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Just a reminder, dont eat whole eggs

yomama

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For all who still dont know, a whole egg contains 240mg of cholesterol. It's too late for me, but maybe not for the rest.
 
I read a recent article that claims eating the whole egg had no bearing on your cholesterol. I think it was in last months musle& fitness.
 
eggs have cholesterol, but your dietary cholesterol intake has absolutely nothing to do with your blood cholesterol numbers.
 
There is some correlation between dietary and serum cholesterol levels, but unless you have very high cholesterol already, it will not do you any harm, but will bring a lot of good.
 
Quite true, blood levels of cholesterol are due to diet, but mostly genetics. For instance, my family has low cholesterol levels naturally. My father is 52 and his level is about 120 total, he eats whole eggs and steaks, etc. several times a week. When I used to drink a gallon of whole milk a day, a dozen whole eggs, and was on 50mg/day dbol( 17aa's kill your lipid profile), mine still never went above 200 and was down to 130 within 3 weeks of stopping. If you already have high cholesterol, then yes eggs are bad, otherwise, they contain protein and healthy fats, and are pretty good for you.
 
I dont go over 2-3 whole eggs a day. The rest is whites. I think that you will be fine as long as you dont over do it. 12 whole eggs a day may not be the greatest idea. Its too bad, cause there is lots of protien in the yolk as well.
 
I just try to eat 5 or 6 eggwhites in the morning and wash them down a protien shake made with half and half. What does'nt kill you,makes you stronger.
 
HGH MAN said:
I just try to eat 5 or 6 eggwhites in the morning and wash them down a protien shake made with half and half. What does'nt kill you,makes you stronger.

I eat egg-beats (or the generic kind at Costco) No cholesterol, no fat - just egg protein - pour it into the pan and 'instant eggs'!! Taste great too...
 
Eat those whole eggs! The cholesterol made by your body is due in part by what you eat...but not from eggs. Insulin is a major contributor to destroying the lining of the arteries and cholesterol is there to heal them. What causes a rise in insulin....sugars and high GI carbs! Eat natural foods and you can't go wrong!
 
ripper2 said:
eggs have cholesterol, but your dietary cholesterol intake has absolutely nothing to do with your blood cholesterol numbers.
80% chol your body makes, the rest you get from food. Try eating 10whole eggs a day for 2-3 months, and do this 3 times per year and then see if your cholesterol level will go up. Mine did. Try it and see.
 
Why does the FDA say avoid whole eggs then if your trying to lower cholesterol? Butter,egg yolks and ice cream, are they lying? They must now something we don't.
 
I don't think you can put ice cream and butter in with eggs. Ice cream and butter are loaded w/ saturated fat and ice cream his a shit load of sugar. Any foods that are high in saturated fat and sugar or processed foods are horrible for you (pizza). Like the above posts say, some cholesterol comes from food, but that's the least of your worries. I guarantee you that if you avoid cholesterol completely in your diet that you can still have a horrible lipid profile despite genetics.
 
ohashi said:
There is some correlation between dietary and serum cholesterol levels, but unless you have very high cholesterol already, it will not do you any harm, but will bring a lot of good.


exactly.

My Cholesterol got better when I was eating ~5 whole eggs a day (and discontinued AAS). I think its a myth personally.
 
I'm sorry ,it's the American Heart Association not FDA. I avoid these foods when I can and my cholesteral was 126,141, and 171 the last year. It was after fasting for 14 hours. The first reading I was on cholesteral lowering medicine then I heard that is tough on your liver but the next 2 were after I quit the medicine.
 
HGH MAN, are you eating processed foods? Are you on any gear? What is your HDL and LDL? Do you eat alot of high saturated fat foods? High sugar?
 
No, I don't eat alot of high fat or high sugars .Yes,I started Eq, and continuing my HGH and Test Enthanate. No, I don't eat processed foods.Protiens powders,Egg whites ,lean whole meats,chicken,tuna,natural peanut butter and jam and alot of veggies steamed. HDL is 38 and LDL is 96. cholesterol was 154.
 
yomama said:
80% chol your body makes, the rest you get from food. Try eating 10whole eggs a day for 2-3 months, and do this 3 times per year and then see if your cholesterol level will go up. Mine did. Try it and see.


I hate to inform you, but you are wrong.

Your cholesterol went up due to the satuarted fat in eggs, not from the cholesterol.
 
HGH MAN said:
No, I don't eat alot of high fat or high sugars .Yes,I started Eq, and continuing my HGH and Test Enthanate. No, I don't eat processed foods.Protiens powders,Egg whites ,lean whole meats,chicken,tuna,natural peanut butter and jam and alot of veggies steamed. HDL is 38 and LDL is 96. cholesterol was 154.


I don't want this to seem like 20 questions, but there are alot of things I don't know about your lifestyle.

Make sure you are getting enough EFA's and healthy fats. These have a large impact on your lipid profile.

Eat the lowest GI carbohydrates you can find.

Do you smoke?

Does high cholesterol run in your family? And if so, did they live a healthy lifestyle?

You say you take GH. I don't know what kind of doses you are taking and I won't claim the following as fact since I have not used it, but I have read that it can cause insulin resistance, and that would definitely have an impact on cholesterol. But you might want to get more info about that from someone w/ more experience.

Sorry I can't be of more help.
 
All I'll say on this is what I know from medical studies and pharmacy school... high cholesterol is predominantly hereditary, not dietary. I've seen several patients come in with lipid levels in the 600's, and even with diet and exercise they don't drop below 400... it takes heavy medications to even get them down to 250-300. Then there are people like my brother, who drink whole milk, eats butter literally by the stick, and weighs 115lbs with cholesterol of about 130. Sure, eggs are bad IF you already have a problem, but if you aren't predisposed to high cholesterol, eggs in moderation, like almost anything else, are beneficial.
 
It is true that some foods affect cholesterol levels. Now the difference is in the genetics of every person. You can have a big fat ass dude with normal cholesterol levels. And you can have me, athletic, fit, eating well but with high LDL and low HDL.
 
view said:
I hate to inform you, but you are wrong.

Your cholesterol went up due to the satuarted fat in eggs, not from the cholesterol.
What makes my bad cholesterol levels go up?
The main cause of high blood cholesterol is eating too much fat, especially saturated fat. Saturated fats are found in animal products, such as meats, milk and other dairy products that are not fat free, butter, and eggs. Some of these foods are also high in cholesterol. Fried fast foods and snack foods often have a lot of fat.

I guess you were right. Still, my point was, skip the yellow stuff.
 
I read a study a couple years ago about an old man who ate two dozen eggs per day for years. When he had his bloodwork done, his cholesterol levels were just fine. Ask any educated dietician, dietary cholesterol is NOT bad for you.
 
mix and match. I eat a whole egg for every 3 whites.. My cholesterol has always been normal. I am sure that if u downed them in huge amounts it could have some bearing on your cholesterol but in moderation I believe you should be fine.
 
Lowest said:
All I'll say on this is what I know from medical studies and pharmacy school... high cholesterol is predominantly hereditary, not dietary. I've seen several patients come in with lipid levels in the 600's, and even with diet and exercise they don't drop below 400... it takes heavy medications to even get them down to 250-300. Then there are people like my brother, who drink whole milk, eats butter literally by the stick, and weighs 115lbs with cholesterol of about 130. Sure, eggs are bad IF you already have a problem, but if you aren't predisposed to high cholesterol, eggs in moderation, like almost anything else, are beneficial.

I agree and disagree with you. Yes, hyperlipidemia is primarily genetic, however if you take any individual and start adding an excess of ANYTHING it will result in a response from the body. Sometimes the body compensates...sometimes it doesn't...genetics suck.
Now, eating a few egg yolks is not going to kill anyone. However, once again, an excess of anything is generally bad.
In some individuals, AAS actually reduce the blood lipid profile, while in others it raises it. My point is that everyone is different and this is testament, once again, that each and every individual, especially those on AAS, need to see a physician regularly. Pre-cycle, intra-cycle and post-cycle. If you are scared to talk to your Doc about it...find a new doc.

Simple carbs = increased triglycerides
Saturated fats = increased total cholesterol and LDL
Omega3,6,9 = increased HDL (good "cholesterol")

Comments?
 
Lowest said:
All I'll say on this is what I know from medical studies and pharmacy school... high cholesterol is predominantly hereditary, not dietary. I've seen several patients come in with lipid levels in the 600's, and even with diet and exercise they don't drop below 400... it takes heavy medications to even get them down to 250-300. Then there are people like my brother, who drink whole milk, eats butter literally by the stick, and weighs 115lbs with cholesterol of about 130. Sure, eggs are bad IF you already have a problem, but if you aren't predisposed to high cholesterol, eggs in moderation, like almost anything else, are beneficial.

I agree and disagree with you. Yes, hyperlipidemia is primarily genetic, however if you take any individual and start adding an excess of ANYTHING it will result in a response from the body. Sometimes the body compensates...sometimes it doesn't...genetics suck.
Now, eating a few egg yolks is not going to kill anyone. However, once again, an excess of anything is generally bad.
In some individuals, AAS actually reduce the blood lipid profile, while in others it raises it. My point is that everyone is different and this is testament, once again, that each and every individual, especially those on AAS, need to see a physician regularly. Pre-cycle, intra-cycle and post-cycle. If you are scared to talk to your Doc about it...find a new doc.

Simple carbs = increased triglycerides
Saturated fats = increased total cholesterol and LDL
Omega3,6,9, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated = increased HDL (good "cholesterol")

Comments?
 
BigJoshRn said:
I agree and disagree with you. Yes, hyperlipidemia is primarily genetic, however if you take any individual and start adding an excess of ANYTHING it will result in a response from the body. Sometimes the body compensates...sometimes it doesn't...genetics suck.
Now, eating a few egg yolks is not going to kill anyone. However, once again, an excess of anything is generally bad.
In some individuals, AAS actually reduce the blood lipid profile, while in others it raises it. My point is that everyone is different and this is testament, once again, that each and every individual, especially those on AAS, need to see a physician regularly. Pre-cycle, intra-cycle and post-cycle. If you are scared to talk to your Doc about it...find a new doc.

Simple carbs = increased triglycerides
Saturated fats = increased total cholesterol and LDL
Omega3,6,9, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated = increased HDL (good "cholesterol")

Comments?
Ok, 2 table spoons of peanut butter contain 2.5g of saturated fat, and the rest is 10g. The rest is unsaturated and good or what?
 
view said:
I hate to inform you, but you are wrong.

Your cholesterol went up due to the satuarted fat in eggs, not from the cholesterol.
I hate to inform you, but you are wrong.

How diet affects blood cholesterol
Only about 20% of cholesterol comes directly from the diet - the other 80% is produced by the liver. However, a diet high in saturated fats and cholesterol can cause the liver to produce more LDL ("bad") cholesterol.
http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/Mosby_factsheets/cholesterol.html
 
yomama said:
Ok, 2 table spoons of peanut butter contain 2.5g of saturated fat, and the rest is 10g. The rest is unsaturated and good or what?

right...some natural fats are denser than others...unsaturated contributes less to total cholesterol than saturayed.
 
Cholesterol can only be ingested from animal sources such as eggs, meat, dairy products, fish, and shellfish. Plants do not contain cholesterol. It is estimated that half of cholesterol eaten enters the body while the other half passes through. Normally, the more cholesterol we absorb, the less our bodies make (Lehninger’s Biochemistry).
 
GeneticFreak18 said:
i eat 7 whole eggs every moring for 5 of the 7 days a week and i've been doing it for like 3 yrs now...its bullshit
Ok, when was your last bloodwork done, and what were the results of your HDL and LDL, post it please!
 
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