Keeping The Most MUSCLE And The Most SEX Into "Old Age."

[njmuscleguy]

This question is for Nelson as well as Eric from Pp:

I'm 2 months into a doctor-supervised HRT (100mg test cyp every week). We haven't discussed the use of an A I or H C G yet, we will see once my next bloodwork comes back in a few months.

I have just started an 8-week cycle. Then I plan on using the 4 weeks after that to regulate back down to HRT levels of test before getting bloodwork. Eric, is there any merit in using Sustain during these 4 weeks to help facilitate the letdown to HRT levels - will it affect my bloodwork after that?

Nelson, you advocate the use of H C G every 8 weeks as opposed to say 250iu, twice a week? Also, regarding the use of Unleashed or MyogenX, it is a good idea for me to run them in the 4 weeks I'm coming back down to HRT levels? Then after that, you suggest regular, indefinite use of those products? Or it is ok to cycle them?

I've also been recommended to consider DHEA & pregnenolone supplementation. Any thoughts on this? I will be better able to decide on these two after my next bloodwork results.

Thanks guys!

 

[Nelson Montana]

This question is for Nelson as well as Eric from Pp:


Nelson, you advocate the use of H C G every 8 weeks as opposed to say 250iu, twice a week? Also, regarding the use of Unleashed or MyogenX, it is a good idea for me to run them in the 4 weeks I'm coming back down to HRT levels? Then after that, you suggest regular, indefinite use of those products? Or it is ok to cycle them?

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UNLEASHED doesn't have to be cycled, but it can. It will raise free T while on and you'll go back to normal levels when off. MyogenX would be good to use following HC G when LH is higher since it will makes the most of it.

As for HC G, I think it works best when needed instead of habitually which in turn just makes it less effective in the longrun.

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I've also been recommended to consider DHEA & pregnenolone supplementation. Any thoughts on this? I will be better able to decide on these two after my next bloodwork results.

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Be careful with both since they both raise e. I'd suggest using them only on days when an anti e is used.


Thanks guys!

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[motodawg]

Good read I'm 50 and have been doing the 100 mg thing for a while now and it works, i also do the .25 mg Arimidex - anastrozole - mon wed fri and throw in HC G. thelion2005 put up a similar hrt regime a while back and thats where i started mine from. Yours is a little more detailed with somethings I will have to give a try like the unleashed. I feel that almost everyone who has juiced to any extent when younger will have to be on hrt.......JMO moto
Nelson i have a bottle of masteron-e that i have never used can it be of any benefit to HRT?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Good read I'm 50 and have been doing the 100 mg thing for a while now and it works, i also do the .25 mg Arimidex - anastrozole - mon wed fri and throw in HC G. thelion2005 put up a similar hrt regime a while back and thats where i started mine from. Yours is a little more detailed with somethings I will have to give a try like the unleashed. I feel that almost everyone who has juiced to any extent when younger will have to be on hrt.......JMO moto
Nelson i have a bottle of masteron-e that i have never used can it be of any benefit to HRT?

As part of a cycle, within HRT? I don't see why not. Mast has a lot of appeal, though it's hard on the hair and prostate and dosages required to build appreciable muscle are quite suppressive but it'll work for sure.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

alot of old folks should learn from this

 

[motiondo]

Great read NELSON.I'm 48.5 YRS og age, On my first cycle, and feeling so many benefits, I'm seriously considering asking my doctor what he thinks of putting me on...I'll check during my next check up this fall. But again, GREAT information.
I don't think I've experienced any of the symptoms of aging - really...a little low on the wood, but probably more natural for this age. I had been supping with Viagra, but I also have plenty of days when its not required. Taking 40 Mg of Test_e and Equip. (4-5 gr. of Arginine a day, and cycling 3 weeks on and off 25mgs proviron Ed) and I'm waking up feeling like I'm 18 again, and my woman can't keep up with me. (she 35) I'm thinking about secretly slipping her some Test....(Joking really) but I do have her considering 5mg of Var for a couple of months (she works out as well) just to bring her up to speed, hahahaha
But again, GREAT information.

 

[Singleton]

I am just getting older. I have never used but just to look at a weight would make me grow. 5'4 at 180 with some abs showing. Now closing in at 38 things are not so easy. Levels are at total T at 430 (230 - 827) and free I believe at 15 (8 - 25). Trying to decide if I should try a low dose cycle or just start HRT. Muscle mass is secondary. Long term health is primary.

I'm about there. My AM test levels are bet. 430-570 on three different tests. That is pretty bad. I wake up with a limp dick more and more frequently. It is very depressing because I used to wake up horny and have a lot of motivation.

I found a Doc but she was mostly bullshit. I'm still trying to find one (Bay Area, San Jose/San Francisco). I feel best on 250-350mg test/wk.

My prostate and PSA are fine. LDL is a little low (~40).

 

[Singleton]

100mgs of T a week:

That seems a little low for me personally.

The other difference with "on" vs "off" is the fluxuating hormone levels througout the day. The body's natural test production is a big spike in the AM. BUt being on test enth, you wouldn't have the natural hormone curve. I can tell the difference in how I feel, even on a low dose. It just feels like I'm on when I lie down to sleep. I like the "normal" curve, but higher.

Suspension shots ED would seem to more closely mimic the body's own natural curve. What are your thoughts on this?

Also, how can I get a script for HRT? A blood level of 430 the doc said was perfectly normal. Mostly I just want to get human grade gear and stay on.

 

[Max Expansion]

nelson as you are now on trt anyway, do you not see any benefit in doing a large dose of test every week?

Do you really feel that it is the case that 100mg is adequate, and that only a MAJOR increase to Gear levels of test makes a difference:

ie, either 100mg or 500mg of test per week- nothing in between is worthwhile?

 

[ALIN]

Not old yet[just turned 35]but that answers some questions I've had.

good info to think about.