Just started this:

[Jack steel]

1-?? Test e 200mg x2 EW
1-9 tren e 150mg x2 EW
1-5 winstrol 50mg Ed (have liquidex incase)
1-10 melanotan 2 for prolactin ( about to spring for liquid caber) 'cause mt2 has blown so far.
Liver Armor (ctd labs)
1 -2 tbsp extra virgin olive oil Ed
1-6 n2slin 1 cap before each meal
1-8 ghrp-6

Will cruise for a couple months with test only.

the week of last pin start HCG 500 iu's x2 a week.
2 weeks post final pin start PCT:
- DAA
-ostarine (maybe)
-mucuna pruriens
-phytosetms-347
-Bridge
-liquidex


Never used hcg before and looking forward to it. I'm excited to see how this cycle goes and will try to keep it logged. All comments and critiques welcome

 

[Jack steel]

For the record I've never been big on planning out and tracking my workouts so needless to say that's something I need to work on and I intend to start with this cycle. This is the most AAS my body has seen in about 5 years and I respond very well to low doses. Also I'm not sure if I ever posted this before but my goal weight is around 205 keeping my current bf which is around 7-8% ish says my "high-tech" scale. I'll repost my AAS experience incase no one has seen in before. My first was 5 years ago test/tren/EQ/mast/ and like 9days of winny at a tiny dose. I can't remember the doses of the other stuff. Since then I've done a sust/EQ cycle, test/EQ, EQ by itself for a around 11 months... I think that's it. So this should be my 5th cycle.
PS. My current avi was taken today, 3 days into cycle.

 

[bigbassturd]

In, looks interesting.

But one question, who told you MT2 was for prolactin bro?

 

[Jack steel]

In, looks interesting.

But one question, who told you MT2 was for prolactin bro?

I can try to find it but I've read that it was dopaminergic and therefore has a prolactin inhibiting effect. This could be wrong since no one has heard of it but couldn't this be why it has such a strong effect on libido? Ok we'll I looked and there were no test done to prove it but I is proven that dopamine inhibits prolactin, so I may have jumped to this conclusion on my own. However, doesn't mean it doesn't really do so, right? Either way it kind blows and feeling that way is hell. Woot says it'll go away but loading that stuff makes me sick as a dog and dead tired.

 

[joeblow12345]

1-?? Test e 200mg x2 EW
1-9 tren e 150mg x2 EW
1-5 winstrol 50mg Ed (have liquidex incase)
1-10 melanotan 2 for prolactin ( about to spring for liquid caber) 'cause mt2 has blown so far.
Liver Armor
1 -2 tbsp extra virgin olive oil Ed
1-6 n2slin 1 cap before each meal
1-8 ghrp-6

Will cruise for a couple months with test after, then worry about pct. will probably try phytoserms-347 and bridge with liquidex and an hcg blast starting about 1 week before last pin?? Never used hcg before and looking forward to it. I'm excited to see how this cycle goes and will try to keep it logged. All comments and critiques welcome

I would definitely get some caber as once that tren kicks in youll wish you had it. With your phyto pct Id add some forma, Daa, postcycle, and unleashed.

NTBM REP

 

[Jack steel]

I would definitely get some caber as once that tren kicks in youll wish you had it. With your phyto pct Id add some forma, Daa, postcycle, and unleashed.

NTBM REP

Thanks for the reply joe. I'm ordering caber this week and Yes I'll be adding daa more than likely and probably ostarine. For me that's more than enough. I'd like to try post cycle and unleashed eventually though. Oh ya and mucuna pruriens (standard or better l-dopa). FYI new corrections made to cycle above*

 

[stevesmi]

if you want to peak for photo's or a comp or whatever.. run the winny on the backend instead. otherwise i suppose it doesn't matter.

hcg as a kickstart to pct.. run 1000iu's in 5 separate shots every 4 days.. that will be your entire 5Kiu blast. you should also consider throwing in some HMG as well.. they really work well together.. just 1 or 2 hits of it is enough. make sure your prolactin is covered. might want to run a blood test during that to see if that is working.. keep prolactin on the low end of the range or below when using tren. i love caber because it covers prolactin + aids sleep on tren. otherwise chemical needs has prami if you get into a pinch and need something fast. there is a sale right now if you want to pick some up to have on hand

 

[Nelson Montana]

Don't love it. Three supps you MUST have is N2 GUArd while on and UNLEASHED and protein factory POST_CYCLE once off. I wouldn't depend so much on peptides. 9 weeks of tren is a lot. I wouldn't use ostarain for PCT since it will suppress. A couple of shots of HCG to kick start the PCt is recommended as well.

 

[kc17]

The only think I don't get is why are you running pct if you plan to cruise for a few months ????

 

[stevesmi]

The only think I don't get is why are you running pct if you plan to cruise for a few months ????

i took it as he wants to cruise then PCT.

 

[stevesmi]

Don't love it. Three supps you MUST have is N2 GUArd while on and UNLEASHED and protein factory POST_CYCLE once off. I wouldn't depend so much on peptides. 9 weeks of tren is a lot. I wouldn't use ostarain for PCT since it will suppress. A couple of shots of HCG to kick start the PCt is recommended as well.

he is experienced with tren bro.. i think with E you gotta run it 8-10 weeks.. I usually run it 9-10 weeks myself. with ace i will go 6-7 weeks. the fun with tren starts after a few weeks..

i agree he needs n2guard with tren or he will feel like death around week 5 when things get nasty, and especially stacking with winny good lord that will not be fun on his hair, i would get some n2shampoo as well.. its sold out now i know cause i tried to get it but i would never run winny without it again

this is a mean cycle cause i ran something close to it last go around but jack can handle it with his experience. good luck man, be sure to post after pics

 

[Jack steel]

i took it as he wants to cruise then PCT.

Yes ^^^ cruise indefinitely probably til month 5. Hcg is in there and caber on the way. I won't be depending on mt2 for prolactin anymore. I trust y'all on every bit of advice but as far as pct I really have it on overkill the way it is. Don't ask me why, I just recover easy. I probably will throw unleashed into pct as well because I lack an SHBG blocker in my pct.
I've been on ghrp-6 for a couple months now so that's the only reason I have it in the cycle. I just have a lot. Thanks Steve, Nelson and everyone so far for the replies!

 

[Jack steel]

Don't love it. Three supps you MUST have is N2 GUArd while on and UNLEASHED and protein factory POST_CYCLE once off. I wouldn't depend so much on peptides. 9 weeks of tren is a lot. I wouldn't use ostarain for PCT since it will suppress. A couple of shots of HCG to kick start the PCt is recommended as well.

Thanks Nelson! That pct is my staple really (1st w/ bridge and phytoserms) and it has worked wonders for me in the past. I know you know your shit so I don't want to sound like an ass, but I've never read a single thig about ostarine suppressing. I've used it for 5 months post cycle once so far and my nuts couldn't have been bigger and fuller. You sure you're not confusing it with s4? Also, I just bought a giant bottle of liver armor and probably won't be buying another liver supp, but why is there such a difference between that and n2gaurd?

 

[Jack steel]

Ok so this is day four of my cycle and I've decided to make it my last day of winny and save it for after my tren is gone or maybe even later in the cycle. So far I e had great pumps and good strength increase most likely from the winny. I think the only reason it isn't great strength is because of the lethargy from mt2. I think I may continue the winstrol at 40 mg ed when i start again to escape sides, plus like I said before I respond well to lower doses. Or maybe I won't. Either way, my actual first tren shot was only 100mg and I'm thinking that may be plenty for twice a week. I ordered my test late so it will be here tomorrow and I'll do my next tren dose with it. I'd love to hear everyone's opininion on doing tren @100x2ew. Enough? So far I feel fine over all but not as good as with test obviously. I'm doing two muscle groups a day:

Sunday-Back/bis
Mon-Chest/tris
Tues-Legs
Wed-Shoulders/calves
Thurs-Sat - Work and rest

I'm eating mostly chicken steak and tuna for protein and whey of course. Olive oil, Cottage cheese, peanut butter, tons of Orowheat bread mmm, kashi cereal, mixed fruit, 2-3 gallons of 2% milk a week, and of course my beloved hungry-man dinners .... And nabisco fig newton thins, which is a deliciously healthy snack. Anywho... That's a little of what I'm going to be doing this winter. I think I'll go heavy on the weights for about eight weeks and then move to medium weight/high reps once I'm done with the tren. I'll do my very best to keep updating every day unless technology fails me.

Oh... Ya, and after considering responses so far, I may save some tren and not run it for so long. We'll see how it goes. Would be weeks 1-8 tren 100mgx2ew. I know some may be thinking I should e figured his before I started the cycle but honestly I'm never content and I've always fucked with my cycles as I'm extremely indecisive... So there's no proper waiting period lol.

 

[Jack steel]

I did first shot of test this morning with 2nd dose of tren. I stuck with 100mg tren and went with 250 test after all. I'm feeling better already . I think I will stick with this. I did shoulders, calves and abs today, but half assed abs because I had to shit lol. I got a good pump and strength was great. I'll post more later.

 

[Jack steel]

Well, the new opinion based on the scale at the gym is saying I'm 12% bf. which could be correct :/. My scale says closer to 8. Any opinions based on pics I've posted? Thanks for the replies.

@ the gym now hitting back for a second time this week. It needs it....

I walked uphill for about 5 mins for a warm up...then

-5x 10-12 dumbbell bent over rows fairly heavy for me (80lb dumbells)
-That machine that is like bent over rows but in a sitting position? lol that thing with: 115x2 each arm,
90x1 each arm
- supposed to be my day off so I didn't want to do too much so I finished with strict wide grip pull-ups until failure.

Ps. Wtf? I heard about MT2 giving rats new really dark freckles everywhere and they weren't fuckin around. My rat has too many new freckles to count. Not a horrible thing but I hope it doesn't keep this up.

 

[Jack steel]

Is anyone even following this?