis. A recent study found that ALA dramatically increased peripheral glucose utilization in diabetic patients. Administration of ALA to fasting nondiabetic or diabetic rats caused a rapid reduction in blood glucose with no effect on circulating insulin levels.
Even if you're not following a "near ketosis" diet, ALA can help you. Another recent study found that ALA is able to stimulate glucose uptake in insulin-resistant cells, and it may have therapeutic implications in increasing glucose availability in tissues such as skeletal muscle. Since glucose is the predominant fuel that powers your muscles, increasing the available glucose in muscle cells is akin to putting a bigger gas tank and intake manifold in your car—you can go a "whole lot farther" (or increase the number of repetitions that you're doing for a given exercise), and you can "increase the horsepower and torque" (or increase the amount of weight in a given lift).
It would be good to stock up on some flax seed oil or Udo's while your on the diet. Most of your calories should come for the efa's while dieting down. If you decide to have a cheat day filled with carbs. It will be a good idea to take at least 12-15 caps of ALA in the morning and at lunch. THis will help with your insulin levels and may keep you falling into an insulin induced coma from chowing down 12 big macs at Mickey D's
Friendly reminders:
Supplements that you must use include folic acid to help control homocysteine levels, flaxseed oil and fish oil capsules to counter any cholesterol problems, and a high-quality multivitamin to fill in any possible nutritional gaps.
Don't use any fat burners on your carb-up day. For one, taking a fat burner would make you forget about food, thus negating the benefits of the carb-up day. Two, your receptors need a day off from the fatburner so they can "up-regulate."
Add psyllium fiber (Metamucil) to your shakes so that you get about 25 grams of fiber a day. (In lieu of the Metamucil, you could always use the unfortunately named Colon Cleanse product at night. It's carb-free and calorie-free, sort of like eating some emulsified plywood.)
Protein intake should be 1.4-1.8 grams per kilogram (0.6-0.8 grams per pound) of bodyweight. The rest of the calories should come from carbs (limits defined above) and fat. Don't try to make up the rest of your calorie requirements by eating more protein. The body will eventually deaminate the amino acids and make glucose so that you'll have no hope of reaching ketosis, even though this diet doesn't necessarily require you to enter complete ketosis in order for it to work.
If you're going to use a high-carb (or higher-carb) post-workout shake, it's best to drink it later in the day so that you don't feel groggy. In other words, work out later in the day, if possible.
Why use alpha lipoic acid? ALA is a potent, insulin-mimicking agent, among other things. If you're following this diet, you'll want to remove as much glucose as you safely can and as fast as you can from your bloodstream. If you've got too much glucose in your plasma, there's absolutely no chance that you'll enter—or be able to maintain—ketosis. To accomplish this, the muscles have to utilize glucose peripherally. Additionally, you want to minimize or stop amino acid-derived gluconeogenesis from occurring in the liver, as this can also throw you out of ketosis. A recent study found that ALA dramatically increased peripheral glucose utilization in diabetic patients. Administration of ALA to fasting nondiabetic or diabetic rats caused a rapid reduction in blood glucose with no effect on circulating insulin levels.
Even if you're not following a "near ketosis" diet, ALA can help you. Another recent study found that ALA is able to stimulate glucose uptake in insulin-resistant cells, and it may have therapeutic implications in increasing glucose availability in tissues such as skeletal muscle. Since glucose is the predominant fuel that powers your muscles, increasing the available glucose in muscle cells is akin to putting a bigger gas tank and intake manifold in your car—you can go a "whole lot farther" (or increase the number of repetitions that you're doing for a given exercise), and you can "increase the horsepower and torque" (or increase the amount of weight in a given lift).
