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Just redesigned my business website. Opinons?
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Pink Space Biscuit
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Need at least a soft return at the bottom I think, it's harder to read when text is touching the bottom of the browser. Other than that it looks good.
Pink Space Biscuit
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Not bad prices either, I pay $14.99 a month for 400 MB and 25 gigs of transfer.
Dean Kuntz
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Very nice looking page, but maybe the first page should fit into one screen. Just my thought.
I would experiment with different fonts. Too many words for the average reader - you may want to use a similar font/color as the left column for the right to tie it together. And to reduce the words, a larger font with a summary, then detailed explanations later, AFTER they click.
The key is to draw the user into the site, tease them first to get them clicking on stuff.
Otherwise it looks very professional.
The key is to draw the user into the site, tease them first to get them clicking on stuff.
Otherwise it looks very professional.
HappyScrappy
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the only think I'd say is that you are changing the cursor to the help icon instead of the hand - which is non-standard for websites. it you were making a web app, then that is appropriate, but in this case is likely to confuse some.
the nature boy
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1r0nSl4ve said:
I sort of agree. Reduce words. If you've seen any materials on effective presentation making, you keep it simple at first, then load up the info when they navigate further within the site.
You should consider being more descriptive.
Talk about how your services directly increase profitability, and is more than just a pretty picture. You make vague references to what you guys do - but a potential client should not have to figure it out.
In choosing you,a client makes a decision. The best decisions are informed decisions. The more info you give a potential client, the more likely they will choose you.
Make the info easy, instead of making someone point and click around the site.
That "too many words" criticism is silly. This is not designed for the average reader, it is designed for a narrow market of people who will use your service. Tell them what you can upfront. As far as fonts - who gives a shit? be informative, not pretty. Substance beats style, every day.
Thanks and that will be $275.00...or you could give me some equity.
Talk about how your services directly increase profitability, and is more than just a pretty picture. You make vague references to what you guys do - but a potential client should not have to figure it out.
In choosing you,a client makes a decision. The best decisions are informed decisions. The more info you give a potential client, the more likely they will choose you.
Make the info easy, instead of making someone point and click around the site.
That "too many words" criticism is silly. This is not designed for the average reader, it is designed for a narrow market of people who will use your service. Tell them what you can upfront. As far as fonts - who gives a shit? be informative, not pretty. Substance beats style, every day.
Thanks and that will be $275.00...or you could give me some equity.
strongchick
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MattTheSkywalker said:
I dunno. look at www.hp.com - great brevity.
and talk about narrow purpose - look at google.com.
SC
Comparing his site to HP is so irrelevant. HP is a multibillion dollar entity which offers dozens of services and needs no introduction.
HP deals is huge transactions with clients who have dozens of experts ready to interpret data. Lincoln's situation is not analogous. He is looking for clients that are seeking an advantge for a smaller business, at least compared to HP.
I'll only charge you $137.50, since you;re a tech person I have pity on you.
Comparing his site to HP is so irrelevant. HP is a multibillion dollar entity which offers dozens of services and needs no introduction.
HP deals is huge transactions with clients who have dozens of experts ready to interpret data. Lincoln's situation is not analogous. He is looking for clients that are seeking an advantge for a smaller business, at least compared to HP.
I'll only charge you $137.50, since you;re a tech person I have pity on you.
MuSuLPhReAk
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Clean and professional looking but I don't like the cursor. Revert back to normal cursor or do something fancy on the onmousevover event of the link or something along those lines.
Besides that...gets my thumbs up
Besides that...gets my thumbs up
strongchick
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MattTheSkywalker said:SC
Comparing his site to HP is so irrelevant. HP is a multibillion dollar entity which offers dozens of services and needs no introduction.
HP deals is huge transactions with clients who have dozens of experts ready to interpret data. Lincoln's situation is not analogous. He is looking for clients that are seeking an advantge for a smaller business, at least compared to HP.
I'll only charge you $137.50, since you;re a tech person I have pity on you.
I'm a programmer, not an interface designer. I get bitching all the time for sites that are too busy. The MBA's at every company I've worked for trims the fat way down. I guess I've been brainwashed to their thinking.
lincoln
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strongchick said:
Couldn't disagree more. I am not a retailer and I only offer services to he people who seek them out.
People that come to my site ARE looking for lots of text. Thanks Matt, I agree with your observations. The cursor has been changed back. And we are adding much more to the product descriptions.
Your check is in the mail!
str0ngch1ck
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lincoln said:
whatever. This is a site I built. The brevity and cleanliness is what I'm referring to that the "MBA's" want. The dotcom school of marketing seems to believe clean and less wordy is in vogue.
Note that further details on particular items have links and popups. Not good for everyone, but it seems to work here.
http://www.go2call.com
by the way, I got locked out of my account when I changed the email address in my profile. I suppose George will get to fixing it soon.
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str0ngch1ck
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velvett said:
velvett -
i am the real strongchick - i don't mean to cause trouble - i'm at work, that's why it is a different IP address.
My grammar sucks when I write quick, like when I'm at work, and thanks for the compliment!
I won't use this login anymore though -
I'm glad you are looking out for us. Maybe you can get George to fix my real account
str0ngch1ck said:
I'm glad you are looking out for us. Maybe you can get George to fix my real account
It's that question everything nature of mine.
I'm sorry and you're welcome.
I'll ask around for you and keep checking the first email account you used to sign up there should be a link back in it.
Island Son
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very professional look.lincoln said:
comments: (btw i'm using IE 5.5, 1280x1024 screen)
* link the top right graphic back to the home page on all pages, it's almost a navigation standard now
* portfolio; keep it at 3, add a link to "more" which lists all 5. Reducing to 3 will keep the left & right more balanced
* never link to a blank page. Either add a very short "realtymanager" blurb to the web design section, or put more information about RM on the page (answer the question "why would i as a customer want this"). A link is a promise of more information, don't break your promises.
lincoln said:
I like it.
Easy to read and you offer examples of your work.
You should look into contacting and redesigning www.hreo.com's sites they how shall I say - they SUCK ASS.
john937
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If the first thing I see on the web site is "INNOVATION"
then I expect to see something innovative.
The current look is clean, but not very innovative.
1. Put something at the top that introduces the site as a whole.
Your web address made me believe I was going to a site for real estate brokers and interior designers.
I have no idea from your web address that I'm going to a site to contact web designers focusing on real estate clients.
And I had to infer the truth from reading all the individual paragraphs on the page. Your site should first "Tell me who you are" at the top in the first glance.
2. Too much white space between the banner and the first item.
3. No wallpaper? Pure white background? Boring, and not very "innovative".
4. Use multiple fonts to direct the eye movement.
Big fonts for introductive text, smaller fonts for details.
(If you're in the business of designing web sites, I shouldn't have to say stuff like this, it should be a given.)
then I expect to see something innovative.
The current look is clean, but not very innovative.
1. Put something at the top that introduces the site as a whole.
Your web address made me believe I was going to a site for real estate brokers and interior designers.
I have no idea from your web address that I'm going to a site to contact web designers focusing on real estate clients.
And I had to infer the truth from reading all the individual paragraphs on the page. Your site should first "Tell me who you are" at the top in the first glance.
2. Too much white space between the banner and the first item.
3. No wallpaper? Pure white background? Boring, and not very "innovative".
4. Use multiple fonts to direct the eye movement.
Big fonts for introductive text, smaller fonts for details.
(If you're in the business of designing web sites, I shouldn't have to say stuff like this, it should be a given.)
john937
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Oops. You do have an intro paragraph.
But because it's so separated from the banner
and also because it's in the same format and font as the rest of the page, I completely blew past it.
Winute a minute. On the left you list Portfolio, and everybody listed is a real estate company,
but on the right you have a bunch of services that are all based on web design ...with a helpfull tool - a mortage calculator(?!)...
just what IS this site supposed to be ?
Who is supposed to be reading this site?
A realtor? A home buyer? The manager of a Realty company in need of web services?
But because it's so separated from the banner
and also because it's in the same format and font as the rest of the page, I completely blew past it.
Winute a minute. On the left you list Portfolio, and everybody listed is a real estate company,
but on the right you have a bunch of services that are all based on web design ...with a helpfull tool - a mortage calculator(?!)...
just what IS this site supposed to be ?
Who is supposed to be reading this site?
A realtor? A home buyer? The manager of a Realty company in need of web services?
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Island Son
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Jakob Nielsen would cringejohn937 said:
but let's not start THAT all over again
HappyScrappy
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Island Son said:
Jakob Nielsen would cringe
although you must admit that it is hard not to cringe when looking at Jakob Nielsen.
he's a hideous beast of a man.
and I find his designs ugly as sin - but he raises good points.
it seems that he has found a niche in that he talks a lot and people will listen, reguardless of whether he is actually right all the time
Lincoln,
When all is said and done, the real issue is content.
A lot of IT guys make themselves nuts (and unemployed, and their companies fail) by going apeshit over style and tech shit.
The bottom line is, any idiot can make a web page. People don't like to click links and hope to find what they want. They like to see it up front, readily accessible..
When all is said and done, the real issue is content.
A lot of IT guys make themselves nuts (and unemployed, and their companies fail) by going apeshit over style and tech shit.
The bottom line is, any idiot can make a web page. People don't like to click links and hope to find what they want. They like to see it up front, readily accessible..
lincoln
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MattTheSkywalker said:
I think you are right. This is actually a spin off of our core development business. http://pawcomputers.com
We are in our third year and so far things have picked up at an incredible rate. I just hired 2 more guys and looking for a third.
Thanks for your help!
strongchick
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lincoln said:
Design is subjective. It is a pain in the ass. Everyone has their own idea of good design, and while I enjoy debate, this is one area that one could go round and round about.
I make more money adding functionality rather than design, because if I had to work with guys like
matttheskywalker,
I would simply throw my hands up and walk away.
Most successful sites rely on content, however, panache and simplicity is what folks look for on the web site of a webhost/design service.
You could still impress with no additional embellishments. You have a good eye for layout, which is the most difficult part of web design.
I'll stick to building credit card processing 'algorithms', thank you very much. I'd rather haggle with bank software nerds over design nerds, any day!
Cheers, and the best to you.
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