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Just started cycle! Couple questions?

Focusedon2012

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I just started a cycle this week of test C. Just took my third injection today. I'm 5'10 175 I'm lean & cut. Just wanted to make sure I was wasting gear. I'm using 1ml 25g 5/8 for my delts, is this to small.? I have a low body fat.. Are there any signs I'll see if it's to small & I'm wasting gear? Also what Size Gage etc would u say I should use.. I was told if I think it's to short go to 23g 1inch? But I don't want to over think it if 25g 5/8 is sufficient. Any and all help would be appreciated.!
 
23G to 25G 1 & 1/2 inch is preferred, if you need a shorter one remove the protective plastic cover cut an inch off of the tip ,replace...There you now have a 1 inch pin with a safety stop.
 
also to keep the needle sharp ,draw what you need with a 1 inch 18G
 
So you think the 25g 5/8 is to short and I should move to 23g 1inch? I'm not getting any leakage or blood with the 25g 5/8 is there anything I'd see or feel if I was hitting the muscle?
 
Or see or feel if I wasn't hitting the muscle? I just to see the gains and want to catch early if I'm not using correct size.. Again I'm only on my 3rd injection so pretty early still.. Lastly I thought about stacking w tren later in the cycle.. My goal is to hit 190. What's your opinion?
 
So you think the 25g 5/8 is to short and I should move to 23g 1inch? I'm not getting any leakage or blood with the 25g 5/8 is there anything I'd see or feel if I was hitting the muscle?

I'm lean all over and thats what i use,dosent matter if there is no leakage or blood you still could be shooting some into bodyfat.
 
Man... i use 25g 1in in quads i have slight fat on the legs and dont worry, I never missed the quad... you feel the needle passing the skin, then slightly lower you feel it piercing the muscle. If you see your delt muscles as you are lean, you are not missing the muscle with 5/8in dont worry!!! I dont think having blood coming out of the new hole you made has anything to do with if you missed the muscle or not.... Sometimes it pissed like hell and times it did not at all.
 
Or see or feel if I wasn't hitting the muscle? I just to see the gains and want to catch early if I'm not using correct size.. Again I'm only on my 3rd injection so pretty early still.. Lastly I thought about stacking w tren later in the cycle.. My goal is to hit 190. What's your opinion?

Tren is for experienced cycles, plus it will kill your libido for a long time and is a bitch to recover from.
 
Ok so no tren & just stick with the test.. A. Do u think with eating right running 2-3 btls of test C I'll see some size or be able to hit my goal of 15lbs? Also the 25g 5/8 should be ok for the delts?
 
Ok so no tren & just stick with the test.. A. Do u think with eating right running 2-3 btls of test C I'll see some size or be able to hit my goal of 15lbs? Also the 25g 5/8 should be ok for the delts?

Delts are my favorite spot, sure that will work, How much test you running a week?
 
Test C 200 mg/ml started saturday. So been shooting every other day. So end up 3-4 wk.. 1ml each

Why not shoot 200mg mon and another 200 thurs its a long ester so you don't have to pin as often 400mg to 600mgs is plenty if your diet is tuned in.
 
Test C 200 mg/ml started saturday. So been shooting every other day. So end up 3-4 wk.. 1ml each

I hope you don't mean the cycle is ending 3-4 weeks, Test Cypionate is just starting to work around week 5 so its preferred to run it up to 10 weeks.
 
No I'm running 2-3 btls. If I shoot twice a week it'll be 10 weeks.. But I wanted to shoot every other day which would be 3-4 times per week.. For 10 weeks.. What do u think?
 
So do you suggest shooting twice a week for 10 weeks or 4 times a week m,w,f,su for 10 weeks? Would there big a big difference I ran 4 times a week rather than twice for 10 weeks? I want the most gains, so what's your opinion on it? Also your opinion on the "gains" outcome..?
 
Shoot twice a week its a long ester more frequent injections are pointless with this compound


Pain is temporary, glory is forever!
 
Yep! twice a week is not going to change anything with more injects.
 
You will want an anti estrogen maybe arimodex, a lot of people on here talk about hcgenerate but i thinks its currently out of stock, unleashed and post cycle combo are highly spoken of, i live in australia so products over here are different


Pain is temporary, glory is forever!
 
PCT should of been planned out and sitting next to your vials before even starting your cycle. Just in case something comes up. You never know.

What if something came up and you HAD to stop your cycle next week? Now your F-ed because you had poor planning. Just a heads up for next time.
 
Test cyp can be shot once a week and stable test levels maintained. Even in TRT there is a debate between 200mg every two weeks vs 100 mg once a week... although the weekly injection guys do seem to have more stable mood, sex drive etc. Shooting such a long ester twice or more a week has zero benefits.

How long is your cycle? I've never been a fan of short cycles, I don't think the gains are as pronounced or as keepable as running 12+ week cycles at more moderate doses. I've done things like 350 mg of prop/175 mg of tren/200 mg of eq a week in the past for 20 weeks and made rather large gains that didn't go away on my PCT.
 
PCT should of been planned out and sitting next to your vials before even starting your cycle. Just in case something comes up. You never know.

What if something came up and you HAD to stop your cycle next week? Now your F-ed because you had poor planning. Just a heads up for next time.

You know i preach and preach ,i can't stress this enought
 
You know i preach and preach ,i can't stress this enought

LOL. You know...what else can we do brother? please tell me and I will follow.....

I wanna help, but people dont even know the BASICS before wanting to run tren and so forth...

I just dont know what else we can do. I would love to see this never happen again...but it will

there is sticky's, but people dont read em obviously....I just dont know sometimes....sigh...
 
Test cyp can be shot once a week and stable test levels maintained. Even in TRT there is a debate between 200mg every two weeks vs 100 mg once a week... although the weekly injection guys do seem to have more stable mood, sex drive etc. Shooting such a long ester twice or more a week has zero benefits.

How long is your cycle? I've never been a fan of short cycles, I don't think the gains are as pronounced or as keepable as running 12+ week cycles at more moderate doses. I've done things like 350 mg of prop/175 mg of tren/200 mg of eq a week in the past for 20 weeks and made rather large gains that didn't go away on my PCT.


Bold: I totally agree, we had this argument in two different threads the past couple of weeks. I made the same exact argument..Wish you were here.
 
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