Joint pain, with Deca??

[nsashbl01]

I have had some painful joints recently, and not sure what to attribute it to? I have been on a joint maintenance dose of 300mg/wk of deca for some time. I've been happy and comfortable, but recently my knees and already fucked up shoulder started acting up. The only thing I have changed is from GTP deca to QV. I also added some var which I always to as a mild pre-summer cycle. Anavar has never made me ache. I know the var is not faked Whinny because I am a bit bloated, (var bloats me a tad). If it were Winny, I'de be much drier. I also have used QV var and my own liquid with the same effects. The only thing I can imagine is that either the GTP deca was over dosed, and my body misses it, or maybe the QV is underdosed, which I doubt. All my supps, training, diet, etc has not changed. Any thoughts?? K to ya...

 

[Apexx]

not sure what the problem is, but I doubt the qv is underdosed.

did u change ur workout, or maybe throw on a few more plates??

 

[wetback]

Bro, DEFFINATELY not the Deca. I have serious shoulder probs, bad enough that I am getting surgery in Oct. The ONLY thing that gives me relief is Deca. When I am on the I feel 1000% !!!!!!!!!!

And the Var could still be bunk, maybe it's winny or some other product ???

 

[nsashbl01]

I don't think the QV is under dosed, but maybe the gtp was over dosed? It did hurt way more than the QV. I started the var with qv tabs, then liquid I made. It started before I went to my liquid. I know the tabs are good. So thats not it. I'm gonna test my liquid var for shits and grins. Maybe it's just how my bodys reacting to var now. I've just never had it dry out my joints like this. I'm also taking Purecee, which add's to my bloat a tad, but I figured wtf. It may help the var. Shit, maybe I just taxed my knees. I started to notice it after skipping squats one day and subbing the power squat machine. I kept my form similar to squats but I did go kinda heavy. So maybe I'm over-analyzing this?? This var is hurting my appetite and tireing me a bit. I picked up some B12 tabs and may get some injectable.....

 

[Bruce]

ok what batch number do you have. qv deca 300 is dosed at 328/ml. if you go to their site it says every batch number and exp date along with what it tested at. always above what they list

 

[nsashbl01]

ok what batch number do you have. qv deca 300 is dosed at 328/ml. if you go to their site it says every batch number and exp date along with what it tested at. always above what they list

I'll check it out. Thanks bro....

 

[nsashbl01]

I'll check it out. Thanks bro....

Bruce, I was going to check my lot numbers but the site link I have is dead? I am really not worried that it's weak deca. I think the var is just drying me out enough where my old shitty joints are aching. I may switch to a little higher dose and see if that does anything.

 

[wetback]

Bruce, I was going to check my lot numbers but the site link I have is dead? I am really not worried that it's weak deca. I think the var is just drying me out enough where my old shitty joints are aching. I may switch to a little higher dose and see if that does anything.

Is it typical for Var to dry you out ?????
Never did Var and never heard of that happening.

 

[nsashbl01]

Is it typical for Var to dry you out ?????
Never did Var and never heard of that happening.

It never had that effect on me. I am on low dose Accutane, so maybe that has an effect??

 

[wetback]

It never had that effect on me. I am on low dose Accutane, so maybe that has an effect??

I did accutane..heavy doses for 3 months....no pain.

Maybe your getting old ?????? LOL

 

[nsashbl01]

Old, yep! 36 in 2 weeks! Been over ten years since my first joint surgery. 3 since. Yea, I think I started paying my dues early on. Var never hurt me, this pisses me off. Think I'll just up the deca for a bit.... I am up about 5 lbs. not as lean as I was though.

 

[wetback]

Old, yep! 36 in 2 weeks! Been over ten years since my first joint surgery. 3 since. Yea, I think I started paying my dues early on. Var never hurt me, this pisses me off. Think I'll just up the deca for a bit.... I am up about 5 lbs. not as lean as I was though.

Don't feel bad I am 37 in 2 months.
The Deca always helped me out with the joints, best of luck and keep me updated.

 

[ricorico]

are u taking triflex?? or any supp with glucosamine and chrondroitin??....bc if your taking that and deca and still have pain....then that wwould be shitty...but triflex cures all my joint pains

 

[nsashbl01]

Update on my deal. Got var tested, it's real but a tad weaker than I thought. Seems my powder wasn't so pure! Upped deca 100mg/wk to a total of 400mg/wk. If I still have issues in another week, I'm going to drop my var and see what happens.

Bruce, QV's sight has been down so I can't check lot numbers....

 

[azul]

It never had that effect on me. I am on low dose Accutane, so maybe that has an effect??

Could definitely be the accutane. One of its side-effects is joint pain.

 

[nsashbl01]

Could definitely be the accutane. One of its side-effects is joint pain.

Yea, I hardly take it, and have been on a much higher dose. I have been on accutane for like 6 months. This is somthing recent. Thanks for your input though...

 

[nsashbl01]

This may shed some light on my issue. http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=168832&page=1&pp=40

Also started getting a knot under my nip, which happens if I go over 100mg/wk on Tese. So maybe my Deca is fake? Would shed light on my water gain, aches, etc. Gonna up my adex and take a little nolva for now...

 

[gottis]

I don't think the QV is under dosed, but maybe the gtp was over dosed? It did hurt way more than the QV. I started the var with qv tabs, then liquid I made. It started before I went to my liquid. I know the tabs are good. So thats not it. I'm gonna test my liquid var for shits and grins. Maybe it's just how my bodys reacting to var now. I've just never had it dry out my joints like this. I'm also taking Purecee, which add's to my bloat a tad, but I figured wtf. It may help the var. Shit, maybe I just taxed my knees. I started to notice it after skipping squats one day and subbing the power squat machine. I kept my form similar to squats but I did go kinda heavy. So maybe I'm over-analyzing this?? This var is hurting my appetite and tireing me a bit. I picked up some B12 tabs and may get some injectable.....

bro,, sorry to disapoint the qv people .. but they have a scandal goin on i myself got off a primo cycle and gain like 14 pds so i diceded to brige it with deca only for a few weeks then i was gona finish with test and do pct ,, and i have a legit botle of qv the qvd3 026 exp 10 2007 hte box seal got it from rep sorce in florida ..and i been on 5 weeks now and lost 4 pound ,can only mean ,, the deca is way undersosage maybe 40 mg a pop not 300 or that is just plain fake..my shouder hurt my elbows are killing me and i have no strenght what so ever,, im so pist at this that im gona send the rest to a lab to get it teste just to see what these f mexicans are putting in there...i will never ever buy a qv product ,, and i got news most of us stack so u are gona benefict if u have several qv products u might make some ,, gains .. i dont think there all fake,but i think there underdosage how ever and some are just plain blunt..my 2 cents//

 

[Bruce]

maybe if you just bought it, my qv 300 was incredible. i haven't gotten qv in over a year. but i ran it along with a vial of wotan deca 300, it tests at like 400 i think, but the qv was 328/ml. and my winny from them was money. like i said though yours could be fake or new stuff that isn't good.

 

[nsashbl01]

bro,, sorry to disapoint the qv people .. but they have a scandal goin on i myself got off a primo cycle and gain like 14 pds so i diceded to brige it with deca only for a few weeks then i was gona finish with test and do pct ,, and i have a legit botle of qv the qvd3 026 exp 10 2007 hte box seal got it from rep sorce in florida ..and i been on 5 weeks now and lost 4 pound ,can only mean ,, the deca is way undersosage maybe 40 mg a pop not 300 or that is just plain fake..my shouder hurt my elbows are killing me and i have no strenght what so ever,, im so pist at this that im gona send the rest to a lab to get it teste just to see what these f mexicans are putting in there...i will never ever buy a qv product ,, and i got news most of us stack so u are gona benefict if u have several qv products u might make some ,, gains .. i dont think there all fake,but i think there underdosage how ever and some are just plain blunt..my 2 cents//

I'm aware of the rumer bro. As far as it being legit, who knows. My source is good also and I have seen a good 50 bottles through friends this Summer of QV gear. Not one complaint. I have been on QV Deca, Enan and EQ. I have had a fucked up knee and shoulder since June, which started when I was using some var that I tested and know was real? So recently I had a few labs drawn on myself and my test is real for sure. My bio avail test was several times the max range. The EQ was leaning me out but the test bloat started and I can't tell now. I also know 2 people using QV tabs from the same source and have had great results. So if there are QV issues, I'm not seeing them so far. I can say GTP Deca seemed stronger, but it hurt me.

Keep us posted on your lab results....

 

[The Terminator]

bro,, sorry to disapoint the qv people .. but they have a scandal goin on i myself got off a primo cycle and gain like 14 pds so i diceded to brige it with deca only for a few weeks then i was gona finish with test and do pct ,, and i have a legit botle of qv the qvd3 026 exp 10 2007 hte box seal got it from rep sorce in florida ..and i been on 5 weeks now and lost 4 pound ,can only mean ,, the deca is way undersosage maybe 40 mg a pop not 300 or that is just plain fake..my shouder hurt my elbows are killing me and i have no strenght what so ever,, im so pist at this that im gona send the rest to a lab to get it teste just to see what these f mexicans are putting in there...i will never ever buy a qv product ,, and i got news most of us stack so u are gona benefict if u have several qv products u might make some ,, gains .. i dont think there all fake,but i think there underdosage how ever and some are just plain blunt..my 2 cents//

Gimme a break

You are so full of it
Just like those BS posts of yours on steroid.com that I saw today....

Let me guess? You are tied in with a certain competitive line arent you?
If you want to spread BS rumors then back them up with a lab test stating the validity of the things you 'claim'