Just curious

[bowly]

I would like to believe that whoever created various low androgenic aas(eq/var/deca/primo/tbol etc) to have a better product, that gives and option of reduced sides given by test knew that it would eventually lack somewhere in the androgenic area(libido/lethargy etc)..
So were these products ever meant to be used standalone or they were always meant to be clubbed with a low dose of test to avoid total dependency on test...
Or they were meant to be used only for a short cycle like 4/6 weeks as gains start plateauing (for eg tbol)
or as long cycles of any of these other aas makes the negatives prominent..(for eg deca)
just curious

 

[wolfman87]

well the oral forms are obviously meant to be used for a shorter time frame with more frequent doses. i've never experienced any negative sexual side effects from tbol while taking it alone, i don't believe primo or eq to either, but i may be wrong idk.

 

[bowly]

well the oral forms are obviously meant to be used for a shorter time frame with more frequent doses. i've never experienced any negative sexual side effects from tbol while taking it alone, i don't believe primo or eq to either, but i may be wrong idk.

all these compounds that prevent the sides, that people fear of ,actually must be taken in larger doses for prolonged period to see decent gains..for eg eq to be run for min 12/14 weeks..the orals lose the effective ness after few weeks and injectibles need to be run at higher doses for prolonged periods..did you ever take eq or primo standalone for 12/14 weeks and not see sides like lethargy and loss of libido

 

[bowly]

bu mp

 

[Gawd]

Dunno about all them. But medically isn't var suppose to be taken at like 2.5mg?
I think the issue is for bodybuilding purposes we mega dose these compounds. That's just my unprofessional opinion though.

 

[Nelson Montana]

EQ was designed for short cycles -- around the racetrack at Belmont.

 

[bowly]

EQ was designed for short cycles -- around the racetrack at Belmont.

would it still yield results or like evryone feels that 12-14 weeks minimum or its pointless using eq..for the androgenic quotient which is missing in eq would it still need low dose test to be more effective for a short cycle..