Just out of curiosity what are everyones thoughts on God and a higher power here.

[wootoom]

Honestly, I believe we are in hell. There is no way stuff like Cancer, death at a young age, mental illnesses etc....this would not happen in a normal life. I don't think this should happen...school shootings...I think that the afterlife (if there is one) will be full of great events and not this shit the world is going through right now.

About Jesus, I believe in him simply because I feel we have to believe in something and Jesus for me is a great person to believe in.

 

[needtogetaas]

I just wanted to share this with all of you, brought this home to my husband on a day he had few personal things going on and it really turned his thoughts around when I read it out loud to him...

People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered...
Forgive them anyway.

If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives...
Be kind anyway

If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies...
Succeed anyway

If you are honest and sincere people may deceive you...
Be honest & sincere anyway

What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight...
Create anyway

If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous...
Be happy anyway

The good you do today, will ofter be forgotten...
Do good anyway

Give the best you have, and it will never be enough...
Give your best anyway

In the final analysis, it is between you and God...
It was never between you and them anyway!

-Mother Teresa

Just wanted to share...it helped him get through some things today.

Thank you for sharing this and for the record its good to have you here.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Why cant evolution and a higher power/meaning coexists my friend? I my self do not disagree with evolution however I do not believe that any prof of it disproves anything else in my heart. Would you not agree?

True. But the religions do not acknowledge evolution. (Because they didn't know about it. Of course if "god" is all knowing he would have mentioned it. Whatever).

I do believe there is another dimension beyond our own that we can't comprehend. I guess my point is -- what good is god? What does he do? If he answered prayers no planes would ever crash. He seems pretty unengaged.

Anyone ever see the Star Trek where they meet aApollo? lol Brilliant.

 

[needtogetaas]

I am a Christian and a strong believer. My life is a testimony to the grace of god. I go out of my way to make sure and NEVER be judgemental, and I'm very rarely 'preachy'. If someone asks ill share, otherwise I respect them enough not to try and push my beliefs on them. I try to live my life with love and selflessness. Many times I fail at this as I am by no means perfect.
I find many people do more harm then good with their approach to sharing their faith with others. While im sure most of them mean well, it really pushes most people away and hurts Christianity as a whole. Serve others with love in your heart - that is what Jesus did

As I type this I am running tad late. Gotta grab my guitar and get going. I'm a worship leader at our church. For those of you who don't know, some churches have become very progressive with their modern music and media. Out band is more like a rock band. I have a lot of fun in church.

I have always done well , been at my best, been the most happy with my life and my self when I have lived like this. Its not a easy life but its what I love.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Love and morality have nothing to do with religion or the belief in Jesus. If that's what works for you, then that's great. If you want to believe Leprechauns want you to be nice and you're nice because of it, that's terrific too. Problem is, people use the almighty to justify whatever they want. And therein lies the problem.

 

[needtogetaas]

A topic just asking for antagonism because it's such a fundemental belief.

But okay, I'll play.

I went to catholic school and by age 9 I could not understand why I had to have faith in the words of a primitive civilization from 2000 years ago.

I also will never understand how african americans can be devout christians when that is the belief of their captures. I just don't get it.

I aslo don't get when people say PROVE there is no god. Well, you cannot disprove what does not exist. I cannot PROVE that there are no unicorns. It's a flawed line of thinking. Proof is in the claim.

Bottom line -- give me some evidence. There isn't one shred of evidence that god exists or does anything. If that doesn't matter , no amount of logic or reasoning will change your mind.

I don't have the answers. No one does. Claiming so doesn't make it so. Everything else is a lie. Or delusion.

"God Particle" Found? "Historic Milestone" From Higgs Boson Hunters

I think there is a lot in this world we can not prove. A lot of things in this world we can not disprove also. No you do not have to believe in anything to be a good person. I do often wounder why that in any conversation about a higher power . Some one who strongly does not Believe always asks this question?
I think good people are all around.

I see good things and good people all around me. I do not think some one has to believe in a higher power at all for them to have good inside them. However for me I will attribute this to what I believe and have faith it comes from...

Nelson Is that OK with you? Or is it very necessary to you that I give you the credit? Keeping in mind I love ya and think your awesome regardless

 

[needtogetaas]

See...here we go.

You say the universe couldn't be created out of nothing but what created the creator? There is no beginning from which to gauge, so it's a pointless point.

As for comparing faith to radio waves, wind and gravity -- they are not faith based my friend. They are scientifically proven laws.

Sorry guys, you can all believe in whatever you want but this is my problem with some religious people. They think they have patent on virtue.

Meanwhile, my son was raised atheist and he's one of the most loving, giving, kindest people you'll ever meet. Meanwhile Osama Bin Ladin was VERY religious. So don't try and shove that shit down my throat and hide behind the rightiousness of it all. I find it offensive.

Nelson my good friend I do not think anyone here has directed anything at you at all? Aside from me my self asking you a question. No one shoved anything at you ether that I think we can all see and agree on.

I think we all love our selves some Nelson!!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

I am devout Nichiren Buddhist. We believe that life, the energy within everything, is what christians and others refer to as god. In our payer, which consists of chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, we are not looking outside ourselves for answers or assistance, rather we are determining to bring the infinite potential of the universe out of ourselves. We also believe that prayers without action aren't even prayers, so needless to say, we get busy.

"The mighty sword of the Lotus Sutra must be wielded by one courageous in faith. Then one will be as strong as a demon armed with an iron staff."

This sounds very interesting to me. Maybe I will devote some time to looking into it. If you have anything I can start with please share.

 

[noodles1010]

I believe in god and Jesus Christ. My faith has no doubt "faded" over the years due to doubt and anger of people lost, people who's life's we're cut short, people who didn't deserve the bad hand they were delt. Everyday I try to find my way back. It's hard for me being so scorned. One day I know I will sit in church and hopefully sort my issues out with my faith.
All in all, do I believe, YES, do I love Jesus, YES, is my faith as strong as it should be for a young man raised a devoted catholic, no def not, but like I said, me and god will sort that out one day when I am ready.
We all have our demons.

 

[Headholio]

"God Particle" Found? "Historic Milestone" From Higgs Boson Hunters

I love reading about physics. Physicists know, now more than ever, that the universe is simply not they way we have always perceived it. Time is not constant, and empty space has a shape. There are quantum phenomena that we simply can not explain, and go against common sense.
Physicists of the past always believed in concrete rules of matter and energy, but more and more, the concept of consciousness is discussed, not by philosophers, but by physicists.

It seems that consciousness is part of the stuff that the universe is made from.
That is an incredibly exciting concept to me, and is demonstrable in the physics lab.
The results of simple experiments change depending on whether we look or don't look at them. Its mind blowing.

There is so much we don't understand. God may be a part of the ultimate truth, but even if there is a God, the understanding of what that means is currently beyond our grasp (IMO).

It is tempting to use God to explain things we don't understand. We used to say the sun came up in the morning because God did it. Now we have non-miraculous explanations for so many things that have been attributed to God.

For me, I just say I don't know. Humanity has not figured out the truth. I am comfortable with not knowing.